# Limbaugh's Bid to Buy the St. Louis Rams **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 9, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223 "2009-10-09T18:48:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/161 "2009-10-15T20:10:18Z")
9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/162 "2009-10-15T20:12:36Z")
In the world according to Rush Limpballs everything is Obama’s fault. If it rains tommorow it’s Obama’s fault. Rantings of a loon. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/163 "2009-10-15T20:47:29Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Rush is somehow [blaming Obama](http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BBLJ680&show_article=1) for him getting dumped from the Rams bid: > > Can someone explain to me how the hell _those_ dots are connected? i can completely explain it. Rush is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/164 "2009-10-15T21:03:41Z")
What got established early in this thread? That Rush Limbaugh doesn’t really know jack about football. Generally someone who wants (and has the money) to own a professional team YOU’D THINK would be enough of a fanatic of the sport to know everything about it. So what’s up with Rush? Consider this: Rush Limbaugh is a radio performer. Several times a year he’ll do something or say something to get buzz. It’ll make national news and maybe get covered by CNN and MSNBC. Maybe it’ll even show up debated on message boards. Creating buzz is his job. He draws attention to himself. People might tune in to hear him crow or complain about watever trash he created. He has something to talk about for several weeks. I wonder if he was really serious about owning a piece of a football team. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/165 "2009-10-15T21:31:52Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Can someone explain to me how the hell _those_ dots are connected? It’s the exact same crap he was spewing about how, in Obama’s America, white kids get beat up with black kids cheering. It’s part and parcel to the new victimization of whites (and conservatives) that they’re plying to those who are not so intelligent in their audience. In Obama’s America, Rush won’t be allowed to own a team because he’s a white conservative. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/166 "2009-10-15T21:44:06Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Rush is somehow [blaming Obama](http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BBLJ680&show_article=1) for him getting dumped from the Rams bid: > > Can someone explain to me how the hell _those_ dots are connected? Not hard to imagine. Sharpton and Jackson support/ed Obama. Sharpton and Jackson attacked Rush and stopped him. Therefore Obama is responsible. :rolleyes: It does not matter if it is shitty logic. It is still logic to to guys like Rush. What that Oxycontin impaired brain still takes into account is that the NFL is still a private enterprise, so instead of blaming the ass-holism of the owners it is better to blame Obama and the unions. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/167 "2009-10-15T22:30:19Z")
> [@Doug\_Bowe](#): > > I wonder if he was really serious about owning a piece of a football team. I think so. He approached ESPN about appearing on Sunday NFL Countdown, not the other way around- and knowing nothing about football has never been a bar to NFL ownership. Just ask Jerry Jones. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/168 "2009-10-15T23:45:05Z")
This is the end of the left. This shit is getting really obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/169 "2009-10-15T23:50:22Z")
Thanks for your enlightening contribution, **Scylla**. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/170 "2009-10-15T23:57:17Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > However, I’m fairly certain that the Rams would find it difficult (or even more difficult, I should say) to field a competitive team given that few free agent players would want to play for a Rush-owned franchise. > > It’d be Jared Allen, Brett Favre, Daunte Culpepper and a bunch of big white stiffs. This I don’t agree with. As I said, most football players are Republicans (although largely in name only, as they typically aren’t that politically inclined, but like the idea of tax cuts). More importantly, though, making an NFL roster is hard work, hardly guaranteed, and a lifelong dream. I doubt the team would not be able to sign Black players (although I will concede that a big name player could manage to make a fuss). Rush, IMO, is not a racist, per se. But race baiter is quite apt. He talks about race a lot, because a lot of his audience is racist. He’s good at getting them riled up. And that, for him, encourages a loyal following. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/171 "2009-10-16T00:28:45Z")
That’s not true. NFL teams and their employees donate vastly more money to Republicans than Democrats (although interestingly, the [NFL itself donates more to Democrats](http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/09/politicians-score-significant.html)) but most NFL players are black, and most black people are Democratic voters. It’s not clear exactly what the split is, but I still have yet to hear of an active black player (other than Culpepper) shilling for Republicans, while I’ve heard of dozens of active players endorsing or campaigning for Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/172 "2009-10-16T01:00:22Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I see the sarcasm in the writing pretty well. I just do not think his sarcasm is trying to mock the race angle. > > Again I ask you to parse it for me. You need not do every line, just point out a few relevant bits (or whatever you see fit) that make your point for you. There is no need to parse. I can tell you the entire first part (before Kanye West) is Rush being a smart ass. He is obviously referencing a Newsweek cover and the idea of a post-racial America under Obama. He uses quite a bit of humor in his show and, unless you can hear it, it can be made to look as though he is being serious. Nonetheless, if Rush were racist I doubt he would have Armstrong Williams or Dr. Walter Williams guest host for him. Not to mention, I doubt these guys would be willing to host for a racist. ---
**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/173 "2009-10-16T01:12:17Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Of course I do. I halfway defined it in my response. You assume something you are attempting to prove. > [@Marley23](#): > > I did not assume he is a racist. I concluded that his comment was race baiting based on the words he use and the point he tried to make. And if a black person had made that statement? Would it then be racist? Hows about if a black liberal (Juan Williams) defended Rush and claims this is a witch-hunt? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/174 "2009-10-16T01:34:37Z")
> [@yorick73](#): > > Come off it. Why don’t you bother to read what I was responding to before taking my words out of context. Actually, I’ve read pretty much every post in this thread. Sorry if I happen to find the arguments of, say **Marley23** and **Whack-a-Mole** more convincing than yours. Perhaps if you keep going, maybe I’ll find something you’ve said that I agree with. Maybe not. Meanwhile, regarding the main subject of this teapot tempest, if Mr. Limbaugh wishes to blow a few of his millions on part-ownership of an NFL team, then he is welcome to do so. I wouldn’t even necessarily root against St. Louis on that basis. On the other hand, since I happen to think that Mr. Limbaugh is a raging asshole and a cancer upon our fair nation, I find I’m not all busted up that his partners-to-be decided to uninvite him to the party. There, I’m pretty sure that at least part of the foregoing agrees with **yorick** ’s sentiments. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/175 "2009-10-16T02:09:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > That’s not true. NFL teams and their employees donate vastly more money to Republicans than Democrats (although interestingly, the [NFL itself donates more to Democrats](http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/09/politicians-score-significant.html)) but most NFL players are black, and most black people are Democratic voters. > > It’s not clear exactly what the split is, but I still have yet to hear of an active black player (other than Culpepper) shilling for Republicans, while I’ve heard of dozens of active players endorsing or campaigning for Democrats. Ex NBA player Charles Barkley (a black as you probably know) once famously said that he voted Republican because he “had more scratch than most of the brothers.” Limbaugh really is in a win/win situation here. Either he gets a piece of the team (which didn’t happen) or he gets tons of free material to rant about on his show, how he as a wealthy white upper class male high achiever is discriminated against here in Obama land. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/176 "2009-10-16T03:07:34Z")
I don’t see how owning a piece of the Rams could ever be considered a _good_ thing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/177 "2009-10-16T03:50:02Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > Limbaugh really is in a win/win situation here. Either he gets a piece of the team (which didn’t happen) or he gets tons of free material to rant about on his show, how he as a wealthy white upper class male high achiever is discriminated against here in Obama land. This is actually quite clever and likely could be the way it was planned all along. For all intents and purposes, Limbaugh was a minority, non-voting partner. He probably could have kept his involvement fairly quiet but he chose not to. Why was that? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/178 "2009-10-16T03:53:08Z")
He’s a fucking blabbermouth and couldn’t keep his own affair quiet if he was having one? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/179 "2009-10-16T10:54:54Z")
Side note: There’s nothing liberal about Juan Williams. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaughs-bid-to-buy-the-st-louis-rams/513223/180 "2009-10-16T11:04:54Z")
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