# Lincoln screenwriter gets called out; getts butthurt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984 "2013-02-11T16:10:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/61 "2013-02-18T22:15:38Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > I’m proud of the fact that my home state of West Virginia, a slave holding state, had two Senators that voted in favor of the 13th amendment. WV was accepted into the Union only \*after \*it put a gradual-abolition clause in its new constitution. > [@](#): > > It would be an insult to portray them (as the film did CT’s Senators) as voting against it for some unknown reason, and certainly no plot-advancing or cinematic reason. The film showed the \*House \*vote, and the second one at that. The Senate, dominated by Northern Republicans after the Southerners resigned as their states seceded, had already passed it. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/62 "2013-02-18T23:26:40Z")
The only thing more insipid than the term “butthurt” is middle-aged men using it in a desperate struggle to sound “cool” that only ends up emulating the biggest losers on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/63 "2013-02-19T00:10:23Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > The only thing more insipid than the term “butthurt” is middle-aged men using it in a desperate struggle to sound “cool” that only ends up emulating the biggest losers on the Internet. Little tip: every time the word “insipid” is used on this board, most people think of you. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/64 "2013-02-19T00:12:34Z")
No, Comic Book Guy has a point. I just wish he’d used more sneer quotes to really “drive it home.” ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/65 "2013-02-19T02:45:59Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > WV was accepted into the Union only \*after \*it put a gradual-abolition clause in its new constitution. True, but it’s vote on the 13th amendment made the gradual more immediate. But, as I said, slavery in western VA was next to nothing. It would almost be like getting Maine to outlaw Orange trees. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/66 "2013-02-19T07:40:04Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > No, WV broke away from VA because we were loyal to the Union. (At least the group of people who gathered in Wheeling and were recognized by the US Government were loyal to the Union). > > Slavery was legal in the western counties and in WV until the Thirteenth Amendment passed. It wasn’t very popular because there weren’t large plantations that made slavery beneficial. Thanks! I knew the different regions had different cultures. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/67 "2013-02-20T17:19:50Z")
Wait, no one in Connecticut raised a stink about this before the congressman did? If the movie depicted Texas voting for the 13th amendment, we’d have burned down the State Capitol by now. …in Connecticut. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/68 "2013-02-20T17:41:01Z")
I wonder if this’ll become some kind of cultural thing? Like “everyone knows” Connecticut was pro-slavery in the Civil War (despite the fact that it makes little sense because of its geographic location) because a movie said so, only people will forget it’s from a movie and assume it’s historical fact? If so, I can understand the congressman’s ire. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/69 "2013-02-21T07:55:54Z")
Left on the cutting-room floor was the Housatonic’s crewmen grabbing the Enigma machine from the Hunley before sinking it with cannon fire. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/70 "2013-02-21T10:35:24Z")
> [@bup](#): > > The Connecticut vote wasn’t for the purpose of drama, it was just a random change, and probably unintentional. Well it was for dramataic reasons and was based on a mistake with regard to the order of voting. However they knew that it was wrong before the movie was shot and persisted with the error even though: > [@](#): > > Spielberg’s production people called the National Archives in 2011 to get a copy of the original voting roll and to plumb deeply into the details of the vote on one of America’s most searing moral battles, even asking whether the vote was recorded in a bound volume or on loose ledger forms. That roll shows that the first two votes cast were “Nays” by Democratic congressmen from Illinois, Lincoln’s own state. Wasn’t that enough to show the tension? from [The Oscar for Best Fabrication](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/opinion/sunday/dowd-the-oscar-for-best-fabrication.html?_r=1&) in the New York Times. ---
**Author:** ![hiebram](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5fc32e/32.png) [@hiebram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hiebram)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984/71 "2013-02-24T20:34:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! …in Connecticut! It really does…eh, well…not always. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lincoln-screenwriter-gets-called-out-getts-butthurt/649984.md?page=3)