# Lindsay Lohan goes back to jail

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 24, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918 "2010-09-24T19:01:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/41 "2010-09-25T15:36:53Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> > [@Raguleader](#):
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> > Uhm, wow **Captain Midnight** , really?:dubious:
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> Yeah, really? 9.99 would work better in that rhyme scheme.

_snerk_ 😃

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/42 "2010-09-25T15:39:13Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I’ll miss her young, naked body on the screen.

Don’tchamean her body double’s young, naked body? Or so I’ve been told.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/43 "2010-09-25T18:08:53Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> > I’ll miss her young, naked body on the screen.
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> Don’tchamean her body double’s young, naked body? Or so I’ve been told.

She has never been shy about nude photos, but I suspect a body double as she was not as skinny as her normal beach photos show. But a boy can fap, can’t he?

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/44 "2010-09-25T22:16:32Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> Can anyone provide a cite that will prove the legal proceedings surrounding Lindsay Lohan have been significantly different to what would happen were she just a “normal person”?

Are you fucking kidding me?

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/45 "2010-09-25T22:19:37Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> > [@multimediac17](#):
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> > Can anyone provide a cite that will prove the legal proceedings surrounding Lindsay Lohan have been significantly different to what would happen were she just a “normal person”?
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> Are you fucking kidding me?

[Great song!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZDvcbfifbU&feature=related)

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/46 "2010-09-25T23:08:47Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> > [@multimediac17](#):
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> > Can anyone provide a cite that will prove the legal proceedings surrounding Lindsay Lohan have been significantly different to what would happen were she just a “normal person”?
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> Are you fucking kidding me?

It’s not that dumb a question. Jail overcrowding is a serious issue in L.A., so nonviolent offenders are generally let out of jail after serving a small fraction of their sentence.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/47 "2010-09-26T00:00:44Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> > [@multimediac17](#):
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> > Can anyone provide a cite that will prove the legal proceedings surrounding Lindsay Lohan have been significantly different to what would happen were she just a “normal person”?
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> Are you fucking kidding me?

Provide a cite then, smart guy.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/48 "2010-09-26T00:07:21Z")

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I knew someone would be a jerk about it but it’s not outside the realm of possibility that someone unfamiliar with California law would like to see some facts rather than endless rants about how “you can get away with anything if you’re rich and famous!”

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/49 "2010-09-26T00:14:25Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> > [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> > Are you fucking kidding me?
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> [Great song!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZDvcbfifbU&feature=related)

**gaffa** , you made this thread worth reading.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/50 "2010-09-26T00:16:36Z")

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Sometimes an addict is also an asshole. In fact, it’s not at all uncommon for people compeltely without conscience to become physically addicted to drugs. For the psychopath, being high is that’s the closest they come to feeling joy, and ectasy often gives them their first clue of what bonding feels like.

To the extent we can judge from the news we receive of her life, Lohan was an asshole long before she was an addict.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/51 "2010-09-26T01:13:24Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> > [@gaffa](#):
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> > [Great song!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZDvcbfifbU&feature=related)
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> **gaffa** , you made this thread worth reading.

It’s almost worth subscribing to get a sig line so I could use this!

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/52 "2010-09-26T02:21:09Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> Lindsay Lohan going to jail again isn’t going to make her safer, surely isn’t going to make anyone else safer, and the schaudenfreude is rather appalling.

Two errors.

1. It’s spelled “schadenfreude”.

2. “Schadenfreude” means malicious happiness, happiness at someone’s misfortune. I don’t see anybody happy about this. Dismissive, sure, and IMHO rightly so.

She has enough money to buy as much rehab and psychiatry as she needs. Yes, it really is that simple. If she chooses not to do that, that’s unfortunate. But there’s no reason for me to waste any more than a trivial amount of sympathy on her.

> [@](#):
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> May I remind everyone that Lindsay Lohan has spent more time in jail for, essentially, weaving during a lane change, than Dick Cheney has spent for creating a war out of whole cloth that has thus far killed several hundred thousand people. Something about that demonstrates everything that’s wrong about this nation.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/53 "2010-09-26T02:26:30Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> Cocaine and amphetamines are not pot or alcohol, and tend to get one jail time unless you are a celebrity.

Do they?

> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> Lindsay Lohan going to jail again isn’t going to make her safer, surely isn’t going to make anyone else safer, and the schaudenfreude is rather appalling.

The schaudenfreude is unpleasant, but I’m not sure you’re right about jail time not helping. I’m not saying it’s the best way to help her, but forcing treatment on her doesn’t seem to be working. Significant jail time (say, a year) might just be a wake up call.

> [@multimediac17](#):
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> Can anyone provide a cite that will prove the legal proceedings surrounding Lindsay Lohan have been significantly different to what would happen were she just a “normal person”?

> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> Are you fucking kidding me?

I’m wondering the same thing. And, no, I’m not kidding. How many people do you know that have done the same thing the she has done and received tougher sentences?

I’ve heard that she’s getting harder treatment. I think. I know the knee jerk reaction is to assume celebrities get special treatment, but is this really the case?

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/54 "2010-09-27T22:05:21Z")

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On “The Soup” on Friday, Joel rattled off her twitter posts from last weekend, and from memory went something like:

“It’s true, I failed another drug test”  
“I take responsibility for my actions”  
“Substance abuse is a disease and I’m working really hard”  
“I am taking positive steps”  
“Happy birthday to the best mom ever!”

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/55 "2010-09-27T22:25:03Z")

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> [@xizor](#):
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> On “The Soup” on Friday, Joel rattled off her twitter posts from last weekend, and from memory went something like:
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> “It’s true, I failed another drug test”  
> “I take responsibility for my actions”  
> “Substance abuse is a disease and I’m working really hard”  
> “I am taking positive steps”  
> “Happy birthday to the best mom ever!”
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> :dubious:

Which part gets the eyebrow raise, taking responsibility for her actions, admitting she has a problem, or wishing her mother a happy birthday?:dubious:

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/56 "2010-09-27T22:32:43Z")

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> [@xizor](#):
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> On “The Soup” on Friday, Joel rattled off her twitter posts from last weekend, and from memory went something like:
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> “It’s true, I failed another drug test”  
> “I take responsibility for my actions”  
> “Substance abuse is a disease and I’m working really hard”  
> “I am taking positive steps”  
> “Happy birthday to the best mom ever!”
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> :dubious:

No reason to get all dubious over there, you can look at [her Twitter yourself](http://twitter.com/lindsaylohan):

> [@](#):
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> Happy birthday to the best mom ever!! @DinaMLohan I love you!! X  
> 12:58 PM Sep 15th via ÜberTwitter

Notice that’s September 15th. Two days later, when there were reports of a failed drug test, she posted:

> [@](#):
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> Regrettably, I did in fact fail my most recent drug test and if I am asked, I am prepared to appear before judge Fox next week as a result.  
> Substance abuse is a disease, which unfortunately doesn’t go away over night. I am working hard to overcome it and am taking positive steps
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> forward every day. I am testing every single day and doing what I must do to prevent any mishaps in the future.
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> This was certainly a setback for me but I am taking responsibility for my actions and I’m prepared to face the consequences.  
> I am so thankful for the support of my fans, loved ones and immediate family, who understand that i am trying hard,  
> but also that I am a work in progress, just as anyone else. I am keeping my faith, and I am hopeful…Thank you all!!!  
> 9:49 PM Sep 17th via web

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/57 "2010-10-03T00:37:24Z")

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> [@Terraplane](#):
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> She’s 24 years old and she’s been having substance abuse problems since she was a teen. Her dad is some kinda fucked up weirdo and her mom likes to use her as leverage for her own goals. The girl has an addiction compounded by legitimate issues and none of you would give her shit for it if she were just some random poster on the Dope.
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> I know she was a cute teen actress with a promising career that she managed to completely ruin and I know she probably has more money than everybody in this thread put together and schadenfreude can be a lot of fun in that circumstance but goddamn, she’s basically still just a kid and maybe you could show just a tiny bit of sympathy?

1. She’s not a kid, she’s an adult, and has been for at least 6 years, according to most legal definitions.
2. She’s a danger to innocent adults and children, driving intoxicated. She has been treated 50 times better than she deserves, so she is getting more sympathy than I would get.
3. What do you mean, show her some sympathy? When did she show sympathy for me? If one of her fellow drunk drivers kills me tomorrow, what will she do? She won’t show any sympathy.
4. She is a popular woman, who is playing the fool. She made her bed, and you are crabbing as though WE are the dangerous felons, not her.

Best wishes,  
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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/58 "2010-10-03T18:36:08Z")

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> She has enough money to buy as much rehab and psychiatry as she needs. Yes, it really is that simple. If she chooses not to do that, that’s unfortunate. But there’s no reason for me to waste any more than a trivial amount of sympathy on her.

She may not. She had a few successful movies in which she was paid really well, but hasn’t had any significant role in years. In the meantime, she is expensive - her clothes, travel, and habits are not cheap. And where when she was a “star” a lot of things came free - people would pick up her tab to get her into their bar or give her clothes so she could be photographed wearing them - she’s become more of a liability and the freebies are drying up. She treats herself as a “star” with a personal assistant. She’s also had significant legal fees. There have been several gossip sites in the past year or so that say she’s functionally broke and basically living off her name right now. And the value of her name is going down fast - with the exception of pictures you buy off the paparazzi and which she doesn’t get a piece of.

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/59 "2010-10-03T22:47:32Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> I have a different take than the rest of you.
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> I don’t care who Lindsay Lohan is, but the image of a citizen being hauled away in handcuffs because she chose to put a certain drug in her own body is truly disgusting, and a violation of a human’s right to self-determination. She wasn’t hurting anyone but herself. If she wants to kill herself with drugs, that’s her business. Lock her up if she’s caught driving under the influence, but otherwise leave her and every other drug user alone.
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> My hope is that fifty years from now we’ll look back on the drug war the way we look back at prohibition - a puritanical mistake that cost millions of citizens their freedom and helped build a global criminal trade that has destabilized countries and led to misery and death for millions of people. It will be one of the shames of our age.

Very well said.

Instead of a counselor giving her help (not that she’d take it) we have a judge dictating a sentence… for what?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-goes-back-to-jail/554918/60 "2010-10-03T23:25:42Z")

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For endangering other people’s lives by driving drunk.

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