# Lindsay Lohan - HIRE A DRIVER ALREADY!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955 "2007-07-24T14:06:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/21 "2007-07-24T16:15:27Z")
Is it too late to change my vote for “Famous mainstream actresses who will be doing hard-core porn within 5 years?” thread? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/22 "2007-07-24T16:35:02Z")
[QUOTE=Nutty Bunny] Lindsay Lohan - HIRE A DRIVER ALREADY!! [/QUOTE] I remember in the MTV series The Osbournes that Jack Osbourne (Ozzy’s teenage son) never drove himself anywhere but instead was driven by someone on Ozzy’s staff. The explanation at the time was that the insurance cost was too high to let Jack drive a car. So I would think that stars like Lindsay Lohan would simply take a limo or Town Car wherever they wanted to go. No chance of a DUI charge, and they get driven safely and securely by a sober, rested driver. Hell, if I were rich enough, I’d probably just use a car service all the time, just to avoid the hassle. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/23 "2007-07-24T16:42:21Z")
[QUOTE=Dewey Finn] …and they get driven safely and securely by a **sober, rested** driver. [/QUOTE] And we remember how well that worked for Princess Di. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Flea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d78d45/32.png) [@Flea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flea)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/24 "2007-07-24T16:43:09Z")
I’m not sad because of her _specifically_, it’s just the pointlessness of it all. The whole “wah I’m going to drink myself into jail because no one understands me” is so useless. There are people much worse off than her that do so much better. It just comes back to something being elementally flawed in her that she can’t or won’t master. I imagine I’m looking at her like a mother more than anything else. When a child’s a baby, you never imagine that it will come to this one day. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/25 "2007-07-24T16:46:19Z")
I think the saddest part is that she really had so much potential before she blew it by being a drugged up, crotch flashing, car smashing whore. _Mean Girls_ really was a great movie and she was not only beautiful in it, but also was a fantastic lead. But alas, she’s screwed all that up. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/26 "2007-07-24T16:48:21Z")
[QUOTE=Nutty Bunny] I know how that is. Everyone has a different “rock bottom” and with her lifestyle, her bottom might be lower than mine was. [/QUOTE] I’ve mentioned this before. I spent family week with my sister in rehab. She went to one of those rehab centers where movie stars hang out. There was a Fortune 100 CEO, a billionaire, a supermodel and a guy wearing a superbowl ring while I was there (and no, I won’t say who). Someone who shows up on the cover of Star had left the week before. Its darn hard to hit bottom when you are sitting across the table from a supermodel and the billionaire mentions that you can all come hang out with him, clean or not, if you parents kick you out. I’d imagine for Lohan, who is NOT going to end up on the street (and is unlikely to be doing hardcore porn unless its by choice) its even harder. For most of us, serious addiction means losing our jobs, our homes, our families and our friends (at least the ones that don’t drink with us). For Lohan, that bottom is a huge - and unlikely - drop. Have their been any stars since the 1950s that have been allowed to burn out in a spectaluar fashion? - we let them kill themselves, but they don’t end up like Barbara Payton anymore. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/27 "2007-07-24T16:50:07Z")
I suspect she’ll kill someone before too long. And then go on Barbara Walters and cry about how hard it was for her. I can’t believe what she’s become…she was genuinely good in both _Mean Girls_ and the remake of _Freaky Friday_ and she looked amazing too. Wasn’t that yesterday or something? How do these kids go to this stuff so fast? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Hildo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@Johnny\_Hildo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Hildo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/28 "2007-07-24T16:55:42Z")
[QUOTE=Dangerosa] For most of us, serious addiction means losing our jobs, our homes, our families and our friends (at least the ones that don’t drink with us). For Lohan, that bottom is a huge - and unlikely - drop. Have their been any stars since the 1950s that have been allowed to burn out in a spectaluar fashion? - we let them kill themselves, but they don’t end up like Barbara Payton anymore. [/QUOTE] Jan-Michael Vincent would beg to disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/29 "2007-07-24T16:57:12Z")
[QUOTE=DiosaBellissima] I think the saddest part is that she really had so much potential before she blew it by being a drugged up, crotch flashing, car smashing whore. _Mean Girls_ really was a great movie and she was not only beautiful in it, but also was a fantastic lead. But alas, she’s screwed all that up. [/QUOTE] Agreed. I’ve always been disappointed in Lohan, simply because she had such _potential_. She seemed to have good luck getting the good roles, and she was pretty damned good in them- _Mean Girls_ is at the top of the list (I even liked _Herbie_, but if you tell anyone I’ll deny it to my grave). I also liked her because, unlike most of the Hollywood starlets, she had _curves_, and they looked damn good on her. Now, of course, she’s turned into a total skank- skinny as a rail, and coked up to boot. It’s just sad. I keep hoping she’ll turn her life around, but I think it’s just a matter of time 'til she’s starring in porn, or her own obituary, or both. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/30 "2007-07-24T17:04:17Z")
> [@Nutty Bunny](#): > > Does the “3 strikes” law apply to felony arrests or is for jail terms? The first two strikes are felonies, but the third strike is any criminal conviction at all IIRC. Jail terms don’t have anything to do with it. FWIW, cocaine shouldn’t have any adverse affects on driving _by itself_ except for maybe making the driver a little nervous; but one of the most dangerous things about coke is that you can’t tell how drunk you are. It doesn’t keep you from getting drunk, it just makes you _feel_ more alert than you really are if you’ve been drinking. Harm-reduction advocates sometimes suggest a maximum of one drink per line, and it sounds like Ms. Lohan blew that out of the water. > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Speaking of her sleazy mother, does anyone remember these pictures? You’re looking at an under 21 Lohan, drinking a bottle of Jack with her skank of a mother. Do you often judge people by ill-gotten pictures of what they do in their own home? There are sleazes involved, that’s for damn sure, but I don’t see them in the pictures. > [@Dangerosa](#): > > and a guy wearing a superbowl ring while I was there (and no, I won’t say who) Can you tell us which Super Bowl? I’m curious as to how long during/after this guy’s career he sought treatment. I think it could say a lot about the NFL at that time, and the effects of a brutal physical career and the high life (so to speak) intermingling in one job. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/31 "2007-07-24T17:10:22Z")
Maybe I missed something but I thought this arrest was a delayed filing of charges from her pre-rehab incident. I thought she had her accident, went into “rehab”, and the charges were just being filed now since she has left rehab. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/32 "2007-07-24T17:11:41Z")
[QUOTE=Sunrazor] Um, no, why would it be? I’m skeptical that she’s really a hard-core addict. I think she’s a spoiled, self-indulgent brat who needs, more than anything, to learn some self-discipline. Unfortunately, she’s now 21, which means that the only “time out” she’s going to get is going to come at the expense of California taxpayers. But that’s what she needs, and the sooner it’s adminsitered the better we’re all going to be. [/QUOTE] I don’t know, man. Reports are that Jane Fonda sat her down for a good talking-to during the filming of the movie they shot together. How messed up is your life if it causes Jane Fonda, one of the ultimate '60s Party Girls, to do a double-take? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/33 "2007-07-24T17:13:38Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] Do you often judge people by ill-gotten pictures of what they do in their own home? There are sleazes involved, that’s for damn sure, but I don’t see them in the pictures. [/QUOTE] She was underaged, sitting on a bed with a huge bottle of Jack next to her, and condoms on the stand near her all with her mother right there. Now, maybe we shouldn’t be passing judgment on her but on her mother, but either way that was a less than wholesome picture. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/34 "2007-07-24T17:14:13Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] How messed up is your life if it causes Jane Fonda, one of the ultimate '60s Party Girls, to do a double-take? [/QUOTE] Sheee-it! If anybody is going to know the pretty trap the high life is it would be a survivor of that scene. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/35 "2007-07-24T17:26:20Z")
[QUOTE=FriarTed] Maybe I missed something but I thought this arrest was a delayed filing of charges from her pre-rehab incident. I thought she had her accident, went into “rehab”, and the charges were just being filed now since she has left rehab. [/QUOTE] Yep- I just read the story- this is a brand-new incident. Whoa boy. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/36 "2007-07-24T17:27:03Z")
[QUOTE=FriarTed] Maybe I missed something but I thought this arrest was a delayed filing of charges from her pre-rehab incident. I thought she had her accident, went into “rehab”, and the charges were just being filed now since she has left rehab. [/QUOTE] No, that was yet another incident, for which she “turned herself in” last week or the week before. This is something that happened last night – when she (apparently) followed and confronted the mother of an assistant she’d just fired. [Here’s](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070724/ap_en_ot/people_lindsay_lohan_arrest) a somewhat more detailed version of the info provided in the OP’s link. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/37 "2007-07-24T17:28:57Z")
BTW, what’s with everyone calling her and her mother a “whore” and “skank”? Does anyone here know or even think that she sells her body? Would a male star in similar trouble suffer this kind of slander? And please don’t start your answer with “don’t cry for Lindsay, she deserves to suffer my wrath because she has more money with me”. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/38 "2007-07-24T17:32:56Z")
Lohan is known to have banged just about everyone in Hollywood. I would say the same exact thing about any male that exhibited the same behavior- I skank is a skank. Further, the newest gossip thing (which I fully admit may not be true) is that Lohan bet her friends that she can bed (married) David Beckham by December while his wife is on tour with the Spice Girls. Further, skanky can just mean trashy, not necessarily slutty. Being so smashed out of your mind and being dragged out of a club by your friends at 3 in the morning is pretty damned skanky. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/39 "2007-07-24T17:43:27Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] Would a male star in similar trouble suffer this kind of slander? [/QUOTE] The only male equivalent I can think of offhand would be Tom Sizemore, and if “skank” wasn’t a decidedly female term, I’d call him one as well. ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955/40 "2007-07-24T17:55:05Z")
[QUOTE=scotandrsn] I don’t know what everyone’s so sad about… We have ourselves the next Robert Downey, Jr.! And this one’s HOT! [/QUOTE] My brother is a film PA, and has worked with both Lohan (Chapter 27) and Downey (Guide To Recognizing Your Saints), and he had plenty of stories to tell about both of them. First of all, he had the worst job in the world - driving Lohan between her hotel and the shooting locations. Carrying this position also made him NYC’s #2 paparazzi target, since they knew that by following him, he would lead them to Lohan. Since he absolutely refused to take the burden of dragging her ass out of bed, he would park in front of the hotel and call her cell and say “your ride is here,” which was typically ignored. One time he was scheduled to pick her up at 6AM and saw her walking INTO the hotel, obviously intoxicated from being out all night. At this point, the film’s director decided to get all of her scenes finished the same day, and planned out a special Lohan day, for the day when they would be able to get her sober and awake. Why on earth anybody would WANT her to be in their movie, especially a low budget indie which won’t make money no matter what, is beyond me. As for Downey, he was on perfect behavior, and that was because he had a personal assistant whose sole job it was to make sure that Robert stayed sober and sane. Lohan seriously needs to get one of these. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-lohan-hire-a-driver-already/412955.md?page=3)