# Lindsay: male or female?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 12, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543 "2012-09-12T21:36:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/1 "2012-09-12T21:36:43Z")

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Just curious: if you saw the given name “Lindsay”, would you expect the person to be male or female? Said person is middle-aged and British, if that makes a difference.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/2 "2012-09-12T21:42:23Z")

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I immediately think of Lindsay Wagner (because I’m old), so I think ‘female’.

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/3 "2012-09-12T21:44:25Z")

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Middle Aged British, I might say male. But off the top of my head, “Lindsay Graham” is the only male Lindsay I can think of.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/4 "2012-09-12T21:44:35Z")

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I thought Lindsay was originally female and Lindsey was originally male, although I can’t seem to find a cite. Several websites say that _now_ either name can be used for a boy or a girl, indicating that there was a distinction in the past.

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**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/5 "2012-09-12T21:47:06Z")

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I’m aware that the name was originally male, but all the Lindsays I’ve met have been women.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/6 "2012-09-12T21:47:58Z")

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Shit, I clicked too fast. Just Lindsay with no other information is female. Knowing it’s a middle aged Briton switches it to male in my head for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/7 "2012-09-12T22:38:09Z")

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Lindsay - female

Lindsey - male

in my head at least

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/8 "2012-09-12T22:45:07Z")

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Female.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/9 "2012-09-12T23:28:11Z")

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Male.

At least it was until a certain drug addled redhead actress became identified with the name.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/10 "2012-09-12T23:51:36Z")

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I voted female because I named my daughter Lindsay, but I’ve known men by that name.

Of course, I also have an uncle named Leslie, so maybe my family just has a tenuous grasp on names and gender.

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**Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/11 "2012-09-12T23:53:15Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> I immediately think of Lindsay Wagner (because I’m old), so I think ‘female’.

Guess I’m even older, because I read it as unisex.

I’m sorry, but using last names as first names has always struck me as bizarre. Whether for boys or girls, it makes no difference, it has a weird ring to it either way. I think it must have started as a WASP custom, because nobody had such names in the ethnic environment where I grew up.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/12 "2012-09-13T00:08:25Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Shit, I clicked too fast. Just Lindsay with no other information is female. Knowing it’s a middle aged Briton switches it to male in my head for some reason.

Lindsay Buckingham 🙂

But Lindsay Wagner was my first Lindsay, then Buckingham, so…it still seems a girlish name, but so is Leslie. And Nat is rather masculine, yet that’s MY name, so there ya go.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/13 "2012-09-13T00:16:11Z")

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I would expect any given Lindsey to be female, but not be surprised if they were male. Same with Leslie, Kelly, Shannon, Jamie.

I didn’t know the spelling -ay/-ey indicated gender, that’s interesting.

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/14 "2012-09-13T00:45:52Z")

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The first Lindsay I ever knew was a boy, so I always associated that name with being male.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/15 "2012-09-13T00:57:38Z")

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Probably female but I’d double-check to be sure. The spelling would make it much more likely, but still not definite.

If the person were British and middle-aged then I’d be even more likely to say female, because I’ve known female Lyndsays in that age group but not male.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/16 "2012-09-13T01:11:48Z")

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I just met a girl Lindsay at my school… so perhaps that biases me.

But it definitely sounds female to me.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/17 "2012-09-13T01:17:46Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> Lindsay Buckingham 🙂

Lindsey

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/18 "2012-09-13T01:17:55Z")

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I dated a female Lindsay so female it is.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/19 "2012-09-13T01:41:47Z")

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> [@jabiru](#):
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> The first Lindsay I ever knew was a boy, so I always associated that name with being male.

Similarly, in my first encounter with the name Hillary, that was a male. So it took me a long time (and years later) before Hillary seemed suitable for a female. (Not sure how spelling counted. It might have been Hilary.)

> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> I didn’t know the spelling -ay/-ey indicated gender, that’s interesting.

Likewise, there’s Francis (male) / Frances (female). But these might be pronounced subtly differently too:  
Francis: Fran-siss.  
Frances: Fran-seez.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsay-male-or-female/634543/20 "2012-09-13T01:58:20Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Likewise, there’s Francis (male) / Frances (female). But these might be pronounced subtly differently too:  
> Francis: Fran-siss.  
> Frances: Fran-seez.

The two women I know who are names Frances, pronounce their name exactly like the male spelling.

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