# lindsaybluth, please provide a cite

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 30, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575 "2011-03-30T23:12:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/481 "2011-04-06T21:44:07Z")

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> [@Stendhal\_Syndrome](#):
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> First of all, I would like to apologize if I am breaking any cardinal rule around here by making my first post a pit post. My boyfriend has been here a while and I have usually lurked under his username…just on and off. He told me about this lindsaybluth character a few days ago and at first I thought he was just exaggerating about her attitude and I told him that you all were probably being too hard on her…UNTIL I started reading this thread and reading all her previous posts.
> 
> On a side note…we are not as privileged as I thought we were. We only have one useable plastic…yes plastic colander. The other one we have has rust in its tiny holes. I am waiting for all the tiny holes to fill up with rust so I can use it as a bowl. It will be…um…rustic.
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> And I sent my daughter without fruit to school today since our home ran out of fresh fruit two days ago. Forget fresh…we don’t even have frozen fruit.
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> But, on the brighter side, I have a phone that autocorrects the word “privileged” for me. Now…isn’t that frickin’ interesting?

No, honey- we have several tea strainers and a colander-sized tea strainer, AND a plastic colander that is white and another that is green somewhere…

And you didn’t mention you are a doctor- but not a real DR, a non-medical medical doctor…

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/482 "2011-04-06T22:04:49Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> When I die, I hope that folks will remember me for the colander thing…and not as the lady who allowed FutureHilter to rise up and annihilate the entire western world.

FutureHitler has been cracking me up all week.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/483 "2011-04-06T22:07:44Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> When I die, I hope that folks will remember me for the colander thing…and not as the lady who allowed FutureHilter to rise up and annihilate the entire western world.

I suggest you change your name to **you with the colander** immediately.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/484 "2011-04-06T22:10:03Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> I too am kinda sensitive about this issue because my SO is a social worker, and—believe me—she’s quite bright (modulo a little math anxiety). It’s not easy, say, to find placement for the psychiatrically ill and disabled when discharged from the hospital. Without social workers (or those in social work roles) no one solves the dirty little problems.
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> And they really get little respect. A lot of people seem to think of social workers as meddling baby-stealers; but even beyond that perception they’re often treated as a low-paid commodity. Where my SO works, nurses with baccalaureate degrees doing the same job are paid more than the social workers, who must have master’s degrees. It simply doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me (especially given that it isn’t what nurses are even trained to do).
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> In the interest of perfect fairness, however, I suppose part of the perception must come from the fact that there are dumb social workers. Most grad programs have ridiculously low entry requirements, so the least intellectually capable simply aren’t weeded out as well—and given the extremely low pay higher competitiveness is a double-edged sword.

I think the sentiments you express here would really be worthy of their own thread. There are a lot of reasons for the lack of respect social work gets. One of them is that in most states you can call yourself a social worker regardless of your credentials. A lot of social work jobs are held by people without social work training. Additionally, social work is a highly feminized field. The first social workers were upper class educated white women who decided they were going to go in and teach poor people how to be moral. It was in doing these home visits that the Friendly Visitors discovered - surprise! - being poor is not a character flaw. Out of that grew the community organizing/settlement house movement - again, led by upper class white women (notably Jane Addams.) The field is still overwhelmingly dominated by women.

This reality has led to the perception that it’s some kind of hobby or something - like paid volunteer work, something us ladies do to occupy ourselves while our children are at school. I admit I pretty much thought it was going to be like paid volunteer work, but that idea has been beaten right out of my pretty little head. This is an actual career, with actual skillsets that have to be learned, and it’s very difficult - in addition to the stress of trying to solve these complex problems, you have the stress of just constantly being immersed in all this suffering, and of course the stress of not being taken seriously as a professional.

I fully acknowledge that there are terrible social workers in the world - and when social workers screw up, the shit really hits the fan publicly because it usually means someone wound up dead. I’ve heard some horrific stories about clear negligence and incompetence - I know it exists. There are many reasons for it, and one of them is the fact that employers take for granted that anyone can do it.

Furthermore, social work encompasses such a huge range of positions that the term has been rendered nearly meaningless. You naturally think of your friendly child services worker when you hear ‘‘social work,’’ but you probably don’t think of policy advocacy and analysis, lobbying, staging protests, testifying before Congress, legislature, law, politics, program development and evaluation, consulting, HR management, non-profit leadership, etc. We have our hands in everything.

Shit, we recently had a ‘‘shout out for social work’’ event and even the damn fliers _published by the National Association of Social Work itself_ completely ignored the macro side of social work. It also ignored the concept of social justice. As a macro social worker who considers social justice fundamental to my professional identity, this annoys me. But it certainly demonstrates, that, like the Democratic party, we have serious messaging issues and a rather fractured identity.

[QUOTE=Cat Whisperer]  
Dammit - I was hoping for a Humanities Fight!  
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We should all just gang up on the philosophy majors.

(I kid. I was a philosophy major until Symbolic Logic sent me screaming from the classroom.)

[QUOTE=gurujulp]  
And you didn’t mention you are a doctor- but not a real DR, a non-medical medical doctor…  
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One of my favorite stories came from ‘‘The Last Lecture’’ by Randy Pausch. When he received his Ph.D. in computer science, his mother would introduce him thusly:

‘‘This is Randy… he’s a doctor. But not the kind who helps people.’’

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/485 "2011-04-06T23:00:16Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> One of my favorite stories came from ‘‘The Last Lecture’’ by Randy Pausch. When he received his Ph.D. in computer science, his mother would introduce him thusly:
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> ‘‘This is Randy… he’s a doctor. But not the kind who helps people.’’

WHen I was working in a law firm as a scientific adviser writing biotech patents and studying to pass the bar exam, one halloween I dressed up in my lab coat and my son’s Fisher-Price doctor kit and went as a “real doctor”. The only one’s who got it were the other PhD scientific advisers in the department.

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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/486 "2011-04-06T23:14:23Z")

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I want to know if **lindsaybluth** is actually all of these memes in irony, or if she really understands that she is these many shallow things, simply because of her user name. She IS the perfect [Lindsay Bluth](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arrested_Development_characters#Lindsay_F.C3.BCnke), and so this could be the most colanderishly colossal whoosh ever…

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/487 "2011-04-06T23:45:24Z")

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> [@gurujulp](#):
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> I want to know if **lindsaybluth** is actually all of these memes in irony, or if she really understands that she is these many shallow things, simply because of her user name. She IS the perfect [Lindsay Bluth](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arrested_Development_characters#Lindsay_F.C3.BCnke), and so this could be the most colanderishly colossal whoosh ever…

God, for her sake, I hope so…

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/488 "2011-04-07T01:54:52Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Your cat has a calendar? What’s the point of that? Cats don’t care about keeping appointments.

They use it so they know when to flipping disappear when its time for their vet appointment!!!

I might have lied about beating holes in one of their bowls…but I do have a little plastic colander looking thing that I bought on layaway so I can easily drain the tuna juice into their bowls. Does that count?

> [@Autolycus](#):
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> …I’m afraid I’m going to have to ask you to leave the thread. Your membership card, please.

Sobs in shame as you rip my Guest tag off my shirt. HEY!!! Leave the shirt!!!

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**Author:** ![Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stendhal_Syndrome)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/489 "2011-04-07T03:12:53Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> I hereby award you one-half of a shiny new internet and a voucher good for waivering either the “Squid” or “Goat” (but not both) portions of your SDMB Initiation Ritual for that pun.

Honored indeed!😃

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**Author:** ![Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Stendhal\_Syndrome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stendhal_Syndrome)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/490 "2011-04-07T03:21:55Z")

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> [@gurujulp](#):
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> No, honey- we have several tea strainers and a colander-sized tea strainer, AND a plastic colander that is white and another that is green somewhere…
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> And you didn’t mention you are a doctor- but not a real DR, a non-medical medical doctor…

Tea strainers count? I guess our home is colander/strainer heaven then. We are blessed.🙂

I think someone should start a new thread called: “What would lindsaybluth say?”

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/491 "2011-04-07T03:23:24Z")

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> [@Stendhal\_Syndrome](#):
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> Tea strainers count? I guess our home is colander/strainer heaven then. We are blessed.🙂
> 
> I think someone should start a new thread called: “What would lindsaybluth say?”

But wwlbs sounds like we’re on a diet.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/492 "2011-04-07T04:38:32Z")

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i blame lindsay for the sunburn i got today.

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/493 "2011-04-07T05:51:03Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> i blame lindsay for the sunburn i got today.

From what I’ve seen, Kijara silks don’t cover much. Sunburns must happen a lot :eek:

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/494 "2011-04-07T06:01:05Z")

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hey, were _you_ the creepy guy who gave us invites to some club in the next city over? i thought he mumbled something about colanders and opal before wandering off…

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/495 "2011-04-07T11:48:14Z")

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> [@gurujulp](#):
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> I want to know if **lindsaybluth** is actually all of these memes in irony, or if she really understands that she is these many shallow things, simply because of her user name. She IS the perfect [Lindsay Bluth](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arrested_Development_characters#Lindsay_F.C3.BCnke), and so this could be the most colanderishly colossal whoosh ever…

Having read the linked article, I have to wonder if we’re being played.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/496 "2011-04-07T13:02:07Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> Having read the linked article, I have to wonder if we’re being played.

I wonder that too. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/497 "2011-04-07T13:06:33Z")

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If so, she has an incredible amount of dedication to her craft. Wouldn’t the easiest explanation be that she is just a bitch? 😉

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/498 "2011-04-07T14:05:36Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> If so, she has an incredible amount of dedication to her craft. Wouldn’t the easiest explanation be that she is just a bitch? 😉

Pretty much. I don’t even see how she fits the Lindsay Bluth character all that well, anyway—Bluth, the wannabe activist, who wouldn’t praise hard work any more than she would engage in it.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/499 "2011-04-07T15:47:46Z")

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Jesus, you people with your colanders. In my house, we just have _strainers_. I feel so unworthy.

But we do have at least three of them.

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**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/500 "2011-04-07T16:32:03Z")

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Just doing my part to get this thread to page 11.

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