# lindsaybluth, please provide a cite **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 30, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575 "2011-03-30T23:12:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/41 "2011-03-31T18:39:19Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > Sorry **lorene**. I just apologized in the other thread as well. > > However… “However” is never a good adjunct to a classy apology. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/42 "2011-03-31T18:39:32Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > Hehe, I did indeed. Good catch. > > All of those silver spoons allow me to know the difference between humor and irony. So, all you need is a knife. ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/43 "2011-03-31T18:39:34Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > This was when I was done with her: > > This very sweet reply to a harried new mom: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13050927&postcount=100](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13050927&postcount=100) > > Recieved this total asshole response from her:[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13051115&postcount=101](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13051115&postcount=101) :rolleyes: The thread was specifically asking for tips and tricks to keeping your house clean when life is stressful. The “sweet reply” talks about her cats and dogs puking. The last line was super condescending: “A warm baby in your life is worth more than a lifetime of clean bathrooms”. Plenty of other people were giving her advice on how to _actually_ keep the mess in check. The rest of us _aren’t_ assholes for having clean houses or cleaning up cat puke. You know, when not properly cared for, animals bring tons of pathogens into the home as well that aren’t safe around those with weak immune systems…like babies. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/44 "2011-03-31T18:46:52Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Hey, any press is better than no press. **I’m kind of short on ideas on how to make this thread totally about me, though**. One word. Offshoring. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/45 "2011-03-31T19:05:47Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > :rolleyes: The thread was specifically asking for tips and tricks to keeping your house clean when life is stressful. The “sweet reply” talks about her cats and dogs puking. The last line was super condescending: “A warm baby in your life is worth more than a lifetime of clean bathrooms”. Plenty of other people were giving her advice on how to _actually_ keep the mess in check. The rest of us _aren’t_ assholes for having clean houses or cleaning up cat puke. You know, when not properly cared for, animals bring tons of pathogens into the home as well that aren’t safe around those with weak immune systems…like babies. Although I believe that the “sweet reply” was rather a little more patronizing than sweet, you’re grossly mischaracterizing it. The intent wasn’t to say “It’s _okay_ to live in squalor, and those who keep things clean are assholes”; it was to say “Times are tough now, but it’s worth it – you’ll look back and remember how nice it was to hold your little baby.” Arguably not at all what the OP was looking for, but your reply did nothing but make you look nasty and spiteful. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/46 "2011-03-31T19:07:33Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > One of the funniest things I’ve ever read on the Dope was the thread she started so all us poor peons could ask her what it was like to grow up in a house with a rec room. ..and a tv… and she had a computer and…food. > > [Ask the child of money - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551065) Oh, she did no such thing. She described how her parents struggled to build a new life here in the U.S. and how she never had to want for anything, which included TVs, fresh fuits and vegetables, nice hotel rooms, etc. Then she said the following: > [@](#): > > So, ask away. Ask what I think about the tax system, ask if I can sleep at night, ask what I plan to do for a living, ask about charity, ask about luxury cars and vacation homes - the decisions I make or my parents make, ask about anything. But please, don’t threadshit. What she was saying was ‘Ask how I feel about money in light of my parents’ struggles to build a better life and the better life I’ve benefitted from as a result’ - not ‘Ask me what it’s like to have a TV and food’. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/47 "2011-03-31T19:14:42Z")
Huh, another thread to be catty for the sake of being catty! Let the claws unleash from all sides!!! What I want to know is, if lindsaybluth has so much money, why does she use cheap drugstore makeup? _hiss_ ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/48 "2011-03-31T19:18:43Z")
> [@Grapefruit](#): > > Huh, another thread to be catty for the sake of being catty! Let the claws unleash from all sides!!! > > What I want to know is, if lindsaybluth has so much money, why does she use cheap drugstore makeup? > > _hiss_ This gave me a good laugh. But I have to say that both Wet n Wild and E.L.F. are giving NARS a run for its money on the blushes. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/49 "2011-03-31T19:20:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > What she was saying was ‘Ask how I feel about money in light of my parents’ struggles to build a better life and the better life I’ve benefitted from as a result’ - not ‘Ask me what it’s like to have a TV and food’. Seriously? If that’s what she intended, she could have put it better. She detailed her parents’ history, true, but the way she phrased her question— > [@](#): > > Ask what I think about the tax system, ask if I can sleep at night, ask what I plan to do for a living, ask about charity, ask about luxury cars and vacation homes - the decisions I make or my parents make, ask about anything. —particularly the parts where she says to ask about “luxury cars” or to “ask about anything”—makes me think the intent was really “I’m quite an interesting person, my parents are awesome [and my dad could beat up your dad], and I’ve experienced luxuries of which you could probably only dream. So ask me what it’s like to be me!” ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/50 "2011-03-31T19:23:55Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > :rolleyes: The thread was specifically asking for tips and tricks to keeping your house clean when life is stressful. The “sweet reply” talks about her cats and dogs puking. The last line was super condescending: “A warm baby in your life is worth more than a lifetime of clean bathrooms”. Plenty of other people were giving her advice on how to _actually_ keep the mess in check. The rest of us _aren’t_ assholes for having clean houses or cleaning up cat puke. You know, when not properly cared for, animals bring tons of pathogens into the home as well that aren’t safe around those with weak immune systems…like babies. Oh for god’s sake. It wasn’t condescending and the replies you got showed you were the one who misread it. It was a kind and sweet sentiment and you blew it. And never apologized or even entertained the idea you could be wrong. You wrote an incredibly bitchy reply and should have apologized. The person he was replying to was saying how bad she felt about keeping her house clean and all he was saying was it’s ok if you can’t clean because you’re cuddling your baby- don’t feel bad if it’s not always perfect. No one said anything about living in cat puke. It was a reply to say with a new baby sometimes you can’t worry about the house and just cuddle your baby. > [@](#): > > Although I believe that the “sweet reply” was rather a little more patronizing than sweet, you’re grossly mischaracterizing it. The intent wasn’t to say “It’s okay to live in squalor, and those who keep things clean are assholes”; it was to say “Times are tough now, but it’s worth it – you’ll look back and remember how nice it was to hold your little baby.” Arguably not at all what the OP was looking for, but your reply did nothing but make you look nasty and spiteful. And for complete disclosure- it was meant to be sweet. The guy who wrote is my husband and he was trying to be sweet and encouraging. It may have read that way to others- but I can assure you he was totally sincere. He loved those times with our kids. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/51 "2011-03-31T19:39:25Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > And for complete disclosure- it was meant to be sweet. The guy who wrote is my husband and he was trying to be sweet and encouraging. It may have read that way to others- but I can assure you he was totally sincere. He loved those times with our kids. Oh, sorry, I didn’t mean any offense to you or your husband; I believe that he was sincerely trying to be helpful. But it did come off (on my reading) just a bit patronizing. (As someone who is tearing his hair out trying to keep his giant rabbit from occasionally urinating outside his secondary cage, I sympathize—of course he isn’t a _child_, but the affection and entertainment I receive make the trouble worth it.) ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/52 "2011-03-31T19:41:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, she did no such thing. She described how her parents struggled to build a new life here in the U.S. and how she never had to want for anything, which included TVs, fresh fuits and vegetables, nice hotel rooms, etc. Then she said the following: > > What she was saying was ‘Ask how I feel about money in light of my parents’ struggles to build a better life and the better life I’ve benefitted from as a result’ - not ‘Ask me what it’s like to have a TV and food’. Well explained. It has amazed me how quick people are to almost willfully misunderstand that thread. I’ve chalked it up to people having a grudge against the author of the thread and I can’t say I’ve changed my mind about that. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/53 "2011-03-31T19:42:46Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Oh, sorry, I didn’t mean any offense to you or your husband; I believe that he was sincerely trying to be helpful. But it did come off (on my reading) just a bit patronizing. (As someone who is tearing his hair out trying to keep his giant rabbit from occasionally urinating outside his secondary cage, I sympathize—of course he isn’t a _child_, but the affection and entertainment I receive make the trouble worth it.) I can see that- and if someone had it that in the thread (“this sounds patronizing… do you mean it that way”) it would have been no big deal. But for such a smack down in a simple little housekeeping thread was so unnecessary. No worries. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/54 "2011-03-31T19:49:58Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Well explained. It has amazed me how quick people are to almost willfully misunderstand that thread. I’ve chalked it up to people having a grudge against the author of the thread and I can’t say I’ve changed my mind about that. As a counterexample, before this thread I wouldn’t have known her from Adam (I’m hanging around because I’m laboriously bibliographizing scores of papers—an excruciatingly boring task—and, when I see jerkish behavior, I don’t at all mind pointing it out). ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/55 "2011-03-31T19:57:11Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > This was when I was done with her: > > This very sweet reply to a harried new mom: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13050927&postcount=100](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13050927&postcount=100) > > Recieved this total asshole response from her:[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13051115&postcount=101](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13051115&postcount=101) I guess that’s the kind of thing I mean. It’s one thing to disagree with someone, but to be downright [vicious and cutting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13416618&postcount=42) in how you communicate your disagreement seems over-the-top to me. And I see it in a lot of l **indsay** ’s posts. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/56 "2011-03-31T20:03:18Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Seriously? If that’s what she intended, she could have put it better. She detailed her parents’ history, true, but the way she phrased her question— > > —particularly the parts where she says to ask about “luxury cars” or to “ask about anything”—makes me think the intent was really “I’m quite an interesting person, my parents are awesome [and my dad could beat up your dad], and I’ve experienced luxuries of which you could probably only dream. So ask me what it’s like to be me!” I don’t think so, although I could certainly be wrong. There is a lot of resentment on this board toward people with money, and it could be that she wanted to counter that by explaining how much better and enjoyable her life has been as a result of her parents’ hard work and the things they’ve been able to provide her with as a result. In other words, maybe she was trying to illustrate that having money is a good thing. But since she’s been participating in this thread maybe she could explain what she was thinking in saying what she did. At any rate, I think it’s a ridiculous synopsis of her post to say she wanted people to ask what it was like to have a television and food. > [@Sleeps With Butterflies](#): > > It has amazed me how quick people are to almost willfully misunderstand that thread. I’ve chalked it up to people having a grudge against the author of the thread and I can’t say I’ve changed my mind about that. I agree. I think she basically just doesn’t understand her audience here and comes in for undue grief as a result. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/57 "2011-03-31T20:39:43Z")
I don’t think there’s any mystery as to why **lindsaybluth** has attracted a fair amount of ill will during her short time on this site. 98% of the time, she is a normal poster, and has excellent taste in television programs. The other 2% of the time, she indulges in a vicious streak, making extremely nasty comments with little or no provocation. God help you if you don’t live up to her standards or your parents were too stupid to become doctors and give you the advantages she had. I’d say she’s a typical young person with limited life experience and a capacity for empathy that approaches zero. If I were younger and more naive, I’d make some noises here about karma and comeuppance, but I know better now. Zero self-awareness, unbounded confidence, _and_ a mean streak? The sky is the limit for this girl and I’m not joking. I just wish this daughter of doctors would get her Mr. Hyde more firmly in hand. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/58 "2011-03-31T20:54:29Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > I guess that’s the kind of thing I mean. It’s one thing to disagree with someone, but to be downright [vicious and cutting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13416618&postcount=42) in how you communicate your disagreement seems over-the-top to me. And I see it in a lot of l **indsay** ’s posts. Somehow I missed the “Ask me about what it’s like to be awesomely me” thread, but in the linked post her response was directed at me. I think her condescension is hilarious considering her qualifications on any subject amount to “daddy’s a doctor and I knows lots about medicine!”. She is a bitch, in everything she does, and her down the nose “scurry off while the adults talk” attitude is fucking hilarious considering she barely is one. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/59 "2011-03-31T21:09:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Hey, any press is better than no press. I’m kind of short on ideas on how to make this thread totally about me, though. you could try writing all in lowercase. (sorry) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/60 "2011-03-31T21:13:02Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Hey, any press is better than no press. For the second time in two days I’ll say… You should ask Rick Santorum about that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575.md?page=4)