# lindsaybluth, please provide a cite **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 30, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575 "2011-03-30T23:12:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/61 "2011-03-31T23:00:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I think she basically just doesn’t understand her audience here and comes in for undue grief as a result. Well, I’ll suggest that a fair amount of the grief is due, not undue. When you insult someone and then realize (when it’s pointed out to you) that you’ve mistaken one poster for another, normal people apologize. Whether it’s the narcissism or simply the cover provided by the anonymity of the internet, however, she’s not behaving like a normal person here. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/62 "2011-03-31T23:35:27Z")
> [@Campion](#): > > When you insult someone and then realize (when it’s pointed out to you) that you’ve mistaken one poster for another, normal people apologize. Well, it’s a good thing she apologized twice now then huh? Maybe if she’d have done it three times you might have noticed it? #1st apology in this very thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13635448&postcount=21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13635448&postcount=21) #2nd apology in the original thread for those who don’t frequent the pit. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13635433&postcount=159](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13635433&postcount=159) I’m afraid if you want more you’ll have to PM her directly to arrange for the pound of flesh you may desire. Have a lovely evening. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/63 "2011-03-31T23:59:20Z")
Yeah, she apologized for mistaking the posters, not for the sentiment itself. That’s like screaming “You fat ugly cunt, I hope you fucking die!” and then going “oops, sorry, I meant the fat cunt behind you. So sorry!” ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/64 "2011-04-01T00:02:31Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Hey, any press is better than no press. I’m kind of short on ideas on how to make this thread totally about me, though. Well, for starters, you know that unscented deodorant you claim to use? It’s not working. Not by a long shot. You smell like a gangrenous pustule on the aborted lovechild of Surströmming and Vindaloo. They use the leftover water from your yearly shower to make Kusaya. You make me sick, literally. See? Now you insult me and we’ll make this thread about both of us! ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/65 "2011-04-01T00:06:09Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Well explained. It has amazed me how quick people are to almost willfully misunderstand that thread. I’ve chalked it up to people having a grudge against the author of the thread and I can’t say I’ve changed my mind about that. Maybe she should’ve called it " Ask the Girl Whose Parents Are Self-Made "rather than “Ask the Child Of Money” ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/66 "2011-04-01T00:06:36Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > particularly the parts where she says to ask about “luxury cars” or to “ask about anything”—makes me think the intent was really “I’m quite an interesting person, my parents are awesome [and my dad could beat up your dad], and I’ve experienced luxuries of which you could probably only dream. So ask me what it’s like to be me!” Um, no. Ask me about anything meant quite literally “ask me about anything”. I was trying to shed light on the fact that people with some dough aren’t horrible people, that they aren’t necessarily gifted from birth. All of the assholes no doubt never had their parent sob in front of them, crying about how they went hungry as a child and that’s why you now _have_ to have a spoonful of peanut butter in the mornings before school. There are neuroses they’re trying to work through that they transferred me as a result of their hard young lives. I was looking forward to talking about the volunteer work I’d done in South LA because I didn’t have to have a job in college so that’s what I did for a few years. My mom once bought a piece of property without financing and without asking my dad first. That’s frickin’ interesting. Hence the “anything” part. People think money falls from the sky, that it has nothing to do with hard work, that social mobility in America is a myth. It makes them feel better about their extraordinarily mundane lives. My best friend from college grew up 7 people to one bathroom. I lived in a house with 7 bathrooms. How we grew close and what difficulties we faced in being friends is a really cool story. Not that anyone is interested in that. So no, I don’t piss on the poor in my spare time. Actually in the thread it was the people who were/are poor who were fascinated at not having to worry about college tuition. They have dreams and desires to climb the socioeconomic ladder. Most others in the thread were defensive for not pursuing their dreams. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > And for complete disclosure- it was meant to be sweet. The guy who wrote is my husband and he was trying to be sweet and encouraging. You don’t like me because the guy I criticized was your husband? Seriously? > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Well explained. It has amazed me how quick people are to almost willfully misunderstand that thread. I’ve chalked it up to people having a grudge against the author of the thread and I can’t say I’ve changed my mind about that. I had no idea I was so loathed! Still, I do believe that ultimately people have all sorts of excuses about why they haven’t written the Great American Novel and why they’re not rich. Rather than say “I’m lazy” or “I’m not smart enough”, it’s easier to be seduced by “economic mobility isn’t real”. If I had a dollar for every time someone said “I could have done what JK Rowling did!” I’d have enough to make it rain. > [@Erdosain](#): > > 98% of the time, she is a normal poster, and has excellent taste in television programs. Not to get too off topic, but you MUST watch Parks & Recreation if you aren’t already doing so. It’s been renewed for another season but is always on the cusp. I highly recommend it. Were you in the thread recommending 24? If so IT’S AWESOME but like others said, I don’t think I’ll watch beyond season 3. There’s only so many crazy storylines a gal can handle. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > For the second time in two days I’ll say… You should ask Rick Santorum about that. Again, not to get too off topic but an acquaintance (is that what you call people you have to see socially but don’t like?) went to a private fundraiser type thingy (as a guest with someone) for him a couple of weeks ago. The man really truly without a scintilla of doubt thinks he is going to be the next president. No “maybe if we raise more/maybe if the tide turns/it’s going to be an uphill battle”, nothing. > [@Grapefruit](#): > > What I want to know is, if lindsaybluth has so much money, why does she use cheap drugstore makeup? Now _this_ is funny stuff. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/67 "2011-04-01T00:23:57Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > I was trying to shed light on the fact that people with some dough aren’t horrible people, that they aren’t necessarily gifted from birth. Except, that you pretty much are a horrible person, who was gifted from birth, but somehow you feel qualified to tell your parents’ rags-to-riches story as though you were in any way involved during the whole rags part. Yeah, I don’t understand why more people don’t like you! You’re just an ambassador of good will from the haves, spreading the good news of “shoot for your dreams” and “work hard for what you want” to the have-nots! After all, you didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/68 "2011-04-01T00:26:12Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Yeah, she apologized for mistaking the posters, not for the sentiment itself. That’s like screaming “You fat ugly cunt, I hope you fucking die!” and then going “oops, sorry, I meant the fat cunt behind you. So sorry!” And then she went on to say that **lorene** has a habit of coming into threads just to criticize her. Kind of a hollow apology to me. ---
**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/69 "2011-04-01T00:31:29Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > #1st apology in this very thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13635448&postcount=21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13635448&postcount=21) Here is what an apology looks like: I’m sorry. Here is what was offered in this thread: I’m sorry I mixed you up with another poster, but you just have it in for me anyway and you lack reading comprehension skills and are a nuisance. Do you see the difference? I get that **lindsaybluth** doesn’t, and I agree with you that her self-centered immaturity can be charming at times, but she needs to add “can apologize appropriately” to her IEP this year. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/70 "2011-04-01T00:50:50Z")
Re: the apology. **lorene** graciously accepted the apology, who knew it had to pass muster with the peanut gallery, too? I must admit that some of you have a hilarious amount of pent up loathing for someone who only affects your life here on a messageboard. May I suggest you fill out the following form and PM it to me so that I can see if we can let the healing begin? [http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/mbeach01/butthurt.jpg](http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy34/mbeach01/butthurt.jpg) I love this place. SO much unintentional humor. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/71 "2011-04-01T01:06:22Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > You don’t like me because the guy I criticized was your husband? Seriously? You seem surprised by this concept. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/72 "2011-04-01T01:17:18Z")
You came to my attention when the poster you attacked was my husband. I was shocked anyone could be so nasty out of left field like that Then I saw how man times you lash out, cruelly, when a simple statement of disagreement is all that was necessary. Hell, weren’t you suspended for just this reason? You seem to just have a mean streak that cuts to the quick. It’s not pleasant to be around. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/73 "2011-04-01T01:21:51Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > You don’t like me because the guy I criticized was your husband? Seriously? I got the impression that **IvoryTowerDenizen** only mentioned the husband thing because it would have felt weirdly secretive not to. Her previous explanations for why she didn’t care for your tone in that particular exchange seemed perfectly reasonable to me and had nothing to do with the fact that the guy you criticized was her husband. In my opinion. I’m not really going to jump on the “ **lindsay** is a horrible person and is probably the source of the BP oil spill” pile-on here, but I will say that IMO you could work on your tone a little bit. Or work a little harder on picking up the nuances of other people’s tones. (Or both!) Like the exchange in question here: It’s a common enough thing for people to advise new parents, “Enjoy your baby while he’s a baby, and there’ll be time for cleaning house later.” I mean, I’ve seen freaking cross-stitching projects with similar sentiments stitched on, in verse. (“Quiet now cobwebs, and dust go to sleep. I’m rocking my baby, and babies don’t keep.”) So for you to interpret someone giving this extremely common and well-meaning piece of advice to a new parent as, “I recommend not cleaning up cat puke and living in complete filth,” is really tone-deaf. Admittedly I am not sure how one goes about not being tone-deaf anymore, but assuming such a thing is possible, I think you should consider giving it a go. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/74 "2011-04-01T01:29:40Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I got the impression that **IvoryTowerDenizen** only mentioned the husband thing because it would have felt weirdly secretive not to. Her previous explanations for why she didn’t care for your tone in that particular exchange seemed perfectly reasonable to me and had nothing to do with the fact that the guy you criticized was her husband. In my opinion. yes, that is exactly right. ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/75 "2011-04-01T01:40:41Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Except, that you pretty much are a horrible person I’m gonna be totally honest here - who the fuck \*are \*you? And do you feel bad that someone you spend a lot of time and energy hating can’t tell you from Adam? (And in all seriousness, nice username). > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Re: the apology. **lorene** graciously accepted the apology, who knew it had to pass muster with the peanut gallery, too? **lorene** has actually been quite classy, I am impressed. I don’t find her intelligent but she has grace that I certainly don’t possess. > [@Miller](#): > > You seem surprised by this concept. I thought the hive mindset of couples only existed on sit-coms and _Cops_. > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I love this place. SO much unintentional humor. Surely you’re not making light of “I found out my internet boyfriend/girlfriend is cheating on me using an alias”. > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I’m not really going to jump on the “ **lindsay** is a horrible person and is probably the source of the BP oil spill” pile-on here, Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. You _don’t_ actually know it wasn’t all my fault. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/76 "2011-04-01T01:46:53Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Yeah, she apologized for mistaking the posters, not for the sentiment itself. That’s like screaming “You fat ugly cunt, I hope you fucking die!” and then going “oops, sorry, I meant the fat cunt behind you. So sorry!” As the apparent intended ugly fat cunt 😃 I would like the following noted: A) I _am_ fat right now but as I am 36 and a half weeks pregnant I think the fat can be excused. Or at least thought adorable when it moves from side to side. B) I only have one child (at least until my water breaks). C) The insane leafblower loving neighbor has put her house up for sale. I am hoping the house sells quickly and I get a neighbor that is tolerant of standard issue noisy children and believes the proper way to deal with leaves is a rake and some exercise rather than three hours of leaf blowing. You may now carry on with your pitting. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/77 "2011-04-01T02:06:11Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Re: the apology. **lorene** graciously accepted the apology, who knew it had to pass muster with the peanut gallery, too? All comments are subject to review by the peanut gallery. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/78 "2011-04-01T02:08:28Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > I’m gonna be totally honest here - who the fuck \*are \*you? And do you feel bad that someone you spend a lot of time and energy hating can’t tell you from Adam? (And in all seriousness, nice username). I don’t know how to answer this question, I’m just somebody who has had encounters with you in the past and found you wholly unpalatable, and your attitude that of the misguided and ugly noveau-rich. I hardly spend much time or energy on you, in fact I don’t even see your posts because of the bad taste I have gotten from you in the past. But I can wholeheartedly support a pitting of you and your attitude. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/79 "2011-04-01T02:13:47Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > **lorene** has actually been quite classy, I am impressed. I don’t find her intelligent but she has grace that I certainly don’t possess. See? That there. That’s what you need to work on. That’s an extraordinarily nasty thing to say for no obvious reason. You owe **lorene** another apology. After less than one thread! ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/80 "2011-04-01T02:22:28Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > I’m gonna be totally honest here - who the fuck \*are \*you? And do you feel bad that someone you spend a lot of time and energy hating can’t tell you from Adam? (And in all seriousness, nice username). Its an interesting fallacy you’ve discovered here. I can easily know “Oh, lindsaybluth; she’s the snarky rich brat who thinks she’s smarter than she is.” without spending much more than a neuron or two to store the fact. No time, energy, or emotion needed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575.md?page=5)