# lindsaybluth, please provide a cite

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 30, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575 "2011-03-30T23:12:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/81 "2011-04-01T02:28:55Z")

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Yeah; I’m not sure that’s quite how that works, either. I’m pretty sure I’d recognize the guy who crapped in the elevator if I saw him again, and I bet he doesn’t know me. I don’t think that means he’s winning.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/82 "2011-04-01T02:32:35Z")

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> [@lindsaybluth](#):
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> **lorene** has actually been quite classy, I am impressed. I don’t find her intelligent but she has grace that I certainly don’t possess.

Wow, you’re just so clueless. Oh well, you’ll grow up eventually.

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/83 "2011-04-01T02:39:23Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> There is a lot of resentment on this board toward people with money, and it could be that she wanted to counter that by explaining how much better and enjoyable her life has been as a result of her parents’ hard work and the things they’ve been able to provide her with as a result. In other words, maybe she was trying to illustrate that having money is a good thing.

Well, I suppose there’s a chance that she meant that thread that way. But it came off as just bragging and putting down people who didn’t grow up with as much money as her. The ironic thing about it was that when the details came out, her family wasn’t nearly as super-rich or as exciting as she thought. A couple of other posters came in and demonstrated what true ‘children of money’ were.

Overall, she’s inordinately proud of her family and their accomplishments. There’s nothing wrong with being proud of family members, but she’s way over the top about it and acts like what they did is so terribly unique and wondrous - immigrants who work their way up are hardly especially unusual in North America. Add to that the fact that she believes that her parents being doctors magically gives her special insights into the medical world, and the fact that at 23 she thinks she knows how to raise other peoples children and claims to have raised a teenager by virtue of having a younger brother … well, if you can’t see why people make fun of her for that thread, I can’t help you.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/84 "2011-04-01T02:55:31Z")

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I was unaware of **lindsaybluth** prior to this thread, and I have to say - my defense of her OP in the other thread notwithstanding - that based upon some of her comments in this thread I’m beginning to see why so many people have an issue with her. Her crack about **lorene’s** (alleged lack of) intelligence is a good example.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/85 "2011-04-01T03:35:58Z")

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I was heartened to learn that she grew up drinking milk FOUR times a day!

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/86 "2011-04-01T03:38:12Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I was heartened to learn that she grew up drinking milk FOUR times a day!

No doubt lapping it up from an _actual_ silver plated saucer!

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/87 "2011-04-01T03:42:29Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I was heartened to learn that she grew up drinking milk FOUR times a day!

Milk?? FOUR times a day??? No freakin way man, no freakin way. She should change her name to Rockefeller.

I had to lap muddy water from a puddle when I wanted a drink.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/88 "2011-04-01T03:45:27Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> Milk?? FOUR times a day??? No freakin way man, no freakin way. She should change her name to Rockefeller.
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> I had to lap muddy water from a puddle when I wanted a drink.

The easier to collect those escargots, ma petite!

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**Author:** ![Teaira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9d8465/32.png) [@Teaira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teaira)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/89 "2011-04-01T04:02:26Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> God help you if you don’t live up to her standards or your parents were too stupid to become doctors and give you the advantages she had. I’d say she’s a typical young person with limited life experience and a capacity for empathy that approaches zero.

This looks accurate to me.

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**Author:** ![SarahFox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SarahFox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SarahFox)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/90 "2011-04-01T04:24:36Z")

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I agree, I mean if you’re talking about someone you thought was trashy what’s wrong with mentioning that they are also overweight? Its just describing her more in detail. Whats wrong with saying someone is obese?

Malchik gey pokazhi mne lyubov

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/91 "2011-04-01T04:52:53Z")

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> [@SarahFox](#):
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> I agree, I mean if you’re talking about someone you thought was trashy what’s wrong with mentioning that they are also overweight? Its just describing her more in detail. Whats wrong with saying someone is obese?

What’s the point of mentioning that they’re obese? It had nothing to do with either of her stories. What would the reaction be if she had said “this black woman asked who was talking to my mom…”.

It doesn’t matter. She didn’t describe the person in any other way, so it’s pretty clear that it was just meant to be a slam. Particularly since \*\*lindsay \*\*has made her judgemental thoughts about weight clear in other threads (eg., the one where she complained about her MIL’s terrible parenting skills because the kids were _gasp_ overweight).

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/92 "2011-04-01T05:27:03Z")

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> [@SarahFox](#):
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> I agree, I mean if you’re talking about someone you thought was trashy what’s wrong with mentioning that they are also overweight? Its just describing her more in detail. Whats wrong with saying someone is obese?

Lindsay has a long history of being nasty about fat people, she’s very clear about her belief that being fat is a character flaw and a moral failing and in children, evidence of poor parenting. So when she describes someone as “obese” it’s Lindsay shorthand for “not a good person.”

She’s very judgmental, and I don’t think age or upbringing has as much to do with it as just her personality. Her kind of arrogance is borne out of something else, and it’s nothing nice.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/93 "2011-04-01T11:24:42Z")

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> [@lindsaybluth](#):
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> **lorene** has actually been quite classy, I am impressed. I don’t find her intelligent but she has grace that I certainly don’t possess.

My goodness.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/94 "2011-04-01T11:37:42Z")

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Actually, I’ve oftne found grace and intelligence go hand in hand. Anybody can be an ill-mannered shlub, but it takes intelligence and training - and a fairly sharp and alert mind - to consistently behave with grace, given the endless struggles placed in its way.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/95 "2011-04-01T11:52:33Z")

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> [@straight\_man](#):
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> You owe **lorene** another apology. After less than one thread!

I think we should quit while we’re ahead, seeing as apologies are just another vehicle to get digs in.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/96 "2011-04-01T12:38:55Z")

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> [@lindsaybluth](#):
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> **lorene** has actually been quite classy, I am impressed. I don’t find her intelligent but she has grace that I certainly don’t possess.

Indeed.

Okay, with such a socially-clueless statement like that, you have revealed yourself to be…what: high-functioning Asperger’s? I mean, you clearly have no clue about the impact of your word choice in social situations. You \*do \*see that upon reflection, don’t you? Your statement above is indeed graceless and downright rude.

I suppose it might explain your “child of privelege” thread - maybe you really \*did \*want to express gratitude to your parents and had no clue that you were presenting yourself so poorly.

Other than apologizing to \*\*lorene \*\*- awkwardly - for a clearly-mistaken quote attribution - you haven’t demonstrated much willingness to listen to what folks are telling you. But given your recent history with the SDMB, it seems like it might be worth taking a step back and thinking about how you present yourself.

My $.02

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/97 "2011-04-01T12:49:40Z")

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She was recently suspended for just these reasons. That step back didn’t seem to have much impact. Ah, well.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/98 "2011-04-01T12:56:08Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> privelege

privilege

:smack:

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/99 "2011-04-01T13:11:29Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Indeed.
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> Okay, with such a socially-clueless statement like that, you have revealed yourself to be…what: high-functioning Asperger’s?

Everybody these days seems to have bloody Aspergers. Why cant it be that some people are just assholes?  
ETA: Actually, to anybody who thinks I am an asshole, I would like to clarify that no, I dont have aspergers. Or any other flavour of the month condition designed to excuse idiots for their actions.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsaybluth-please-provide-a-cite/576575/100 "2011-04-01T13:55:34Z")

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Why in the world is everyone catching the vapors because she said she doesn’t particularly find lorene intelligent? I have been called worse in cafe society.

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