# Lindsey Graham for president thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 7, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913 "2015-06-07T18:35:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/121 "2015-10-16T17:11:13Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > “Get tough” rhetoric is not necessarily about going to war. Yeah, too many Dems believed that with Bush: he supposedly wanted the authority to go to war in Iraq so that his threats would be sufficiently credible to get Saddam to cough up the WMDs. And we saw how that worked out. So “Fool me once, shame on … shame on you. Fool me… You can’t get fooled again!” We have to assume that when a Republican wants to ‘get tough,’ he means he wants to bring that hammer down. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/122 "2015-10-17T03:06:56Z")
Bush was one President. It’s interesting that the Democrats assumed that with Bush when they thought that Reagan was determined to start WWIII. But Republicans don’t look to GWB as an example. They look to Reagan. So harsh rhetoric does not mean war. The era of elective war started and ended with GWB. Although Obama has kept the “elective humanitarian wars” Democratic doctrine alive and well. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/123 "2015-10-17T03:48:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Bush was one President. It’s interesting that the Democrats assumed that with Bush when they thought that Reagan was determined to start WWIII. > > But Republicans don’t look to GWB as an example. They look to Reagan. With Reagan they still made mistakes, but at least they knew when to run away. > **[When Reagan Cut and Run](https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/02/07/when-reagan-cut-and-run/)** > > The forgotten history of when America boldly abandoned ship in the Middle East. > [@](#): > > Thirty years ago this week, President Ronald Reagan made perhaps the most purposeful and consequential foreign-policy decision of his presidency. Though he never said so explicitly, he ended America’s military commitment to a strategic mistake that was peripheral to America’s interests. Three-and-a-half months after the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 U.S. military personnel — and after repeatedly pledging not to do so — Reagan ordered the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Lebanon. As Gen. Colin Powell later aptly summarized this military misadventure: “Beirut wasn’t sensible and it never did serve a purpose. It was goofy from the beginning.” > [@adaher](#): > > So harsh rhetoric does not mean war. The era of elective war started and ended with GWB. I’m sorry but I do not want to test that with another Bush, and even less with a Trump. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/124 "2015-10-17T05:12:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Since we were on this subject in this thread, . . . > [@adaher](#): > > It is. Graham’s primary focus is slaying dragons abroad. However, rehashing other events is not actually addressing the Graham candidacy. It was a hijack, even if organic or inadvertent. Take it to a separate thread in Great Debates and drop it in this thread. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/125 "2015-10-17T15:14:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Could we keep this thread focused on, y’know, Lindsey Graham? That depends–is Graham still running? Is Graham still alive? Outside this thread I haven’t heard about him for a couple months. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/126 "2015-10-18T03:24:01Z")
Graham just raised(placing pinky between lips) one million dollars. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/127 "2015-11-26T12:49:20Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > That depends–is Graham still running? Is Graham still alive? Outside this thread I haven’t heard about him for a couple months. [Apparently he is still running](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-pariss-wake-a-changed-presidential-contest--and-electorate/2015/11/22/4ef899b8-8fc7-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html?postshare=5041448292371459&tid=ss_tw): > [@](#): > > “If you’re worried about going to the mall, you won’t worry if I’m president,” Graham said at a town hall in Manchester, N.H. Well, that’s good! Because the only reason I’d be the least bit worried about going to the mall is if some white guy in his 20s or 30s, with an AR-15 and a bag of grudges against the world, decided that my local mall was the place he was going to settle all those grudges, once and for all. So if Graham is elected President, he’s gonna take everyone’s guns away? Good for him! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![basquebromance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@basquebromance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basquebromance)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/128 "2015-11-26T15:10:14Z")
Strom Thurmond had four kids after age 67. If you’re not willing to do that, we need to come up with a new immigration system! ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/129 "2015-11-26T15:14:30Z")
Err…what? ---
**Author:** ![basquebromance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@basquebromance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basquebromance)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/130 "2015-11-26T15:21:56Z")
that’s a Lindsey Graham quote, sir! ---
**Author:** ![basquebromance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@basquebromance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basquebromance)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/131 "2015-11-26T15:22:59Z")
I was channeling Senator Graham! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/132 "2015-11-26T15:40:25Z")
> [@basquebromance](#): > > I was channeling Senator Graham! Who, I strongly suspect, will never have four kids . . . ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/133 "2015-12-21T14:46:45Z")
[Lindsey Graham is done](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/politics/lindsey-graham-2016-campaign-drops-out/index.html). Will anyone notice? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/134 "2015-12-21T14:56:42Z")
As a South Carolinian, I will. Not that I’m crying, get me. But at least he was trying to be an adult in the room. See how far THAT got him. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/135 "2015-12-21T15:05:43Z")
Even though he never saw a foreign issue that wasn’t a call for war, on other things he was more reasonable and sane than the other Republican candidates. He would be a disaster as president, but less so than Trump, Cruz, or Carson. ---
**Author:** ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/136 "2015-12-21T16:09:55Z")
Well, he wasn’t the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/137 "2015-12-21T16:26:00Z")
> [@CGav8r](#): > > Well, he wasn’t the worst. And thus couldn’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/138 "2015-12-21T17:34:56Z")
I guess it’s saying something that when I saw this thread pop up in the Elections forum with new messages, my immediate reaction was to check a news page to see if he had dropped out before opening the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/139 "2015-12-21T18:01:00Z")
Kind of sad to see him go actually, even though the writing was on the wall for him as soon as he announced his candidacy. [Queen]Hey! It’s gonna get you too…[/Queen] ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913/140 "2015-12-21T19:51:39Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > [Lindsey Graham is done](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/politics/lindsey-graham-2016-campaign-drops-out/index.html). > > Will anyone notice? Actually, a bunch of folks might, because SC is an early primary (4th on the GOP side, I think) and a good deal of SC endorsements just got opened up (of course you are going to endorse your sitting Senator if you want to get ahead in the SC GOP). So that should be interesting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-graham-for-president-thread/721913.md?page=8)