Yeah, too many Dems believed that with Bush: he supposedly wanted the authority to go to war in Iraq so that his threats would be sufficiently credible to get Saddam to cough up the WMDs. And we saw how that worked out.
So “Fool me once, shame on … shame on you. Fool me… You can’t get fooled again!” We have to assume that when a Republican wants to ‘get tough,’ he means he wants to bring that hammer down.
Bush was one President. It’s interesting that the Democrats assumed that with Bush when they thought that Reagan was determined to start WWIII.
But Republicans don’t look to GWB as an example. They look to Reagan. So harsh rhetoric does not mean war. The era of elective war started and ended with GWB. Although Obama has kept the “elective humanitarian wars” Democratic doctrine alive and well.
With Reagan they still made mistakes, but at least they knew when to run away.
I’m sorry but I do not want to test that with another Bush, and even less with a Trump.
However, rehashing other events is not actually addressing the Graham candidacy. It was a hijack, even if organic or inadvertent. Take it to a separate thread in Great Debates and drop it in this thread.
[ /Moderating ]
That depends–is Graham still running? Is Graham still alive? Outside this thread I haven’t heard about him for a couple months.
Graham just raised(placing pinky between lips) one million dollars.
Apparently he is still running:
Well, that’s good! Because the only reason I’d be the least bit worried about going to the mall is if some white guy in his 20s or 30s, with an AR-15 and a bag of grudges against the world, decided that my local mall was the place he was going to settle all those grudges, once and for all.
So if Graham is elected President, he’s gonna take everyone’s guns away? Good for him! 
Strom Thurmond had four kids after age 67. If you’re not willing to do that, we need to come up with a new immigration system!
Err…what?
that’s a Lindsey Graham quote, sir!
I was channeling Senator Graham!
Who, I strongly suspect, will never have four kids . . .
Will anyone notice?
As a South Carolinian, I will.
Not that I’m crying, get me. But at least he was trying to be an adult in the room. See how far THAT got him.
Even though he never saw a foreign issue that wasn’t a call for war, on other things he was more reasonable and sane than the other Republican candidates. He would be a disaster as president, but less so than Trump, Cruz, or Carson.
Well, he wasn’t the worst.
And thus couldn’t win.
I guess it’s saying something that when I saw this thread pop up in the Elections forum with new messages, my immediate reaction was to check a news page to see if he had dropped out before opening the thread.
Kind of sad to see him go actually, even though the writing was on the wall for him as soon as he announced his candidacy.
[Queen]Hey! It’s gonna get you too…[/Queen]
Actually, a bunch of folks might, because SC is an early primary (4th on the GOP side, I think) and a good deal of SC endorsements just got opened up (of course you are going to endorse your sitting Senator if you want to get ahead in the SC GOP). So that should be interesting.