# Lindsey Graham's Response to the Russians **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 30, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773 "2023-05-30T14:53:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/1 "2023-05-30T14:53:42Z")
So I’m actually going to praise something Graham said. The other day Graham said that the money spent in Ukraine was well spent as it is kiling Russian soldiers. The Russian government responded by issuing an arrest warrant for Graham. But I have to say I admire Graham’s response to the warrant: “Here’s an offer to my Russian ‘friends’ who want to arrest and try me for calling out the Putin regime as being war criminals: I will submit to jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court if you do,” > **[Lindsey Graham responds defiantly to arrest warrant from Russia](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/29/lindsey-graham-putin-russia-warrant-hague-00099168)** > > “Come and make your best case. See you in The Hague!” Graham said. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/2 "2023-05-30T15:01:23Z")
If only Graham could stand up to trump as bravely. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/3 "2023-05-30T15:02:02Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > So I’m actually going to praise something Graham said. > > The other day Graham said that the money spent in Ukraine was well spent as it is kiling Russian soldiers. The Russian government responded by issuing an arrest warrant for Graham. But I have to say I admire Graham’s response to the warrant: > > “Here’s an offer to my Russian ‘friends’ who want to arrest and try me for calling out the Putin regime as being war criminals: I will submit to jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court if you do,” > > [Lindsey Graham responds defiantly to arrest warrant from Russia - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/29/lindsey-graham-putin-russia-warrant-hague-00099168) - No, he won’t. He’s like the chihuahua who hides behind the bulldog in the Tom and Jerry cartoons. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/4 "2023-05-30T15:09:52Z")
Nonetheless, it is an appropriate reply. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/5 "2023-05-30T15:17:06Z")
I’ll warrant that someone wrote it for him. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/6 "2023-05-30T17:08:00Z")
It is a good reply. Just words, of course, but pointed ones. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/7 "2023-05-30T18:13:32Z")
Graham’s a vocal supporter of democracy outside the United States. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/8 "2023-05-30T18:15:46Z")
I had the same thought, as it happens. I have never understood how and why Graham so completely capitulated to Trump. I’m not one prone to conspiracy theories, but it does make me wonder if Trump has something on him. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/9 "2023-05-30T20:28:55Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I’m not one prone to conspiracy theories, but it does make me wonder if Trump has something on him. What Trump has is the ear of the vast majority of South Carolinians that vote for Graham. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/10 "2023-05-31T13:54:19Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I had the same thought, as it happens. I have never understood how and why Graham so completely capitulated to Trump. I’m not one prone to conspiracy theories, but it does make me wonder if Trump has something on him. People love saying that and it obviously makes no sense. It doesn’t work like that. There is no way that Trump has a secret known only to Trump that can be used for blackmail. How would he even come by such a thing without dozens of others knowing? The answer is very simple. Graham does what he does to maintain his power for the short term and continuously changes as needed. The only “blackmail” is Trump saying, “kiss my ass or I’ll tell people not to vote for you.” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/11 "2023-05-31T14:39:25Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > People love saying that and it obviously makes no sense. It doesn’t work like that. There is no way that Trump has a secret known only to Trump that can be used for blackmail. How would he even come by such a thing without dozens of others knowing? Not saying I believe it, but if it’s true, he could have learned something _interesting_ from the Russians. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/12 "2023-05-31T14:44:26Z")
I don’t see any reasonable way it could be true. How could Trump not be one of scores of people to know whatever it is and also have actual believable proof? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/13 "2023-05-31T15:05:36Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > How could Trump not be one of scores of people to know whatever it is and also have actual believable proof? And keep his mouth shut about it? ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/14 "2023-05-31T15:17:24Z")
It’s a great response to Russia. As for Lyndsey Graham’s apparent departure from sanity, I’m as puzzled as anyone. Some years ago, his colleague Al Franken had mostly good things to say about him: realistic outlook, funny, able to compromise when necessary. That all vanished when Trump took office. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/15 "2023-05-31T16:19:39Z")
Right. Which is what’s so weird. Because there’s a lot of space between “Trump is the president, and of my party, so I’ll work with him” and frothing Trumpy nutterism. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/16 "2023-05-31T17:37:16Z")
An awful lot of people seem to lose their mind shortly after starting to hang around Trump. Although maybe the decision to hang around Trump was their first unhinged act. We also know that nuttiness in general is what happens when the normal restorative forces that keep you in the normal lane are reduced or eliminated. After that the wackiness just seems to increase exponentially. Whatever specifically went wrong with Graham, it started as a small seed and is now anything but small. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/17 "2023-05-31T17:45:30Z")
Not any more. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/18 "2023-05-31T22:48:56Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > “Here’s an offer to my Russian ‘friends’ who want to arrest and try me for calling out the Putin regime as being war criminals: I will submit to jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court if you do,” fair challenge. They won’t take it, cowards wouldn’t. > [@OldOlds](#): > > I had the same thought, as it happens. I have never understood how and why Graham so completely capitulated to Trump. I’m not one prone to conspiracy theories, but it does make me wonder if Trump has something on him. There are feelings that Trump had compromat on a lot of people. > [@Akaj](#): > > And keep his mouth shut about it? OK, fair cop. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/19 "2023-06-01T09:55:32Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > There are feelings that Trump had compromat on a lot of people. Would not surprise me if Trump and Epstein had lots of it. But that’s a two way street. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773/20 "2023-06-01T10:16:07Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Not saying I believe it, but if it’s true, he could have learned something _interesting_ from the Russians. Wouldn’t that also preclude Graham mouthing off to Russia as he’s doing now? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lindsey-grahams-response-to-the-russians/984773.md?page=2)