# Lines you hate in a song you like

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 18, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654 "2018-04-18T18:09:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/21 "2018-04-18T22:56:10Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> For that to work, Jack would need one _really_ big head! :eek:

I know, but music often takes artistic license. 🆒

It was the best we could do with what we had to work with. Not a big fan of Johnny Cougar (Mellencamp). Why is rain on the scarecrow a bad thing? Why does it take 90% of I Need a Lover before the singing starts? 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/22 "2018-04-18T23:00:41Z")

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> [@jaycat](#):
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> Thanks for the info. It sure is a pretty song.

You’re welcome. Definitely a pretty song. I was just listening to it for the first time in years recently because I was made aware that the guy who wrote the song and was in _Cowboy_ died in February. ☹

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/23 "2018-04-19T02:11:41Z")

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Yeah, I have one. And it fucking pisses me off.

The song is **Girlfriend, by Matthew Sweet**. A great song - rocking groove, fun lyric about needing a girlfriend and digging you, a lead by Robert Quine. Yay!

And at the very end? The motherfiucker sings “…and i’m never gonna set you free. No no I’m never gonna set you free.”

End of song. What?

Who said it was okay to go Creepy Perv Criminal on us?

I _still_ argue with myself about whether it’s okay to like that song.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/n12OBlcHx9E/maxresdefault.jpg "Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12OBlcHx9E)

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/24 "2018-04-19T04:07:08Z")

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Johann Pachelbel’s C-major setting of Psalm 100 may sound nice, but the first word is repeated (at least in the bass part) three times quickly, then another three times quickly. For me, not being a native German speaker, the word “Jauchzet” is not simple to pronounce. And when I have to sing it three times fast, I guess I sound more or less “Yowza yowza yowza!”.

Which is probably not exactly how Mr. Taco Bell Cannon wanted it. 🙂

But it still bugs me.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/25 "2018-04-19T10:02:36Z")

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Moody Blues’ concept album _Days of Future Passed_ might be overbloated and pretentious, but it has some nice songs. But then they blow it in the closing poem with the line “ **senior citizens** wish they were young.” Couldn’t they come up with a less clinical word for “old people”?

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/26 "2018-04-19T10:09:29Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Moody Blues’ concept album _Days of Future Passed_ might be overbloated and pretentious, but it has some nice songs. But then they blow it in the closing poem with the line “ **senior citizens** wish they were young.” Couldn’t they come up with a less clinical word for “old people”?

There was a period of time when that was the polite term used by nearly everyone. I don’t know the album - is this line satirical, or straightforward?

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/27 "2018-04-19T12:27:55Z")

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Any sentence that uses the words “your sex” as in, “I want Your Sex” and “Your Sex Takes me to Paradise”. Skeevy, objectifying . . . just icky.

And, not a line, but in Rihanna’s _Love on the Brain_, which is a slowish, bluesy kind of song, apropos of nothing she let’s out an enthusiastic “Woo!” that sounds so out of place it embarrasses me for her.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/28 "2018-04-19T12:28:51Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Moody Blues’ concept album _Days of Future Passed_ might be overbloated and pretentious, but it has some nice songs. But then they blow it in the closing poem with the line “ **senior citizens** wish they were young.” Couldn’t they come up with a less clinical word for “old people”?

I agree, that really clunks.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/29 "2018-04-19T13:00:57Z")

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Oh, good, a chance to rant about a modern lyric which just slays me in its… ineptitude? Rudeness? Tone-deafness?

In the song “Meant to Be” by Florida/Georgia Line and Bebe Rexha, she (Bebe) sings:

“I don’t mean to be so uptight, but my heart’s been hurt a couple times  
By a couple guys that didn’t treat me right  
I ain’t gonna lie, ain’t gonna lie.  
'Cause I’m tired of the fake love, show me what you’re made of  
Boy, make me believe”

So, she’s had a few love affairs, is tired of all the stupid BS lines about her looks, and is asking this guy she is singing to at least _try_ to win her over.

His response? Let’s review it word by word from the perspective of someone who sang the above:

“Whoa.”

\*hmmm… not the most impressive of starts, but let’s continue… \*

“Hold up,…”

_Wow. Didn’t really like hearing what I told him. Told me to stop twice in a mere three words._

“… girl…”

\*That’s a word of respect! Though, to be honest, I did refer to him as ‘boy’ earlier… \*

“Don’t you know you’re beautiful…”

_Fuck. Another dipshit. Of course I know I’m beautiful, idiot. What do you think I meant by “fake love”?_

“… and it’s easy to see.”

\*Well, thanks for proving your just like all the other redneck assholes around here. Let me guess, in an hour you’re going to be slurring “your just sho hot, baby, letsh goes to my plashe”. Fuck you, asswipe. This will teach me for opening my heart to a dude in a fucking honkey-tonk. Didn’t you hear a goddamned word I said?"  
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Anyway, if the girl in the song still hooks up with the guy after _that_ response, the fault is far more on her than him. 😉

Oddly enough, the local pop stations have recently been playing this song without the guys lyrics. It goes from her saying the above then immediately into chorus. I have no idea why they would do this, either.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/30 "2018-04-19T13:33:23Z")

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I like the song “Jar of Hearts” by Christina Perri quite a bit. But parts of it are a little clunky:

> [@Christina Perri](#):
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> Who do you think you are?  
> Runnin’ 'round leaving scars  
> Collecting your jar of hearts  
> And tearing love apart  
> You’re gonna catch a cold  
> From the ice inside your soul

You’re gonna catch a cold? That’s right: you’re so awful that you’re going to have a minor illness. Maybe it’ll develop into a nasty cough that you need over the counter medication for! Take that!

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/31 "2018-04-19T13:37:51Z")

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Much as I love Billy Joel’s Piano Man, it bugs me that some of the verses have internal rhymes and some don’t. And the line “making love to his tonic and gin” is just creepy. So I changed them. The first two aren’t really any different, but I think I’ve really improved the third:

There’s an old man  
A glass in his hand  
Getting drunk on his tonic and gin.

If I could leave this bar  
Then I would be a star  
Why can’t I get the hell out of this place?

Yes, they drink to excess  
And to loneliness  
But it’s better than drinking alone.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/32 "2018-04-19T14:05:21Z")

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> [@DavidwithanR](#):
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> There was a period of time when that was the polite term used by nearly everyone. I don’t know the album - is this line satirical, or straightforward?

Straightforward. There’s nothing wrong with the phrase “senior citizens” _per se_, but in the context of “poetic” words like “Cold-hearted orb that rules the night” it definitely clunks.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/33 "2018-04-19T14:14:05Z")

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I don’t care for Paul McCartney’s “Live and Let Die,” but a lot of people do. Still, I cringe when I hear:

_But if this ever changin’ world  
In which we live in…_

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/34 "2018-04-19T14:26:10Z")

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> [@ZonexandScout](#):
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> I don’t care for Paul McCartney’s “Live and Let Die,” but a lot of people do. Still, I cringe when I hear:
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> _But if this ever changin’ world  
> In which we live in…_

I thought the line is “. . . in which _we’re livin_” 😕

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/35 "2018-04-19T15:00:38Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> I thought the line is “. . . in which _we’re livin_” 😕

It’s really difficult to tell. That’s what I believed the line was, but after listening to it many more times, I’m thinking perhaps it’s a little bit of revisionism or wishful thinking that he sang that and that the “in which we live in” people are right in that is what he sings.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/36 "2018-04-19T15:02:46Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Moody Blues’ concept album _Days of Future Passed_ might be overbloated and pretentious, but it has some nice songs. But then they blow it in the closing poem with the line “ **senior citizens** wish they were young.” Couldn’t they come up with a less clinical word for “old people”?

I’ve tripped on that line too. Like finishing the Mona Lisa by drawing her face with a Sharpie.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/37 "2018-04-19T16:11:26Z")

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Ooga chaka from Hooked on a feeling. Doesn’t fit the song at all

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/38 "2018-04-19T16:27:20Z")

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Eric Clapton’s “Wonderful Tonight” is ruined by that last verse when she has to drive his drunk ass home and drag him to bed. The romance is lost.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/39 "2018-04-19T16:34:24Z")

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> [@PlumBob](#):
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> Ooga chaka from Hooked on a feeling. Doesn’t fit the song at all

Yeah, the original BJ Thomas version, without the Ooga Chacka part, is so much better. What did surprise me recently, though, is that the Blue Swede cover that we’re all familiar with is not the first Ooga Chacka version. [Jonathan King](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNLo7OzNd_Q) was responsible for that particularl arrangement.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lines-you-hate-in-a-song-you-like/812654/40 "2018-04-19T17:01:01Z")

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When I was a teenager and Michael Sembello’s Maniac came on, you bet I was right on that dance floor. However, as I got older I listened to the actual words and, damn, that song made me mad.

_There’s a cold, kinetic heat. . ._ Every word makes the previous word more stupid. And then

_On the line between will and what will be. . ._ Between the what and the who now?

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