# Lingerie Barbie?  Ummm..no.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 23, 2002, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537 "2002-12-23T13:44:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/21 "2002-12-23T17:50:28Z")

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Why the fuss? This is merely the Second Coming of “Bild Lili”.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/22 "2002-12-23T18:13:43Z")

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> U.N. Weapons Inspector Barbie

I’m trying to picture a cross between Barbie and Hans Blix and it is just _not_ working.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/23 "2002-12-23T18:30:57Z")

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Well as long as I’m not seeing lingerie Elmo, there still is some good left in the world.

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/24 "2002-12-23T18:41:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SmileyDeath \*  
> \*\*I can’t wait until nudist camp barbie. \*\*

That would be all the Barbies my girls have at home. Many of them are actually, “nudist colony **headless** Barbie.”

🙂

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/25 "2002-12-23T18:49:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*Well as long as I’m not seeing lingerie Elmo, there still is some good left in the world. \*\*

[No good](http://www.pennsic.net/cgi-bin/pennsic/photos02.cgi?cat=Odd) left, I’m afraid. Or is that not what you were thinking of?

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**Author:** ![dragongirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@dragongirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dragongirl)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/26 "2002-12-23T20:12:37Z")

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[Here’s](http://www.barbiecollectables.com/showcase/series.asp?series_id=150034) where you can see a picture of Lingerie Barbie and the others in the collection.

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/27 "2002-12-23T20:15:40Z")

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**Ethilrist** -

I followed your link.

Good lord.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/28 "2002-12-23T20:19:59Z")

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Well, since nobody’s posted an actual link to the actual lingerie barbie yet, [here ya go.](http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/showcase/product.asp?type=&subtype=&product_id=1001848) Reasonably work-safe.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/29 "2002-12-23T20:35:12Z")

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Hey, my Barbie was doing Ken way back in 1965 when I was 7 years old, I really doubt that in 2003 a little lingerie is going to corrupt the kids.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/30 "2002-12-23T20:38:43Z")

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Actually, U.N. Weapons Inspector Barbie should have a leather ensemble available, seeing as how one of the U.S. inspectors has been reported to be big into the S/M scene.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/31 "2002-12-23T20:47:18Z")

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I don’t think it’s suprising. Barbie is a whore. I mean, that’s what she does. How else is she driving a lamburgini and living in a malibu beach house? Baking cookies? I don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/32 "2002-12-23T21:46:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> \*\*[No good](http://www.pennsic.net/cgi-bin/pennsic/photos02.cgi?cat=Odd) left, I’m afraid. Or is that not what you were thinking of? \*\*

\<looking up at sky\>  
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo…  
\</luas\>

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/33 "2002-12-23T21:50:43Z")

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[2000-2003](http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/showcase/results.asp?keywords=lingerie&x=21&y=0)

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/34 "2002-12-23T22:00:46Z")

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**Slainte** –wow–that looks like an excerpt from a risque episode of Captain Scarlet…

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**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/35 "2002-12-23T22:14:52Z")

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I agree with \*\*beagledave[/b[ on this one but I understand that YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/36 "2002-12-23T22:16:12Z")

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☹ I cannot code… sorry **beagledave**

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/37 "2002-12-24T00:18:59Z")

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Surely there’s an anatomically correct “Sexually Active Barbie” somewhere?

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**Author:** ![Essured](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Essured](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Essured)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/38 "2002-12-24T00:34:32Z")

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I don’t see what the problem is. It’s meant for adults. They aren’t marketing it to kids, stores aren’t placing it amongst all the ‘kid-friendly’ dolls so what’s the problem ? Anyone care to clarify what is wrong, because I feel like I’m being wooshed.

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**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/39 "2002-12-24T02:52:16Z")

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I’m wondering the same thing, \*\*Goo. \*\*

I collect Barbies too (although I haven’t been able to afford any in quite some time). There’s a distinct adult collector market, and this Lingerie Barbie is for that market. You won’t see it advertised on TV. You _might_ find it at Toys R Us sometime, but only because they carry quite a lot of adult collectible Barbies. But my guess is that it’ll stay at places like FAO Schwarz, the Barbie online site, or mail-order.

And like \*\*dragongirl \*\* and **GythaOgg** said, some collectors do re-dress their dolls (although I myself don’t). That’s most likely why they make reference to “dress and play.” They know the adults won’t actually _play_ with them like kids do, but they do know that some collectors will change the clothes on the doll.

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**Author:** ![Redboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@Redboss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redboss)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lingerie-barbie-ummm-no/144537/40 "2002-12-24T03:17:39Z")

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Yes that’s it. I find these lingerie Barbies (in the Silkstone range) quite unattractive. They have the hard face of the early Barbies. I don’t think many little girls get these ones.

But if you look quite dispassionately at the Mattell range, there is a wide range of Barbies, and many that offer a range of imaginative play possibilities.

**Duck Duck** dear, it wasn’t Mattell who yanked paleontolgoist and veterinarian Barbie off the shelves - it was the customers. Mattell are customer driven, and sweet cute stuff still appeals to little girls.

**Fairy Chat Mom** has it right - Barbies are not so much an inspiration, as an avenue of safe vicarious exploration for little girls. I think there are worse people around in the mass media than her and Mattell.

And if you actually watch the kids movies Rapunzel and Nutcracker, you’ll see that Barbie is consistently presented as a problem solver and rescuer. In Nutcracker she encourages her sister to keep working at her ballet and it is **she** that rescues the prince. Still a pretty crappy movie, but then I’m not a nine-year old little girl.

Brittney Spears has more to answer for than Barbie, I think.

Redboss

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