# Linking to hate speech, again

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/linking-to-hate-speech-again/1013441/22 "2025-01-27T01:40:37Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> This is a lot closer to some atheist telling a a religious person that they are lying and _don’t_ actually believe in a god, and in fact that _nobody_ believes in any gods. Which I’m pretty sure _would_ get modded for being hateful.
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> Also, the gender essentialists believe strongly in an “immutable gender identity”; they just think that _they_ are the ones who get to assign it and the person in question doesn’t get an opinion on the matter.

1. Disbelievers in gender identity are _not_ saying people are all lying about their feelings. We’re saying feelings are not the thing that determines whether a person is a man or a woman.

2. In [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-really-know-what-believers-believe-deep-down/797676/36) @Bill_Door implies that hardly any religious people really honestly believe in a god and @kanicbird opines that actually everybody really believes in a god but just don’t know it. Neither gets mod noted, and nobody does anything more strong than disagree. So I dispute your assertion that “nobody believes in any gods” would be mod noted on this board

3. Can’t say I care what “gender essentialists” think since I’m not one, and it’s not necessary to be one in order to think that gender identity is not a meaningful category

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