# Lion vs Tiger **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011 "2012-08-09T22:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/81 "2012-09-05T13:09:09Z")
Cool it, you two. Talk about the topic or give it a rest. ---
**Author:** ![Diamonds02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Diamonds02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diamonds02)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/82 "2012-09-05T13:14:53Z")
I smell an Asperger’s Syndrome diagnosis sometime in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@My\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/83 "2012-09-05T21:00:11Z")
I think this is a pretty cool find… [http://books.google.com/books?id=9-kaAAAAYAAJ&output=html\_text&pg=RA1-PA168&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&q=lions+better+fighters++tigers&cds=1&sig=ACfU3U3agVnfyTyZm5pVWmWtwVXe\_CIpAg&edge=0&edge=stretch&ci=100,115,807,504](http://books.google.com/books?id=9-kaAAAAYAAJ&output=html_text&pg=RA1-PA168&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&q=lions+better+fighters++tigers&cds=1&sig=ACfU3U3agVnfyTyZm5pVWmWtwVXe_CIpAg&edge=0&edge=stretch&ci=100,115,807,504) LIONS AND TIGERS. ## TWO lions and a tiger!" said Louis, A holding up a picture. “Aren’t they splendid-looking fellows? I wonder if they’re going to fight?” “The tiger would get the worst of it, I’m afraid,” answered the boy’s father as he examined the picture. "Two lions to one tiger are more than a match. They \ are splendid-looking fellows, that’s a fact. ) How grandly the artist has drawn them " ) “Don’t you think, papa, that the tiger • is a little scared?” ) “I shouldn’t wonder, for the two great .; lions look as if they were going to eat him ) up. But it isn’t likely they’d find that a 5 very easy thing to do, for a tiger is about / as strong as a lion, and more active. He’d j make a hard fight for his life, even with • two against him.” “I think he wants to get off,” said \> Louis. "You see that his head is set away from the lions; but they could catch ) him, I reckon.‘’ •{ “In a race the tiger would beat them. At a single bound he could go eighteen or \> twenty feet.” I “Then he’d better be off,” said Louis. “So I think. Running will be better for him than fighting. Two lions to one’ tiger are too much.” - Of course it has been shown that 1 lion is more than enough by people like Kailash sahnkala a Inidan Zoologist, an accounts like the Velar account, but as this man says…2 lions might be just too much for a tiger. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/84 "2012-09-05T22:02:16Z")
We will never find out what XD means, will we…☹ ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/85 "2012-09-05T22:54:22Z")
> [@My\_Lord](#): > > 400 is enough for me. Or would you like me to post a 120 accounts of lions killing tigers in Captivity an the wild…we arnt at, who can kill the other bit…they both have for thousands of years…we are in the bit of who has killed the other more…last time I checked the tiger had only around 30 wins..while the lion 120…doing the math rounding that sum out would put it 8/10 times the lion would win…unless you can present 120 times the tiger has killed the lion to get it at 50/50…then its going to stay at 8/10 times…sorry but thats how I see it. Well, but here’s the thing, My Lord. Are you reading any of your cites? Because in [this one in Post 51](http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png), after the Lion beats the Tiger and the Bear, a Horse–a plain old, frightened Horse–kicks the Lion’s ass. First in the breast, then in the forehead, to finish it off. See the rest of the story [here,](http://books.google.com/books?id=9e8jAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA281&lpg=PA281&dq=sir+thomas+lawrence+the+lion+and+tiger+first+entered+the+lists&source=bl&ots=2eAyMxidWm&sig=9h8D89TUral6jbGJ4bnivy90UzA&hl=en#v=onepage&q=sir%20thomas%20lawrence%20the%20lion%20and%20tiger%20first%20entered%20the%20lists&f=false) on page 282. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@My\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/86 "2012-09-05T23:16:48Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Well, but here’s the thing, My Lord. > Are you reading any of your cites? > > Because in [this one in Post 51](http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png), after the Lion beats the Tiger and the Bear, a Horse–a plain old, frightened Horse–kicks the Lion’s ass. First in the breast, then in the forehead, to finish it off. > > See the rest of the story [here,](http://books.google.com/books?id=9e8jAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA281&lpg=PA281&dq=sir+thomas+lawrence+the+lion+and+tiger+first+entered+the+lists&source=bl&ots=2eAyMxidWm&sig=9h8D89TUral6jbGJ4bnivy90UzA&hl=en#v=onepage&q=sir%20thomas%20lawrence%20the%20lion%20and%20tiger%20first%20entered%20the%20lists&f=false) on page 282. - Yup I knew that…I figure not mentioning it because this is a lion vs tiger thread, not Horse vs lion, but if you’d wish to know more I can give you alot of accounts of a horse managing to kill a lion an a tiger an even grizzley bears…jeez I can give you 4 accounts of a Donkey killing a tiger would you like to see? But the fact is the lion got killed by that horse because the lion just fought a long fight with a Bear an Tiger, an killed both something very rare indeed, so its not like the lion was fresh in vitality an set upoun the horse. But I would root more for the Horse anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![My\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@My\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/87 "2012-09-05T23:37:26Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > Well, but here’s the thing, My Lord. > Are you reading any of your cites? > > Because in [this one in Post 51](http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png), after the Lion beats the Tiger and the Bear, a Horse–a plain old, frightened Horse–kicks the Lion’s ass. First in the breast, then in the forehead, to finish it off. > > See the rest of the story [here,](http://books.google.com/books?id=9e8jAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA281&lpg=PA281&dq=sir+thomas+lawrence+the+lion+and+tiger+first+entered+the+lists&source=bl&ots=2eAyMxidWm&sig=9h8D89TUral6jbGJ4bnivy90UzA&hl=en#v=onepage&q=sir%20thomas%20lawrence%20the%20lion%20and%20tiger%20first%20entered%20the%20lists&f=false) on page 282. - ## Horse Ko’s adult male tiger [St. Nicholas - Google Books](http://books.google.com/books?id=5rJNAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA878&lpg=PA873&ots=_dDmlkN150&dq=lion+kill+tiger+fight+won+of+bowstock&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) ## Black donkey kills 2 tigers [Journal of the China Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society for the Year ... - Google Books](http://books.google.com/books?id=FqNDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=black+donkey+kicks+tiger+kill&source=bl&ots=Gr5j0y_VTT&sig=ddeiL09hi-ymNHixs4vQcWE352Y&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ozU7UN3uHur6igLfqID4Cg&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAA) ## George Conklins circus memoir a Donkey kicks a tiger to night night. [Read book online: Literature books,novels,short stories,fiction,non-fiction, poems,essays,plays,Pulitzer prize, Nobel prize](http://www.readbookonline.net/read/53518/99655/) - You see my frindo…you shouldent under estimate horses an Donkeys, they can defend themselves exceptionally well, an as that say goes, theres nothing like Horse Power lol ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/88 "2012-09-06T01:47:51Z")
I’m surprised we’ve made it to page 2 without somebody posting [this classic](http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/89 "2012-09-06T01:55:23Z")
My money’s on the cheetah. Any light to shed on that, M’Lord? ---
**Author:** ![Crab\_Rangoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Crab\_Rangoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crab_Rangoon)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/90 "2012-09-06T01:59:51Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > I’m surprised we’ve made it to page 2 without somebody posting [this classic](http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/). 😃 Thanks for my bedtime laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/91 "2012-09-06T02:11:06Z")
Steelers \> Lions 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/92 "2012-09-06T02:12:06Z")
To address the most important issue in this thread, [this](http://beatsperminute.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Cartman.jpeg) is what XD represents. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@My\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/93 "2012-09-06T03:23:40Z")
The Big Cage with Clyde Beatty [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pTyHvXRcY_s/hqdefault.jpg "Tiger vs Lion (Real fight)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTyHvXRcY_s) Heres the article to that movie… . 2 tigers died, In the the big cage tiger from a lion-(Video) [![](http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/f4826dc5d50606ed235b18234caf25ad70d5e4a2_r.jpg) ](http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/f4826dc5d50606ed235b18234caf25ad70d5e4a2_r.jpg) ## An heres a abstract from Clyde Beattys book… Clyde beatty’s circus act Ceasar the lion kill’s bobby the tiger. “Down sprang Caesar, determined to seize the offensive, but before he could do so, Bobby had battled his way through Caesar’s paws, grabbed his mane so stubbornly that he couldn’t move. For the next couple of minutes each struggled and strained for an advantage, but Bobby’s hold was so tenacious that they only succeeded in twisting a little. With the cameras continuing to grind and getting nothing but a little harmless tug of war… Energy spent, the exhausted Bobby tried to roll away from Caesar, but Caesar’s hold now was as firm as Bobby’s which had been on his mane. Seeing this turn in affairs, I dashed into the cage. Already Caesar’s jaws had crunched Bobby’s neck and when I got there Caesar was shaking Bobby’s limp, bloody head and throat from side to side. Bobby’s eyes were turning starey. He was dead and it was only two minutes since I was keenly sorry that I had done it, but in thinking it over I became convinced that my part had been negligible. The lion is frequently the superior; he doubtless would have been the winner in this case no matter what I had done.” I find it funny that theres around 20 edited videos on the web saying either, hey this is a female bengal tiger that killed a male nubian lion, or yo this a summatran tiger that F’d up a huge african lion an the lion died after…it just dosent make sense, for one the owner of that tiger [Clyde beatty said his name was Bobby, (A guys name) an #2 Clyde an the staff all said the lion won…not to mention there was 3 tigers used in this movie, the first 2 died so fast that they couldent show it because they wouldent have passed the regulation of whats presentable to socioty, of a grusome one way maul. :whistling ---
**Author:** ![My\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@My\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/94 "2012-09-06T06:06:44Z")
## Lion kills 3 Tigers lion kills three tiger’s Source: Altoona Mirror, September 27. 1928 [![](https://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/lionvstigeraccount4.jpg) ](https://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k625/Leofwin/lionvstigeraccount4.jpg) [http://www.raden-saleh.org/enlionsandtigerfighting.jpg](http://www.raden-saleh.org/enlionsandtigerfighting.jpg) ## This account stores some giant quanitys of Solar power upoun me (Superman) when I read it…its uncanny in how this took place as it does look like a tribute artifact more so the account, I could be wrong, but this man sounds as of speaking of a circus event, though the picture looks in open feilds, but circus dosent mean the tent type of modern days it could be the other circus implemations for the word circus was already used in the Roman days of the gladitorial events as in Circus Maximus. But all in all this account is probbaly the most hig end feat so far. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/95 "2012-09-06T10:08:10Z")
> [@toofs](#): > > Cite? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![My\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@My\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/96 "2012-09-06T10:46:02Z")
## 2 Teen Lions Maul Adult Tiger 2011 two teen lions killed a adult male tiger in an enclosure.(Video)- Youtube- ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TNlRBGq3rmk/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/TNlRBGq3rmk?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque One of the worker’s were on break, an went down the road to a store taking the key’s to the gate an car they usually break up minor scruffle’s with, when two… 1.5 year old boy cub’s chased around an harrased a adult male bengal tiger, until he colapsed from exaustion, [![](https://i.imgur.com/rUyZN.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/rUyZN.jpg) He tried despertaly to protect himself… [![](https://i.imgur.com/8zr8Q.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/8zr8Q.jpg) but the two 1.5 year old brother’s showed no mercy, the tiger roared with hurendous moan’s in agony, after on looker’s shouted for the lion’s to stop shortly after one got a hold of his throat an took his life… [![](https://i.imgur.com/sApCb.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/sApCb.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/97 "2012-09-06T15:09:59Z")
Everyone needs a niche. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/98 "2012-09-06T17:00:18Z")
I couldn’t quite tell from this thread but have you seen the North Korean Lion V Tiger fights? They make them fight at the zoo, because North Koreans are strange. See for example [Animal's fights(Lion vs Tiger,Lion vs Bear,Shepard dog vs Poongsan dog) - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bif9t2pvk74) It’s not obvious to me which one really counts as winning but I would say the tiger. The lion totally pwns the bear too. So assuming well ordering, a tiger would rip a bear to shreds. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/99 "2012-09-06T17:53:10Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > We will never find out what XD means, will we…☹ It’s a laughing face. The person is laughing so hard their eyes are closed. > **[Urban Dictionary: XD](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=XD)** > > XD: XD is a \[laughing\] \[face\]. Above link has visual evidence. A tiger would totally beat a lion at prett much everything. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lion-vs-tiger/631011/100 "2012-09-06T17:54:57Z")
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