# Lipstick marks on window- so awful?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 10, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514 "2007-12-10T19:06:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/41 "2007-12-10T23:30:14Z")

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Wait a minute.  
After her apartment was cleaned by ridiculously conscientious party guests, even doing the dishes, and cleaning up whatever was around (bottles, cups, cans, board games, dead hookers, whatever the fun for the evening was), she gets OUTRAGED over a lipstick message because some arbitrary amount of cleaning won’t get it off a window? Christ. this woman needs more chill pills at the next party, or something.

That all said, I’d go over, apologize, and clean the thing. But man, she needs to sit down and talk SOMETHING out if this is such a big deal after 99% of the cleaning work was done.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/42 "2007-12-10T23:52:10Z")

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I think it was very funny (this from a guy who had lipstick applied to all windows of his car as a birthday present), if you saw the redrum movie together or you joke about that kind of stuff. The going through his drawer part, not so much. Then again, the kind of friends I normally have at home and with whom I feel comfortable going for a shower while they clean are the kind of friends I don’t mind opening my drawers.

Apologize, be direct and be light. This should be no biggie.

I am curious about the fact that you are the only one close enough to know where her lipstick is, but she bitches to someone else before talking to you. Did that person know it was you? Did she say so?

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/43 "2007-12-10T23:53:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Santo Rugger]  
Just give her back the $20, take her to a $20 lunch, and all will be forgiven.  
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_starts stopwatch_

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/44 "2007-12-11T01:45:06Z")

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[QUOTE=enigm4tic]  
Wait a minute.  
After her apartment was cleaned by ridiculously conscientious party guests, even doing the dishes, and cleaning up whatever was around (bottles, cups, cans, board games, dead hookers, whatever the fun for the evening was), she gets OUTRAGED over a lipstick message because some arbitrary amount of cleaning won’t get it off a window? Christ. this woman needs more chill pills at the next party, or something.  
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Totally agree. I’ve had a single guest puke in almost every room of the house (that was fun to find in the morning). Lipstick on the mirror and a sparkling apartment? I wish I had such problems.

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**Author:** ![ThirdCultureKid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@ThirdCultureKid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThirdCultureKid)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/45 "2007-12-11T02:24:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Waverly]  
Seriously? Have you ever seen that body lotion with glitter in it? Once you brush up against _that_ stuff there is no getting it off. You’ll be living with if for the rest of the day at the very least, and may still find a stray sparkle in odd places for a week afterwards. Anyway, I think it’s too big a job for a single razorblade and seems to require a large kitchen knife. I was too nervous (and quick) to undergo the procedure, and the GF didn’t seem to be concentrating that well, but I think it works the same way.  
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I was trying to make a lame joke that, after discovering lipstick on your collar, your GF might have had over motivations for getting a razor blade as close to your jugular as possible. I have myself used the razor trick for the exact same sticky, glitterly stuff you describe, it was just the words “damn intent” that sent me over the edge.

Note to self: No, you are _not_ funny.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/46 "2007-12-11T02:28:16Z")

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[QUOTE=ThirdCultureKid]  
I was trying to make a lame joke that…  
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I already made that joke. Twice. Of course I had to be my own straight man the first time, but I love you guys so much that I’m willing to put in the effort.

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**Author:** ![ThirdCultureKid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@ThirdCultureKid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThirdCultureKid)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/47 "2007-12-11T02:37:51Z")

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:smack:  
This is what I get for studying and reading the SDMB at the same time. Carry on.

Slinks away, wondering if alcohol would facilitate comprehension

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/48 "2007-12-11T02:55:21Z")

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I wouldn’t have reacted the way the host did, but your actions would have been a WTF moment for me. If I found out who did it, that person would likely not be invited back into my home.

Can I ask how old the group is? If it is twenty somethings, then I guess I would let it slide.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/49 "2007-12-11T03:04:44Z")

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I’ll bet it wasn’t the lipstick, or at least not by itself.

I’ll bet it was all those shots of cold water blasting out of the showerhead while the guests were cleaning up and doing dishes and the hostess was showering.

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lipstick-marks-on-window-so-awful/429514/50 "2007-12-11T20:44:43Z")

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> [@NightRabbit](#):
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> She considered it vandalism and a huge symbol of disrespect of her apartment and that she scrubbed at it for 15 minutes and can’t get it off the window, that she feels violated that someone rifled through her drawers to find lipstick, and that she never wants to host another party again.
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> Were someone to write something on a mirror or my window in lipstick, and I found it later, I’d probably be relatively amused, scrub it off, and inquire about it the next day. I definitely wouldn’t feel violated, disrespected, or vandalized.

It sounds to me like you’re only focusing the the lipstick writing, which may not be what your friend is angry about.

It was reported your friend said you disrespected her apartment and violated her privacy. I think it’s very possible the fact that you dug through her stuff and thought it was ok to deface her property, using her property, that bothered her more. I know for me that would be the case. If it were me and you wrote on my mirror using your own lipstick, I would be more amused than upset.

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