# Lissener finally comes clean as to what he really is.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678 "2006-12-11T13:51:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/21 "2006-12-11T17:40:34Z")

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I agree with Airman Doors, lissener’s post about “dance, monkey, dance” was an obvious confession of trollery on his part. I don’t see how a reasonable person could read it any other way.

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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/22 "2006-12-11T17:45:09Z")

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[QUOTE=McNew]  
By the same token, \*Showgirls \* on HDTV is as much of an oxymoronic ludicrosity. Can you \*smell \* the funk coming from Gina Gershon’s nethers? No! Can you \*feel \* the slap of Elizabeth Berkley’s funbags upside your head? No!  
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Exactly! No “show,” no “girls,” just a flat representation of real life. A ludicrosity indeed.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/23 "2006-12-11T17:48:15Z")

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[QUOTE=McNew]  
Can you \*smell \* the funk coming from Gina Gershon’s nethers? No! Can you \*feel \* the slap of Elizabeth Berkley’s funbags upside your head? No!  
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Try the Sony.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/24 "2006-12-11T18:39:09Z")

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[QUOTE=McNew]  
Can you \*smell \* the funk coming from Gina Gershon’s nethers? No! Can you \*feel \* the slap of Elizabeth Berkley’s funbags upside your head? No!  
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Sure wish I could, though.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/25 "2006-12-11T19:05:58Z")

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[QUOTE=zut]  
Well, _there’s_ your problem. **Lissener** wasn’t talking about sports, per se. He was calling “sports on HDTV” an “oxymoronic ludicrosity.” And he’s right!

Sports on HDTV aren’t really sports! They’re a 2D construct, a representation, an image. Can you _smell_ the dirt and sweat of the players on HDTV? No! Can you _feel_ the slap of the dodgeball upside your head? No!

Sports are meant to be _experienced_: smelled, and felt, and tasted. The pale construct represented on HDTV isn’t “sports.” It’s a ludicrosity.

And you’d do well to remember that.  
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But why _HD_TV in particular? It’s just as far removed from the authentic experience on the RCA of my youth as it is in the showroom at Paul’s King of Bigscreen.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/26 "2006-12-11T19:11:15Z")

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[QUOTE=monstro]  
This is retarded ludicrosity.

I don’t know which is worse, **lissener’s** obvious trollery or your long-winded, pedantic analysis. At least **lissener’s** comment was kinda funny, in junior-high kind of way.  
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_De gustibus_, I guess. I enjoyed the deconstruction more than I did the original thread-crap.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/27 "2006-12-11T19:37:38Z")

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I don’t think **lissener** is a troll, but he certainly seemed to be trolling then. Sadly the rules don’t differentiate between the two.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/28 "2006-12-11T19:45:27Z")

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[QUOTE=zut]  
Exactly! No “show,” no “girls,” just a flat representation of real life. A ludicrosity indeed.  
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My chances of seeing Gina Gershon nude in real life are so miniscule that they can’t be measured with 21st century technology. I’ll take a 2D representation as the next best thing. Lacking as it may be, it is of the same order of magnitude better than no nude Gina Gershon at all.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/29 "2006-12-11T20:05:51Z")

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[QUOTE=FinnAgain]  
I am convinced that people like **Lissener** will, eventually, drive the development of new technologies. Technologies which will, in time, allow you to punch someone in the mouth via the internet.  
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I laughed out loud as I formed the visual on this one!

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**Author:** ![lokij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@lokij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lokij)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/30 "2006-12-11T20:21:32Z")

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[QUOTE=FinnAgain]  
I am convinced that people like **Lissener** will, eventually, drive the development of new technologies. Technologies which will, in time, allow you to punch someone in the mouth via the internet.  
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I pray every day that this breakthrough will come. Dear OG do I pray…

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/31 "2006-12-11T20:25:51Z")

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The emperor is naked. Film at 11.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/32 "2006-12-11T20:40:19Z")

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[QUOTE=monstro]  
…I don’t know which is worse, **lissener’s** obvious trollery or your long-winded, pedantic analysis. At least **lissener’s** comment was kinda funny, in junior-high kind of way.  
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Well, if you don’t _know_, copy off your buddy’s paper. You won’t get caught.

Actually you’ve got a point. Tell you what: from now on I’ll begin all my posts with a fart joke. That will give you something to chortle at (quietly, please) while anyone who _likes_ long-winded and pedantic analysis goes on to read the other, longer parts. That way, fewer people will feel that I’m shirking my obligation to entertain them.

Okay, **Airman** , it’s not about you, or sports, or HDTV: it’s just another episode of _Pro-Bono Troll Hunter_. Carry on, and when it’s over I’ll be the one saying, “…and we never got a chance to thank him.”

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/33 "2006-12-11T21:48:41Z")

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Wait, people are upset that lissener seemed to thread fart in a …Cafe Society thread? No? A MPSIMS thread? No? An IMHO thread? No? A General Questions thread? No? A Great Debates thread? No?

\*\*A…wait, hold on…lissener gets Pitted because he crapped in a PIT THREAD??? \*\*

_giggle_

Was **Ideocracy** a documentary?

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/34 "2006-12-11T22:01:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
Wait, people are upset that lissener seemed to thread fart in a …Cafe Society thread? No? A MPSIMS thread? No? An IMHO thread? No? A General Questions thread? No? A Great Debates thread? No?

\*\*A…wait, hold on…lissener gets Pitted because he crapped in a PIT THREAD??? \*\*

_giggle_

Was **Ideocracy** a documentary?  
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He has made it a clean sweep, every forum crapped in. The occasion deserved some sort of acknowledgement.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/35 "2006-12-11T22:17:39Z")

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[QUOTE=The King of Soup]  
Okay, **Airman** , it’s not about you, or sports, or HDTV: it’s just another episode of _Pro-Bono Troll Hunter_. Carry on, and when it’s over I’ll be the one saying, “…and we never got a chance to thank him.”  
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I didn’t even have to hunt. He came to me.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/36 "2006-12-11T22:24:13Z")

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Somebody pissed off **Airman**? Laid-back, easy-going **Airman**? Hard to grasp, its like visualizing Sheriff Andy of Mayberry pistol-whipping Otis.

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**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/37 "2006-12-11T22:25:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]

Was **Ideocracy** a documentary?  
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A documentary about rule or government based on ideology or theory? Like _Triumph of the Will_ ?

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/38 "2006-12-11T22:35:39Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Somebody pissed off **Airman**? Laid-back, easy-going **Airman**? Hard to grasp, its like visualizing Sheriff Andy of Mayberry pistol-whipping Otis.  
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Wait ‘till you see it in HD. There’s practically blood and teeth in your living room. 😃

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/39 "2006-12-11T22:38:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Cluricaun]  
Wait ‘till you see it in HD. There’s practically blood and teeth in your living room. 😃  
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With redder blood and…greener teeth?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-finally-comes-clean-as-to-what-he-really-is/383678/40 "2006-12-11T22:50:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
\*\*A…wait, hold on…lissener gets Pitted because he crapped in a PIT THREAD??? \*\*

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I am pretty sure that he got pitted because he admitted to trolling in a Pit thread. (Glances up at thread title.) Yep. That was it.

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