# lissener needs an education in The New Way of the Dope

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 2, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944 "2009-03-02T00:46:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/21 "2009-03-02T03:21:07Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Don’t take the bait people(for his own good) he is just setting up a strawman for his personal crusades. He wants a license to citizen mod against others critiquing his stuff.

You dumb.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/22 "2009-03-02T03:22:15Z")

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> [@Seeker of Truth & Beauty](#):
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> I’ve read the entire thread in CS, and honestly, **lissener,** I don’t think you deserved the Modding. Yes, the first post was snarky, but I laughed. The second post, the one actually quoted by **Marley,** I have no problem with. No problem at all.
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> I swear, I don’t know what’s come over these boards lately. Y’all need to unbunch your panties.

You smart.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/23 "2009-03-02T03:25:18Z")

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> [@Seeker of Truth & Beauty](#):
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> I’ve read the entire thread in CS, and honestly, **lissener,** I don’t think you deserved the Modding. Yes, the first post was snarky, but I laughed. The second post, the one actually quoted by **Marley,** I have no problem with. No problem at all.
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> I swear, I don’t know what’s come over these boards lately. Y’all need to unbunch your panties.

So, the standard the board should adhere to is whether or not…you, and not just a general you but you, **Seeker of Truth & Beauty** , laughed?

The new Pit rules have _nothing to do with this_. It has always been thus in the non-Pit forums.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/24 "2009-03-02T03:28:12Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> So, the standard the board should adhere to is whether or not…you, and not just a general you but you, **Seeker of Truth & Beauty** , laughed?

The standard this board should adhere to, because it sorely needs it, is LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP, PEOPLE!

Geez.

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/25 "2009-03-02T03:29:47Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> So, the standard the board should adhere to is whether or not…you, and not just a general you but you, **Seeker of Truth & Beauty** , laughed?
> 
> The new Pit rules have nothing to do with this. It has always been thus in the non-Pit forums.

I’m not talking (specifically) about the new Pit rules. I’m talking about the general state of the Message Board lately. Seems the Mods are just generally losing their shit.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/26 "2009-03-02T03:31:34Z")

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> [@neutron\_star](#):
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> LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP, PEOPLE!

When you’re yelling about how everyone needs to lighten the fuck up, you know you just got hit with the irony stick.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/27 "2009-03-02T03:35:59Z")

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I’m not really mad about it. I post elsewhere more than I post here these days. But it needed to be [del]said[/del]yelled.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/28 "2009-03-02T03:40:28Z")

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Wow. **lissener** being a huge flaming asshole. Next you’ll be telling me that the sun will rise tomorrow and that bears empty their bowels in the woods.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/29 "2009-03-02T03:41:03Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Huh? I disagree. I’ve had serious problems with **lissener** in the past, and I think he behaved poorly here, but I’ve never known him to be scheming or dishonest.

Just call it personal experience. People generaly want to know the line so they can lawyer around it.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/30 "2009-03-02T04:15:38Z")

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You know, what with all the goings-on going on, I really think everybody _needed_ another **lissener** Pit thread at the moment. There’s some analogy about a fart at a funeral that seemed apt but the details escape me at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/31 "2009-03-02T04:24:58Z")

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Honestly, lissener is confused because Marley cited the wrong post for threadshitting. His first post was more shitty than the cited one. IMO.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/32 "2009-03-02T04:42:53Z")

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I don’t really care that you pissed on the CS thread in question. I’ce decided you’re a prick because you broke your whining down into neatly numbered and bulleted lists.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/33 "2009-03-02T04:44:11Z")

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Helpful reference for future participation in threads you aren’t interested in: [I suck at using tact. How do I learn it?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10863757&postcount=30)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/34 "2009-03-02T06:58:04Z")

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Maybe its just me but the pattern seems to be:

1)Short obnoxious uncalled for post.  
2)Long explaination about why short obnoxious post was not a short obnoxious post.  
3)Whining when no one agrees with #2.

Did I get that right?

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/35 "2009-03-02T07:02:03Z")

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But that’s what makes **lissener** great. 😃

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**Author:** ![Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Seeker\_of\_Truth\_and\_Beauty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/36 "2009-03-02T07:02:18Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Maybe its just me but the pattern seems to be:
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> 1)Short obnoxious uncalled for post.  
> 2)Long explaination about why short obnoxious post was not a short obnoxious post.  
> 3)Whining when no one agrees with #2.
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> Did I get that right?

You forgot

1. Profit!!

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/37 "2009-03-02T07:19:12Z")

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**Lissener** , as much as your first post in that thread was so goddamn on-the-money it isn’t even funny, that was still some pretty blatant threadshitting. There isn’t a big enough eye-roll smiley in existence for that conversation topic, in my opinion, but they’re allowed to have it without being openly ridiculed in CS.

I have a friend who has [the fucking blueprints for the starship enterprise](http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Generation-Technical-Unnumbered/dp/0671704273/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235977784&sr=1-8). He gets no mercy from me. But if he were in CS, I’d have to leave him alone. 😃

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/38 "2009-03-02T07:36:28Z")

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[Um, because it’s pretend?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508709)

I like how the response is phrased as a question, just in case it turns out that Gandalf’s magic sword isn’t really pretend after all.

A careful reading of **lissener** ’s justification reveals that the real crime was not just threadshitting, but also the much worse offense of assuming that Peter Jackson’s movies are perfect reflections of Tolkien’s authorial intent. That be crazy. Not even molluscs think that.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/39 "2009-03-02T07:46:15Z")

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Speaking of confusion over new rules, shouldn’t this thread be in ATMB instead of the Pit to begin with?

(Phrased as a question, just in case Gandalf has decreed it otherwise.)

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-needs-an-education-in-the-new-way-of-the-dope/487944/40 "2009-03-02T08:25:57Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Speaking of confusion over new rules, shouldn’t this thread be in ATMB instead of the Pit to begin with?

\<mod\> Yeah, I think it should. However, some of the responding posts make it clearly Pit territory. So I’m just gonna close it, and the OP can open another thread in ATMB if he so desires.\<mod\>

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