# lissener, you're a shitstain. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344 "2007-06-09T04:25:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/121 "2007-06-12T12:11:29Z")
[QUOTE=Fuji] Actually, I thought that the aliens were the main protagonists of the movie. To me, the human actors essentially served the role of flashy props. [/QUOTE] That’s the problem. None of the actors mentioned above would have allowed that to happen. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/122 "2007-06-12T12:14:38Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] Surely the Bugs were antagonists? 😃 [/QUOTE] I don’t wish to know more. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/123 "2007-06-12T15:09:29Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] He did get better. He seems to be slipping, though. [/QUOTE] In fairness, he gets tweaked about it on a semi-regular basis. I’m afraid I couldn’t point you to any examples, but Verhoeven and **lissener** ’s opinion of him has become a running joke he’s been jabbed with not more than a few times with little provocation since his return. I think **lissener** ’s a douche and to a large extent brought it on himself, but I’ve seen some pokes at him that I didn’t think were wholly warranted. I’d probably get surly again too. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/124 "2007-06-12T15:19:20Z")
[QUOTE=BayleDomon] I think **lissener** ’s a douche and to a large extent brought it on himself, but I’ve seen some pokes at him that I didn’t think were wholly warranted. I’d probably get surly again too. [/QUOTE] There were two solid pages of evidence of active douchebaggery before anyone brought up Verhoeven. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/125 "2007-06-12T15:26:33Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] There were two solid pages of evidence of active douchebaggery before anyone brought up Verhoeven. [/QUOTE] I meant since he was unbanned. Been several months since then, which is why I’m reticent about finding examples. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/126 "2007-06-12T15:43:10Z")
[QUOTE=BayleDomon] I meant since he was unbanned. Been several months since then, which is why I’m reticent about finding examples. [/QUOTE] \*\*Lissener \*\* was unbanned in October 2005. > **[Lissener has been reinstated.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339900)** > > See above. TubaDiva While he does get twitted about _Showgirls_ on occasion, in the ensuing 21 months he has been the subject of at least 6 Pittings, none of which had anything to do with his affection for Verhoeven. Most had to do with him being an asshole on entirely unrelated subjects. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/127 "2007-06-12T15:59:00Z")
Oh, so it’s been almost 2 years? Does becoming unbanned grant special powers like being undead? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/128 "2007-06-12T16:15:31Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] Does becoming unbanned grant special powers like being undead? [/QUOTE] If **lissener** is any guide, they are certainly unable to see themselves as others see them. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/129 "2007-06-12T17:13:03Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] Oh, so it’s been almost 2 years? Does becoming unbanned grant special powers like being undead? [/QUOTE] Indeed. Might I refer you to the cinematic classic, " 28 Lisseners Later " for guidance as to how to handle zombies? ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/130 "2007-06-12T17:57:08Z")
[QUOTE=Hamlet] Chaucer was a plagarizing piece of garbage. “Béowulf maþelode, 'Ecgþéowes Nelyf s,élre bið aéghwaém úre aéghwylc sceal ende gebídan” or, as translated: "After the death of Grendel, Beowulf looked up and spied Grendel’s mother, after which he turned to Edgetheow and said “It’s just one damned dragon-thing after another.” [/QUOTE] Imitation, and not even flattering. > [@The Bible](#): > > 1: Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. > 2: And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. > 3: So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation, saying “It’s just one damned thing after another.” ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/131 "2007-06-12T21:44:30Z")
I notice that \*\*lissener \*\* hasn’t been around since I last posted, and even though I disagree with him, think of him as abrassive and oppinionated, it’s still uncool to try to rile him about \*Showgirls \* and _Verhoeven_. If he’s being an asshole, then it won’t matter, if not - it’ll matter even less. I also think that his reinstatement included clauses about him not debating Verhoeven, but IMBW. My POA is: Don’t bait him. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/132 "2007-06-12T21:52:31Z")
[QUOTE=Charlie Tan] I notice that \*\*lissener \*\* hasn’t been around since I last posted, … [/quote] He is seriously, as mentioned in passing above [posting by candlelight](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=423932), or to be more accurate, posting when it’s slow at work. > [@](#): > > I also think that his reinstatement included clauses about him not debating Verhoeven, but IMBW. There was for a short time after his reinstatement, a sort of unofficial one-off kind of rule about posters sneaking up behind him and shouting, “Verhoeven!” in his ear. That may be what you’re remembering. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/133 "2007-06-12T23:49:14Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] There was for a short time after his reinstatement, a sort of unofficial one-off kind of rule about posters sneaking up behind him and shouting, “Verhoeven!” in his ear. [/QUOTE] Why I love the Dope, Part Six Bajillion and Three – it’s a place where there can be unofficial “No-Verhoeven-baiting” rules … instituted and respected. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/134 "2007-06-13T00:14:40Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] There was for a short time after his reinstatement, a sort of unofficial one-off kind of rule about posters sneaking up behind him and shouting, “Verhoeven!” in his ear. [/QUOTE] That was no **lissener** -baiting – that was my Jerry Lewis impression! Froinlavin! ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/135 "2007-06-13T00:25:27Z")
Verhoeven’s sakes, will you quit picking on **Lissener** ’s execrable tastes?! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/136 "2007-06-13T00:44:01Z")
[QUOTE=Polycarp] Verhoeven’s sakes, will you quit picking on **Lissener** ’s execrable tastes?! :smack: [/QUOTE] All I did was say to my wife, “That piece of halibut was good enough for Verhoven!” _THUD!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/137 "2007-06-13T01:49:20Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] _Showgirls_ is such an utterly perfect parody of a bad movie that only the cognoscenti are able to perceive that it is actually a masterpiece. Anyone who does not agree with this is obviously a moron. [/QUOTE] and [QUOTE=Colibri] This is really classic **lissener**. He not only asserts that his opinion is the only possible valid one, he also accuses anyone who disagrees with him of calling him a liar. [/QUOTE] You’ve not got the full flavour. It’s not a matter of disagreeing. There is no room to disagree. Lissener has simply stated a fact. A given. It’s simply unbelievable that it is a fact you are not aware of. There’s no point arguing about it. He was there at the time and this was a given back then, and you are surely not suggesting he is lying about what occurred. There’s simply nothing to agree or disagree about, that debate has already occurred and been decided. The only thing left to do is state the outcome, which Lissener has. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/138 "2007-06-13T03:32:39Z")
[QUOTE=Princhester] You’ve not got the full flavour. [/QUOTE] Are you calling me a liar? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/139 "2007-06-13T06:35:32Z")
Of course. What option do I have? You have simply stated an untruth. I’m a prisoner to the facts as they exist. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344/140 "2007-06-13T11:16:40Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] Why I love the Dope, Part Six Bajillion and Three – it’s a place where there can be unofficial “No-Verhoeven-baiting” rules … instituted and respected. [/QUOTE] No kidding. Back in the AOL days there was the " John Landis Corollary " and gosh, did people lose their head over that one ! :eek: 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissener-youre-a-shitstain/407344.md?page=8)