# Lissner banned? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674 "2004-10-11T17:40:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/21 "2004-10-11T18:44:21Z")
My Goodness. That’s gotta be the most pointless banning since that guy who posted a joke thread in IMHO, which got moved to The Pit, and he got banned since no joke threads are allowed in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/22 "2004-10-11T18:46:57Z")
Just my WAG, but I think he may have been done in, partially at least, by forgetting which forum he was in. His “asshole” comment was made fairly early in the thread and it’s possible he could have forgotten he wasn’t in the Pit. I spend most of my time in the Pit and I have on occasion blurted out an insult in a GD or Cafe Society thread just out of force of habit. So far I’ve been lucky and no one’s called me on it, but you have to be careful if you spend a lot of time in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/23 "2004-10-11T18:47:59Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [One](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=265602&page=1&pp=50&highlight=american+bull) [issue](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=271475&page=2&highlight=ivylass)? Heh. Similarly, if someone wants to search back several months, there’s the thread in which he got incredibly rude and pompous when people (including myself) suggested that dogs could be bred for behavioral traits. No matter how many scientific cites we showed him to back up our commonsense conclusions (that, e.g., golden retrievers were likelier to play catch than Australian sheepdogs, and that Aussies were likelier to be good at herding sheep), he dismissed them and pitied us for being unable to see past our stereotypes and compared us to people who claimed that white people were genetically superior to black people. He’s an offensive, narrowminded idiot on the boards. Maybe he’s a nice guy in real life, but his board persona is awful. I’m not at all sad to see him go. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/24 "2004-10-11T18:49:10Z")
I’m bummed we’re not supposed to have threads about “Why was So-and-so banned?” because then I could start a thread “Why Was OneMan Banned?” Then you’d open the thread and I’d ask if it was because he always had those cymbals between his knees. It’d be pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/25 "2004-10-11T18:51:35Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Heh. Similarly, if someone wants to search back several months, there’s the thread in which he got incredibly rude and pompous when people (including myself) suggested that dogs could be bred for behavioral traits. :smack: Which woulda been the second thread to which **Lute** linked: I didn’t recognize the thread from its title. I’ll shut up now. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![herownself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8baadc/32.png) [@herownself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/herownself)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/26 "2004-10-11T18:52:25Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Then isn’t it up to him to **calm the fuck down** and reread his posts before he submits them? No need to try to pick a fight with **me** about this. All I’m saying is that the guy is my friend. Because I’ve spent a great deal of time with him in person, I tend to understand where he’s coming from better than most. I don’t condone it when he flies off the handle, either in person or on the boards. I’m just very sad to see where this has come. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/27 "2004-10-11T18:53:35Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Then you’d open the thread and I’d ask if it was because he always had those cymbals between his knees. It’d be pretty funny. Consider yourself lucky that the smiley thread has caused a sever shortage of rolleyes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/28 "2004-10-11T18:58:10Z")
Well done, mods. ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/29 "2004-10-11T19:00:39Z")
I’m sad to see him go. But then again, I _like_ Verhoeven movies. _sheds a little tear_ ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/30 "2004-10-11T19:02:12Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > I think the Admins are completely wrong. Let’s look at his actual comment: 'Dja miss the part where he said another poster had a sock puppet mimicking their points? ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/31 "2004-10-11T19:03:18Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > My Goodness. That’s gotta be the most pointless banning since that guy who posted a joke thread in IMHO, which got moved to The Pit, and he got banned since no joke threads are allowed in the Pit. If you’ll allow me to indulge my pendantry, the guy didn’t get banned for having a joke thread in the Pit, he got banned because the Admins decided he was trolling by posting an opinion he didn’t really hold just for the sake of the conversation he thought it would generate. The fact that it was a joke and wound up in the Pit (through no fault of his own) was irrelevant to his banning. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/32 "2004-10-11T19:03:18Z")
> [@herownself](#): > > No need to try to pick a fight with **me** about this. All I’m saying is that the guy is my friend. I didn’t mean to look like I was trying to pick on you. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/33 "2004-10-11T19:04:27Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > :smack: Which woulda been the second thread to which **Lute** linked: I didn’t recognize the thread from its title. Naw, that’s where he came after me because he misinterpreted a joke and couldn’t admit that his interpretation was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/34 "2004-10-11T19:07:55Z")
As with most long-term posters who are banned (and judging from **TubaDiva** ’s post on the subject in that thread: “In fact, enough is too much”), it looks like this was an accumulation of offenses rather than a single incident. **lissener** has leapt off the deep end about several subjects in countless threads, and done quite a bit to hurt his own reputation and the arguments he was trying to make. I admire him for his passion, for the work he does with gay teens, and for his usually articulate manner. But he had a few rough spots, and those spots, when touched, really set him off. It is, however, seriously lame to be banned for Verhoeven. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/35 "2004-10-11T19:08:49Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Naw, that’s where he came after me because he misinterpreted a joke and couldn’t admit that his interpretation was wrong. I smack myself again: it was the **first** thread wherein he went after genetics. I’d also forgotten that you’re **Jeff Olsen** reincarnate; otherwise, I woulda checked the threads to which you linked more closely. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/36 "2004-10-11T19:11:04Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [One](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=265602&page=1&pp=50&highlight=american+bull) [issue](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=271475&page=2&highlight=ivylass)? Those were relatively minor issues, though. I thought the continual false accusations of [racism](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5267930&postcount=13) were worse. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/37 "2004-10-11T19:17:16Z")
> [@sleeping](#): > > I thought the continual false accusations of [racism](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5267930&postcount=13) were worse. He also pulled that sort of crap in that first link, as **Lefty** mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/38 "2004-10-11T19:26:52Z")
I don’t think it was any one thing he did, either. Have you ever tried to have any meaningful interaction with him at all? He epitomizes the definition of JERK that the Dope’s Number One Rule seems to be aimed at. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/39 "2004-10-11T19:34:10Z")
He was using versions of ‘fuck’ rather liberally for a CS thread, too… ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674/40 "2004-10-11T19:43:11Z")
Thank God, I can finally talk about the idiocy of Showgirls without fear. Count that as one subject I didn’t dare breach with \*\*lissener \*\* the attack dog waiting in the wings. As bizarre fixations on particular subjects go this ranks right up there with JDT. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-banned/268674.md?page=3)