# Lissner, This Pit Is For You.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 24, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395 "2009-12-24T00:08:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 13
### Author:  [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/241 "2009-12-31T17:53:08Z")
> [@billfish678](#):
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> Dipshit.
Just love your sig line.
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### Author:  [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/242 "2009-12-31T18:00:47Z")
> [@Washoe](#):
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> My story involves someone throwing an indoor house cat (albeit a BIG one) outside in the winter to fend for itself—seems pretty apropos to me.
You don’t think there is any difference between a jaguar and a housecat?
> [@](#):
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> I was repeatedly told in quite condescending tones that it must have been a small bear or a bobcat. Yeah, right—as if I can’t tell the difference.
Imagine that.
Regards,
Shodan
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### Author:  [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/243 "2009-12-31T18:12:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> You don’t think there is any difference between a jaguar and a housecat?
Well, jaguars are bigger than yer typical house cat…
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### Author:  [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/244 "2009-12-31T18:23:07Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> You don’t think there is any difference between a jaguar and a housecat? Imagine that.
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> Regards,
> Shodan
Surely the Jaguar WAS a housecat?
_(Please don’t mistake my smartarsedlyness for giving a blue fuck about this)_
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### Author:  [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/245 "2009-12-31T18:52:23Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Surely the Jaguar WAS a housecat?
Yeah, that’s what sucks about it, sadly. The cat was probably kept in an outdoor cage or shed somewhere in the San Joaquin Valley. The heat there during the summer is unimaginable. Then they added insult to injury by dumping the cat to fend for itself (bravo to the cat for successfully doing so) _and_ introducing a non-native species into a protected area. They should bring back prison sweat boxes just for clowns like these. Playing pick-up-the-soap would be too good for them, as that involves fresh, cool water.
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/246 "2009-12-31T19:06:58Z")
> [@Washoe](#):
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> Yeah, that’s what sucks about it, sadly. The cat was probably kept in an outdoor cage or shed somewhere in the San Joaquin Valley. The heat there during the summer is unimaginable. Then they added insult to injury by dumping the cat to fend for itself (bravo to the cat for successfully doing so) _and_ introducing a non-native species into a protected area. They should bring back prison sweat boxes just for clowns like these. Playing pick-up-the-soap would be too good for them, as that involves fresh, cool water.
Yet Lissener aint that bad a guy because according to you you once saw a jaguar that was living in the wild and it was doing okay so if a jaguar released into the wild can do okay so can a housecat yet those mean irresponsible fuckers that released that poor jaguar to fend for itself in the wild should be sent to prison to be butt fucked.
Do you realize how fucking stupid and circular that reasoning is?
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### Author:  [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/247 "2009-12-31T19:28:22Z")
I never said anything of the sort. I never offered, nor even intended to offer, any opinion whatsoever concerning **Lissner** ’s action(s). That’s just something you made up in your head. Just for the record, I don’t approve, but that’s neither here nor there. I simply pointed out to **tacoloco** that he/she had made an unwarranted assumption concerning the cat’s ultimate fate, and illustrated my point with an interesting (at least to me) anecdote. I also very clearly stated that being anally raped would be an _inappropriate_ recompense for these offenders, as this would involve human companionship, cool fresh water, and a tactilely pleasing sudsing action.
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/248 "2009-12-31T19:33:04Z")
> [@Washoe](#):
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> I never said anything of the sort. I never offered, nor even intended to offer, any opinion whatsoever concerning **Lissner** ’s action(s). That’s just something you made up in your head. Just for the record, I don’t approve, but that’s neither here nor there. I simply pointed out to **tacoloco** that he/she had made an unwarranted assumption concerning the cat’s ultimate fate, and illustrated my point with an interesting (at least to me) anecdote. I also very clearly stated that being anally raped would be an _inappropriate_ recompense for these offenders, as this would involve human companionship, cool fresh water, and a tactilely pleasing sudsing action.
So, basically, you had no point here besides a stupid story that really has nothing to do with the debate here.
Congrats then. You are not retarded. Just conversationally and socially clueless.
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### Author:  [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/249 "2009-12-31T19:43:16Z")
> [@Washoe](#):
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> Well, jaguars are bigger than yer typical house cat…
That’s sort of the point.
Imagine the outcome if some coyote decided to try to eat a jaguar. Now imagine if the coyote decided to tackle a house cat instead.
> [@](#):
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> I simply pointed out to tacoloco that he/she had made an unwarranted assumption concerning the cat’s ultimate fate, and illustrated my point with an interesting (at least to me) anecdote.
Again, your alleged jaguar sighting doesn’t really have anything to do with the situation. One cannot, in other words, assume that just because a jaguar can survive in a national park a house cat can do the same in someone’s back yard. If indeed, you spotted a jaguar and not a bobcat or bear.
In other words, because you think [this](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.edu.pe.ca/southernkings/Pictures/jaguar.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.edu.pe.ca/southernkings/jaguar.htm&usg=__iiLhECXW83Ul_Jh7ZDHNl8qOzNk=&h=274&w=395&sz=89&hl=en&start=6&sig2=xzfOCy4mbOjDytQgo44Hjg&tbnid=WH3bxNNh8Auh0M:&tbnh=86&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djaguar%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff&ei=3P08S4TJM5-gMqunrdoI) looks exactly like [this](http://www.greenmeadowscarecenter.com/Facility/Fullsize/Russell_House_Cat_1_640x480.jpg), this means that [this](http://larry5154.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/president-bush-eats-kitten-1259.jpg) never happened, and **lissner** ’s cat lived a long and happy life.
That’s kind of goofy.
Regards,
Shodan
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### Author:  [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/250 "2009-12-31T21:48:55Z")
I wasn’t going to join this thread, even though I found **lissenser** ’s behavior towards the cat inhumane and irresponsible. However, now that **lissenser** has expressed his extreme distress at the thought of [a sweater being harmed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=545940)… I am officially disgusted.
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### Author:  [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/251 "2009-12-31T21:53:38Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> I wasn’t going to join this thread, even though I found **lissenser** ’s behavior towards the cat inhumane and irresponsible. However, now that **lissenser** has expressed his extreme distress at the thought of [a sweater being harmed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=545940)… I am officially disgusted.
Meh, that I just figured was him being over the top. Besides, you should check out his reaction if someone tries to rewind a rare Fellini VHS tape with an automated rewinder.
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### Author:  [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/252 "2009-12-31T22:03:59Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Meh, that I just figured was him being over the top. Besides, you should check out his reaction if someone tries to rewind a rare Fellini VHS tape with an automated rewinder.
I LOL’d, thanks.
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### Author:  [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/253 "2009-12-31T22:11:39Z")
Okay, I actually read the rest of that post, and it was a little freaky that he cared that much. Lissener seems to care about things–sweaters, movies–a lot more than living creatures. Just as he’d flip out over the way I treat my DVD collection, I guess we’re pretty freaked over the way he treats kitties.
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/254 "2009-12-31T22:32:18Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Meh, that I just figured was him being over the top. Besides, you should check out his reaction if someone tries to rewind a rare Fellini VHS tape with an automated rewinder.
I thought free range VHS tapes could take care of themselves in the wild.
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### Author:  [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/255 "2010-01-01T00:44:10Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Okay, I actually read the rest of that post, and it was a little freaky that he cared that much. Lissener seems to care about things–sweaters, movies–a lot more than living creatures. Just as he’d flip out over the way I treat my DVD collection, I guess we’re pretty freaked over the way he treats kitties.
I don’t want to come off as a Lissener groupie here, but…
I just want to note that it seems to me that he more was interested in the art for the artist’s sake, than the actual _thing._
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### Author:  [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/256 "2010-01-01T00:54:11Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> I don’t want to come off as a Lissener groupie here, but…
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> I just want to note that it seems to me that he more was interested in the art for the artist’s sake, than the actual _thing._
True, true. And I like art, too, so I didn’t mean to put him down for THAT…I don’t know–he just always came off as so…intense in the way he liked them, that it always put me off. I’m all for people having hobbies and interests but with him, the major vibe was always, “I like film/the cinema but no one else knows what the hell they’re talking about, GAWD.”
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/257 "2010-01-01T01:02:34Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> True, true. And I like art, too, so I didn’t mean to put him down for THAT…I don’t know–he just always came off as so…intense in the way he liked them, that it always put me off. I’m all for people having hobbies and interests but with him, the major vibe was always, “I like film/the cinema but no one else knows what the hell they’re talking about, GAWD.”
Speaking of which, I think I saw Lissener on a King of the Hill episode the other night.
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/258 "2010-01-01T04:24:11Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> I wasn’t going to join this thread, even though I found **lissenser** ’s behavior towards the cat inhumane and irresponsible. However, now that **lissenser** has expressed his extreme distress at the thought of [a sweater being harmed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=545940)… I am officially disgusted.
_If you want to destroy my sweater
Pull this thread as I walk away (as I walk away)
Watch me unravel i’ll soon be naked_
😃
ETA: I’m reminded of **Chaz.E.** flippping out when people would put soy sauce on their rice.
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### Author:  [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/259 "2010-01-01T05:13:56Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> ETA: I’m reminded of **Chaz.E.** flippping out when people would put soy sauce on their rice.
Oh dear. I did this with my rice tonight.
:smack:
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/260 "2010-01-01T16:46:34Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> Well, that’s the point, isn’t it? Taking a cat to the shelter, even if it will be euthanized = not cruel. Tossing a cat out like the garbage he should have tossed instead = cruel.
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> And, of course, starting a thread about how you throw a cat out like garbage = trolling.
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> Regards,
> Shodan
So if **lissener** had decided to painlessly poison the cat instead of throwing it outside would this thread still be here?
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