# Lissner, This Pit Is For You.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 24, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395 "2009-12-24T00:08:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 16
### Author:  [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/301 "2010-01-03T22:13:32Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Why do people do this? Of course he means in his opinion. Who else would he be speaking for? His grandmother?
Stellar addition to the conversation. I’m so pleased you took time to post here. I so look forward to any pearls of wisdom you choose to bestow upon the pit. :rolleyes:
I am sorry I offended thee and I shall strive to live up to your lofty standards of posting in the future. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Sounds to me like it was a statement of truth and fact, which it isn’t. I beseech thee overlook my transgression. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I am a prick. You’ll get over it.
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/302 "2010-01-03T22:30:30Z")
> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Stellar addition to the conversation. I’m so pleased you took time to post here. I so look forward to any pearls of wisdom you choose to bestow upon the pit. :rolleyes:
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> I am sorry I offended thee and I shall strive to live up to your lofty standards of posting in the future. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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> Sounds to me like it was a statement of truth and fact, which it isn’t. I beseech thee overlook my transgression. :rolleyes:
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> Yeah, I am a prick. You’ll get over it.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Why bother to point out that he was offering his opinion? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Of course he was. So I suppose my contribution was :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as relevant :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as yours.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/303 "2010-01-03T22:50:42Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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> Why bother to point out that he was offering his opinion? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Of course he was. So I suppose my contribution was :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as relevant :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as yours.
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> :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Perhaps if you read my entire post instead of picking one little thing, then you’d find actual content.
But hey, whatever is easier for ya.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/304 "2010-01-03T23:03:48Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> The problem is that trying to obfuscate the issue by creating silly hyootheticals based on the amount of suffering the cat endured is, well… silly. HOW the cat died is completely irrelevant. The fact that it DID (more likely than not) die because it broke some unwritten contract with Lissener in terms of affection and household etiquette is what’s important.
You’re kind of being an idiot here. Whether how the cat died was relevant was the point of the hypothetical and while you clearly fall on one side of that question - a couple of other people were hesitantly on the other side. So maybe it’s not so darn self evident as you seem to think.
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/305 "2010-01-03T23:05:50Z")
Saw it. Didn’t comment on it because that’s not what I wanted to address. Do you get it yet?
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### Author:  [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/306 "2010-01-03T23:09:44Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Saw it. Didn’t comment on it because that’s not what I wanted to address. Do you get it yet?
I get it. You wanted to snark.
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/307 "2010-01-03T23:28:47Z")
> [@jordanr2](#):
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> Exactly. No one’s saying this is the right thing to do, or that it’s defensible - just that it’s not the unforgivable cosmic horror people are making it out to be. Obviously it still weighs on **lissener** ’s conscience, or he wouldn’t have posted about it a couple of decades later in a venue guaranteed to incite precisely this reaction. I just think people ought to choose their battles, and I genuinely envy anyone with an outrage quota that can cover both something of this nature and all the other awful things the contemporary world throws at us.
Then what are YOU doing here and posting shit for then.
SURELY you have better things to do and more important things to worry about.
If anything, you worrying about people worrying about piddly shit makes you the even bigger ass.
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### Author:  [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/308 "2010-01-04T00:50:43Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You’re kind of being an idiot here. Whether how the cat died was relevant was the point of the hypothetical and while you clearly fall on one side of that question - a couple of other people were hesitantly on the other side. So maybe it’s not so darn self evident as you seem to think.
Well as ym obviously v, I think the idiocy meter falls on someone trying to find where the line of aceptability in killing an animal the owner no longer wants is… stupid and, as I said, silly.
Saying, well…“If he gently put a saucer of milk laced with nembutol, is that ok?” or “If he gutted the cat alive and showed it it’s still beating heart, is that too much?” or “If he shaved it’s fur in humiliating patterns and made it conga through a line of said cat-peers to where it died from embarassment, is that over the line?” is idiotic and serves no purpose but to bury what REALLY happened in a bunch of bullshit hypotheticals.
If we wanted to, we could turn Lissener into a hero of the story and say, “What if the cat was suffering from Alzheimer’s, feline leukemia, and perpetual diarrhea. Lissener, in his ever loving mercy and grace, gently put it out of it’s misery while singing lullabye’s until it’s eternal sleep?” But it’s stupid because that’s not what happened.
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### Author:  [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/309 "2010-01-04T01:24:30Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> Well as ym obviously v, I think the idiocy meter falls on someone trying to find where the line of aceptability in killing an animal the owner no longer wants is… stupid and, as I said, silly.
Yes, I had managed to figure out your opinion. We’ll leave it to other readers to decide if pet ownership is self evidently an unbreakable covenant and who is being silly here.
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### Author:  [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/310 "2010-01-04T01:52:08Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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> Why bother to point out that he was offering his opinion? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Of course he was. So I suppose my contribution was :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as relevant :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as yours.
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> :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:🆒🆒🆒🆒😃 :(:(:(☹ :):):):p:p:p:p:p:o:o:o:o:o :smack::smack::smack::smack:
😕:):mad:;):D:cool::(:(:smack:
Understand?
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/311 "2010-01-04T02:28:42Z")
> [@torie](#):
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> :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:🆒🆒🆒🆒😃 :(:(:(☹ :):):):p:p:p:p:p:o:o:o:o:o :smack::smack::smack::smack:
> 😕:):mad:;):D:cool::(:(:smack:
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> Understand?
Haha. I was just trying to show your boy \*\*crazyburrito \*\*over there that I could be more intrusive with the emoticons than he could. I think I succeeded. Maybe I should have used twelve more.
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### Author:  [@ajb867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ajb867)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/312 "2010-01-04T02:41:30Z")
> [@](#):
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> crazyburrito
😃
Awesome lol.
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### Author:  [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/313 "2010-01-04T02:52:37Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Haha. I was just trying to show your boy \*\*crazyburrito \*\*over there that I could be more intrusive with the emoticons than he could. I think I succeeded. Maybe I should have used twelve more.
My boy? I don’t know him.
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### Author:  [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/314 "2010-01-04T03:14:12Z")
> [@torie](#):
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> My boy? I don’t know him.
Ahh, I love slang. It’s just an expression, torie.
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### Author:  [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/315 "2010-01-04T03:16:01Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Haha. I was just trying to show your boy \*\*crazyburrito \*\*over there that I could be more intrusive with the emoticons than he could. I think I succeeded. Maybe I should have used twelve more.
Succeeded with what?
You made a snark post, I snarked back. End. of. story.
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### Author:  [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/316 "2010-01-04T03:28:22Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Ahh, I love slang. It’s just an expression, torie.
Oh. 😃
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/317 "2010-01-04T03:30:28Z")
> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Succeeded with what?
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> You made a snark post, I snarked back. End. of. story.
Succeeded in being a bigger ass with over-emoticon usage than you. _snaps fingers_ Keep up, young man.
And yeah, **torie** , what \*\*Nzinga \*\*said.
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### Author:  [@jordanr2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jordanr2)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/318 "2010-01-04T06:03:30Z")
> [@tacoloco](#):
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> In your opinion, you mean. It’s pretty horrible in my book. I can respect that fact that you don’t see it that way. But don’t dismiss other people’s opinions on the subject simply because you see it differently.
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> I agree with you that in the grand scheme of life, the universe and everything, what Lissener did barely registers. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a shitty thing to do.
sure, and obviously it’s a matter of opinion, but it’s just weird to me that people are spending so much time redundantly piling on somebody for something that happened so long ago. He knows it was a shitty thing to do, we know it, what’s the point of adding to all this? Seems like everyone has to chime in to obligatorily express their offense at what **lissener** did.
> [@](#):
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> I wouldn’t assume that just because people are expressing outrage in this forum that people are putting more emphasis or more energy into the outrage than they are with anything happening in their real lives, off the message board.
oh, there you’re more idealistic than I am.
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### Author:  [@jordanr2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jordanr2)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/319 "2010-01-04T06:04:57Z")
> [@billfish678](#):
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> Then what are YOU doing here and posting shit for then.
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> SURELY you have better things to do and more important things to worry about.
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> If anything, you worrying about people worrying about piddly shit makes you the even bigger ass.
Because I saw somebody I like on these forums being raked over the coals yet again over what I consider a somewhat trivial matter (something pretty immoral, but there’ve been far worse things that have incited threads of similar ardor and duration). People just oughta let it go.
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### Author:  [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/320 "2010-01-04T06:19:23Z")
This thread is making me crave M&Ms. Just me?
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