# Lissner, This Pit Is For You.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 24, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395 "2009-12-24T00:08:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 17
### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/321 "2010-01-04T16:48:25Z")
It’s making me crave a sniper rifle and a bell tower.
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### Author:  [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/322 "2010-01-04T16:54:16Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It’s making me crave a sniper rifle and a bell tower.
You won’t be an architect no more.
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/323 "2010-01-05T02:44:34Z")
It took me almost ten hours to figure out what that meant.
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### Author:  [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/324 "2010-01-05T04:09:23Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It took me almost ten hours to figure out what that meant.
I’m still struggling.
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### Author:  [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/325 "2010-01-05T04:19:29Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It took me almost ten hours to figure out what that meant.
Can you fill the rest of us in?
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### Author:  [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/326 "2010-01-05T13:40:56Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Can you fill the rest of us in?
I’m guessing it was a reference to [this guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman)’s field of study.
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### Author:  [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/327 "2010-01-05T13:58:53Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It took me almost ten hours to figure out what that meant.
What _what_ meant?
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### Author:  [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/328 "2010-01-05T14:07:06Z")
Jemimah fruitbat pool cue rotary hubcap.
- I just wanted to get in with the most coherent thing posted in this thread in the last 24 hours. -
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### Author:  [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/329 "2010-01-05T16:31:38Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Can you fill the rest of us in?
[The Ballad Of Charles Whitman, by Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys.](http://www.mp3lyrics.org/k/kinky-friedman/the/)
> [@](#):
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> He was sitting up there for more than an hour,
> Way up there on the Texas Tower
> Shooting from the twenty-seventh floor. Yahoo!
> He didn’t choke or slash or slit them,
> Not our Charles Joseph Whitman,
> He won’t be an architect no more.
[Audio.](http://www.last.fm/music/Kinky+Friedman/_/The+Ballad+of+Charles+Whitman)
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### Author:  [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/330 "2010-01-05T17:10:19Z")
Jez…another sad excuse for a fucking moron calling himself human.
It’s a fact of live to put animals down, if you need to do it, do it in a kinder way.
Just kill yourself, jump off a bridge, drown, hang or shoot youself… you and the rest of the world is better off…
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### Author:  [@jordanr2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jordanr2)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/331 "2010-01-05T19:09:04Z")
> [@Doughbag](#):
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> Jez…another sad excuse for a fucking moron calling himself human.
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> It’s a fact of live to put animals down, if you need to do it, do it in a kinder way.
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> Just kill yourself, jump off a bridge, drown, hang or shoot youself… you and the rest of the world is better off…
what a fresh, unexpected perspective in this thread!
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/332 "2010-01-05T19:45:27Z")
What a d-bag.
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### Author:  [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/333 "2010-01-05T21:26:16Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> What a d-bag.
A squid eating d. in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/334 "2010-01-05T21:45:53Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> What a d-bag.
Who specifically?
There are quite a few floating around in this thread.
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/335 "2010-01-05T21:49:44Z")
> [@billfish678](#):
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> Who specifically?
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> There are quite a few floating around in this thread.
I was referring to the post directly above mine, which was in response to the post directly above it. I was calling **doughbag** a d-bag. Hardy har.
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### Author:  [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/336 "2010-01-06T19:45:23Z")
Cruelty is the worst thing that people are capable of. Anyone who is capable of doing a cruel act and not regretting it doesn’t deserve to be addressed as a human being.
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### Author:  [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/337 "2010-01-06T20:08:35Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#):
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> God, you people are fucking stupid. Cats are animals. Animals usually live outdoors. Pissy-cat got what was coming to it.
People are also animals. People all once lived outdoors. Many still do around the world. Biologically, there is very little difference between human that has been raised and lived indoors all its life and a cat who has been raised and lived indoors all its life. Either one put outside to live off nothing but the land has a very slim chance of survival.
Don’t believe me? I urge you to test it out on yourself.
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### Author:  [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/338 "2010-01-06T20:37:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> What the fuck is your problem? If you have something to say about me, start another thread. Jesus, call me when you get something new.
It’s just deflecting. S/he can’t argue against logic, so turns the attack on you instead. It’s an ages-old defense tactic for idiots.
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### Author:  [@Steampunk\_Willie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steampunk_Willie)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2010, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/339 "2010-01-07T10:53:27Z")
So who here eats meat that is produced by the American meat ‘machine’ (band name!)? 'Cause you might be a hypocrite… :eek:
Yes, Lissner did something cruel or whatever you want to call it but put it in prospective. That cat may have died in the snow and that is unfortunate but at least before that it hadn’t had parts of it cruelly cut off, shoved in a tiny cage with other kittens, and fattened up to be eventually eaten. Hell, it got to see sunlight. And this is how we treat animals in \* America\*. There are places where animal cruelty is a foreign concept and dogs/cats are snacks. We boil lobsters alive (you can hear them scream) and most people could care less. It’s a kitten, it is cute, so automatically Lissner is now Kitty-Hitler. He may have well have lured it into a easy bake oven the way some of you are responding. Those not so adorable innocent BABY snakes the cat killed barely got a mention from anyone here.
On another note, has no one here ever met or owned an asshole animal? Animals DO have personalities and they aren’t always nice. You should train them properly and only have pets you can take care of/mesh with but sometimes a cat is an asshole and _will_ piss on things or destroy things to upset you. My dog is my best friend in the whole world but I know for a fact she had destroyed specific things she knows I also loved when she would got spiteful/vengeful as a puppy.
Just to make this clear so I don’t get accused of it:
1. I would never have done that to a cat, even a total douchepuss.
2. I do not belong to PETA (I grew up near Norfolk, I know their crazy) and am aware that when I buy soy-milk it is from soy raised from farmers who may also be a part of the meat industry or at least support it or be supported by it in some manner. I just try to avoid supporting it as much I can within a reasonable living budget. You all can eat a steak if you want, that’s your business, I’d just rather the cow you are eating wasn’t sledge hammered to death fully conscious before it became that steak.
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### Author:  [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lissner-this-pit-is-for-you/522395/340 "2010-01-07T15:25:24Z")
> [@Steampunk\_Willie](#):
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> You should train them properly and only have pets you can take care of/mesh with but sometimes a cat is an asshole and _will_ piss on things or destroy things to upset you. My dog is my best friend in the whole world but I know for a fact she had destroyed specific things she knows I also loved when she would got spiteful/vengeful as a puppy.
You don’t seem to know much about animal psychology, but I am willing to be disabused of that notion. Can you provide any evidence that dogs or cats are able to understand the concept of human love for objects, that dogs and cats understand revenge, or that dogs and cats behave in a particular way in order to upset their owners?
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