# List all of the movies with "things are not what they seem" plot device

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**Created:** [May 17, 2003, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923 "2003-05-17T18:23:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/21 "2003-05-19T06:37:51Z")

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Videodrome, and almost every other movie David Cronenberg, directed comes to mind.

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**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/22 "2003-05-19T06:59:49Z")

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Errmm… **Diceman**? Bruce Willis was in Sixth Sense, not Harrison Ford (see your spoiler tag).🙂

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/23 "2003-05-19T08:11:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by QueerGeekGirl \*  
> _ **Magnolia** _

Can you explain this one? I’ve seen _Magnolia_ a few times, but saw nothing to indicate the world is not what it seems.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/24 "2003-05-19T10:11:21Z")

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Since Bruce Willis’ character is, IIRC, the character the movie really revolves around, you look from his perspective, and in that sense, it definitely qualifies.

Does Fight Club qualify?

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/25 "2003-05-19T11:38:13Z")

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> Bruce Willis was in Sixth Sense, not Harrison Ford (see your spoiler tag)

Doh! :smack:

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/26 "2003-05-19T12:20:27Z")

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Blade Runner? There’s a lot of ambiguity about who is & who isn’t a replicant, also who knows they are & who doesn’t.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2003, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/27 "2003-05-19T12:25:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SenorBeef \*  
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> Does Fight Club qualify? \*\*

I think it would.

I would also add [Mulholland Drive](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0166924). That really messed with my mind 😉

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/28 "2003-05-20T04:18:16Z")

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I’ll second Mulholland Drive

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/29 "2003-05-20T16:26:00Z")

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I was going to say: anything by David Lynch would certainly work, I think.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/30 "2003-05-20T18:35:17Z")

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**The Hitcher**. (I maintain that the Rutger Hauer character is a figment of the main character’s imagination.)

**A Beautiful Mind**.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/31 "2003-05-20T18:39:50Z")

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The Stunt Man (1980)  
The Manchurian Candidate

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/32 "2003-05-20T18:40:09Z")

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**Baron Munchausen**

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/33 "2003-05-20T18:42:05Z")

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How about **The Others**?

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2003, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/34 "2003-05-20T19:41:35Z")

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I don’t see how The Game could not qualify. Michael Douglas goes through the whole movie living in a world that is “not what it seems”. I don’t think it matters whether or not everyone else’s reality fits with his (I’m not going to spoil anything), but he lives in a different reality than everyone else for most of the movie.

I was just thinking about getting this movie the other day, now I’ll have to. It’s good.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/35 "2003-05-21T14:46:50Z")

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**Angel Heart**.

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**Rosemary’s Baby**?

**The Stepford Wives**?

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**Planet of the Apes**.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/38 "2003-05-21T16:04:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Earl of the CC \*  
> \*\*This one was totally ruined by the previews, but **Terminator 2** was one. There was no indication anywhere in the movie that Ah-nold was a good guy until he protected John Conner from the other Terminator. Until then it seemed like there were 2 terminators coming to kill him. \*\*

Not really-because in the beginning narration, you hear Linda Hamilton explaining that they always sent two-one to kill, and one to protect.

Perhaps _The Empire Strikes Back_, when it first came out-when Palpy says, “The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi!”

Only to find out that Darth Vader is Luke’s father!

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/39 "2003-05-21T16:12:37Z")

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Ocean’s Eleven – there’s a slick twist at the end.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-all-of-the-movies-with-things-are-not-what-they-seem-plot-device/175923/40 "2003-05-21T16:17:47Z")

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**Mirage** with Gregory Peck. I hope this isn’t giving too much away, but its somewhat like _Total Recall_.

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