# List of superheroes who have stayed dead

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 28, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240 "2006-03-28T13:43:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/81 "2006-04-05T02:48:55Z")

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If I may interject a hijack without derailing the thread: Max Mercury showed up to help throw Superboy Prime into the Speed Force, yes? Then what happened to the supervillian who was possessing his body, the evil-Jay Garrick fellow… The Rival I think his name was?

Also Starman 2 has stayed dead.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/82 "2006-04-05T02:55:54Z")

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The Starmans are almost as confusing as the Sandmans.

Most of the villians killed by Scourge are dead, and stayed dead. The Ten-eyed man is dead, and stayed dead.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/83 "2006-04-05T02:57:35Z")

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Just a question: what’s the deal with Captian Marvel being dead being so important? I really don’t know much about that era of Marvel comics, so I probably lack the context to know why it’s so important. He died of cancer, right?

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/84 "2006-04-05T19:55:45Z")

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> [@Apos](#):
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> Most of the villians killed by Scourge are dead, and stayed dead.

Say it ain’t so! I’m still holding out hope for the return of [Turner D. Century!](http://www.geocities.com/marvel_oops/tdc/tdc.html) :eek: 😃

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/85 "2006-04-05T20:45:51Z")

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More on Turner here:  
[http://www.seanbaby.com/stupcom/tdc.htm](http://www.seanbaby.com/stupcom/tdc.htm)

Also: Big Wheel!  
[http://www.seanbaby.com/stupcom/bigwheel.htm](http://www.seanbaby.com/stupcom/bigwheel.htm)

I think Rainbow Raider may still be around. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t funny!  
[http://www.seanbaby.com/stupcom/rainbow.htm](http://www.seanbaby.com/stupcom/rainbow.htm)

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**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/86 "2006-04-05T21:17:13Z")

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Is James Hudson (Guardian of Alpha Flight) still dead?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/87 "2006-04-05T21:17:15Z")

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> [@Apos](#):
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> Just a question: what’s the deal with Captian Marvel being dead being so important? I really don’t know much about that era of Marvel comics, so I probably lack the context to know why it’s so important. He died of cancer, right?

First, it was the NAME. His very name included the name of the company. He was a trademark character of symbolic (if not actual importance) who had headlined his own book and guest-starrred in countless others. Practically every major Marvel hero made the trick from Earth to Titan for his bedside vigil. (It was just pure luck that Dr. Doom didn’t say “Hey! Nobody’s minding the store–think I’ll go ahead and conquer Earth!”

Second, it was that CM died in a “socially relevant” fashion. Not in battle, not heroically, not due to some treacherous villain–but frail and in his bed. That was shocking. Of course, the shocking element was undercut a bit by the fact that the assembled heroes were all supposedly cursing themselves for not working harder to cure cancer before this happened. That struck even my 12-year-olds self as ridiculous. I mean, apart from Reed Richards and Dr. Strange, what were they SUPPOSED to be doing to cure all the world’s diseases?

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**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/list-of-superheroes-who-have-stayed-dead/350240/88 "2006-04-06T02:11:02Z")

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> [@stegon66](#):
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> Is James Hudson (Guardian of Alpha Flight) still dead?

Nope, he came back, and he and Heather had a baby girl in the _Wolverine_ title about 2 years ago.

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