# Little Adolph denied a birthday cake.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506 "2008-12-17T02:45:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/41 "2008-12-17T05:40:53Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Not one of you tried to understand what I meant or even ask politely .

Like it’s our fault we don’t own retard-to-English dictionaries.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/42 "2008-12-17T05:48:15Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I am neither drunk nor stupid, and I take exception to your calling me that.

How about stubborn as a fucking mule? Will you accept that? Because you really should just drop this. Nobody called YOU a racist, but you are too busy being the aggrieved party here to notice it.

Plus, you are shitting on what could be a pretty good thread.

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**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/43 "2008-12-17T05:54:40Z")

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Oh. I think I get it. So, forget about Adolf _Hitler_…is the name Adolf alone enough to warrant such outrage? I wouldn’t say so as it was a perfectly respectable name until _somebody_ ruined it for everyone! Whereas Dweezil…

I think this was what **Quasimodem** was getting at. Is that right?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/44 "2008-12-17T05:57:17Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> It’s never a good idea to post drunk or stupid
> 
> You assume too much, Colibri, and you assume wrong.

When in a hole, stop digging. Your first post did not make much sense. Now you’re trying to be a martyr. (and failing at that too)

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/45 "2008-12-17T05:58:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> About 12 people attended the birthday party on Sunday, including several children who were of mixed race, according to Heath Campbell.
> 
> “If we’re so racist, then why would I have them come into my home?” he asked.

If you were so racist, why would you name ALL THREE of your kids after Nazis (albeit poorly)? Inviting kids to a party is an insignificant, one off decision.

> [@](#):
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> Heath Campbell said he named his son after Adolf Hitler because he liked the name and because “no one else in the world would have that name”.

Ah, _that_ explains it. :rolleyes: You know, there is a reason the name is so unique.

These people could be dumbarses, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they’re retarded attention whores.

And **Quasimodem** , I’d walk away from this thread if I were you. You asked a stupid question, got a clear response from **DianaG** with a touch of ridicule, and you fly off the handle. Take your perceived insults and call it a loss.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/46 "2008-12-17T06:16:41Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> You know, I can see where this guy is coming from:
> 
> [QUOTE=Siam Sam]  
> This reminds me of a story I read a few years ago about a man, in the Midwest I think it was, whose surname really was Hitler. He refused to change it. All of his children had, but he stood firm. Said it was the family name and he was proud of it. The children, all adults now, were also interviewed and recounted a childhood full of torment at the hands of others.

You know, I can see where this guy is coming from:

> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Office Space  
> Samir: No one in this country can ever pronounce my name right. It’s not that hard: Samir Na-gheen-an-a-jar. Nagheenanajar.  
> Michael Bolton: Yeah, well at least your name isn’t Michael Bolton.  
> Samir: You know there’s nothing wrong with that name.  
> Michael Bolton: There was nothing wrong with it… until I was about 12 years old and that no-talent ass clown became famous and started winning Grammys.  
> Samir: Hmm… well why don’t you just go by Mike instead of Michael?  
> Michael Bolton: No way. Why should I change? He’s the one who sucks.

The Austrian jerk was the one who sucked - _he_ should have changed his name, before he ruined it for every other Hitler.  
[/QUOTE]

So this guy enters a courtroom and walks up to the judge.

“Your honor,” he says, “I want to change my name.”

“Why?” the judge inquires. “What’s your name?”

“Joe Hitler,” the guy answers.

“Joe _Hitler_?” the judge responds with some shock. “I can understand why you want to change your name. What do you want to change it to?”

“Norman,” he replies.

“Norman?” the judge repeats incredulously. “_Norman_ Hitler?”

“Yeah,” the man-who-wants-to-be-called-Norman says. “I’ve had it up to here with people saying, ‘Hey Joe, whadya know?’”

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/47 "2008-12-17T06:19:02Z")

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To tell you the truth, i don’t understand why the cake shop wouldn’t just give this douchebag his cake with the kid’s name on it. In these hard economic times, his money spends as good as everyone else’s, and it’s not like you’re contributing to or enabling white supremacy by writing a name in frosted sugar on top of a cake. And as a bonus, you give him no cause for whining about “tolerance” and getting his ugly head on the national news.

If he had asked for something like “Kill the Jews” or “Death to Niggers” or something, i’d be more inclined to refuse him, but in this case i think it’s probably just as easy for everyone if you ice the cake, take his money, and send his cracker ass home.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/48 "2008-12-17T06:30:11Z")

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“other than the obvious one” (meaning the difference between naming a kid after a murdering dictator or a harmless one such as Dweezil and asking if one could be excused and the other **not**?)

If I had to take a position I would have said Dweezil was fine while Adolf is \*\*not \*\*fine.

What about that is escaping you to the point where you just HAVE to call me stupid and drunk, when I am neither???

Sorry. Guess you’ll just have to continue with your insults of me.

I can rest easy knowing I only asked a question, and you pounced because you did not understand it.

Although I have used descriptive language, I have not resorted to name calling. something you all just seem so ready to do at a second’s notice.

Tell you what: **You** don’t have to be ashamed of yourselves.

**I** will be ashamed of **my** self for having thought you people could converse without resorting to insults right off the bat.

Did you know that’s the first indication of ignorance, by the way?

Don’t understand something? Ridicule it! The masses will be with you!

Quasi

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/49 "2008-12-17T06:30:39Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> If he had asked for something like “Kill the Jews” or “Death to Niggers” or something, i’d be more inclined to refuse him,

Naming a kid Adolf Hitler is like naming him “Kill The Jews” or “Death to X”. So it is something like that which you would be inclined to refuse. Lets face it the constitution does not reach to pastries decorated by private parties. If they don’t want to participate in his fuck nuggery they have a right to refuse. They did. That should have been the end of the story. Why some other fuck nugget thought it was news worthy is the real question.

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/50 "2008-12-17T06:31:29Z")

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For the record, Honszlynn Hinler is also a racist thing (HH = “Heil Hitler”). See also: 88 (H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.)

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/51 "2008-12-17T06:38:36Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> “other than the obvious one” (meaning the difference between naming a kid after a murdering dictator or a harmless one such as Dweezil and asking if one could be excused and the other **not**?)
> 
> If I had to take a position I would have said Dweezil was fine while Adolf is \*\*not \*\*fine.
> 
> What about that is escaping you to the point where you just HAVE to call me stupid and drunk, when I am neither???
> 
> Sorry. Guess you’ll just have to continue with your insults of me.
> 
> I can rest easy knowing I only asked a question, and you pounced because you did not understand it.
> 
> Although I have used descriptive language, I have not resorted to name calling. something you all just seem so ready to do at a second’s notice.
> 
> Tell you what: **You** don’t have to be ashamed of yourselves.
> 
> **I** will be ashamed of **my** self for having thought you people could converse without resorting to insults right off the bat.
> 
> Did you know that’s the first indication of ignorance, by the way?
> 
> Don’t understand something? Ridicule it! The masses will be with you!
> 
> Quasi

Get off the cross it does not suit you. Besides, your question was not whether Adolf is better or worse than Dweezil but whether the name “Adolf Hitler” was worse than Dweezil Zappa. One is a goofy name and the other is an offensive reference to a despised dictator who killed millions of innocent people and choosing it is a giant fuck you to everybody who meets your kid. Do you know which is which? Do you now understand why you are an idiot? Of course you don’t because you are an idiot.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/52 "2008-12-17T06:40:51Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> If I had to take a position I would have said Dweezil was fine while Adolf is not fine.

Again, that’s what **DianaG** said, replace ‘fine’ with ‘harmless wacky’. Should we be offended, **Quasi**?

> [@](#):
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> Did you know that’s the first indication of ignorance, by the way?
> 
> Don’t understand something? Ridicule it! The masses will be with you!
> 
> Quasi

Hey guys, what would be better: shooting my pet dog, or feeding it?

What’s that? A stupid question? Why, you just didn’t understand it! You should all be ashamed!

Allwi.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/53 "2008-12-17T06:42:04Z")

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Well, that depends: Feeding it to what?

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/54 "2008-12-17T06:56:53Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> “other than the obvious one” (meaning the difference between naming a kid after a murdering dictator or a harmless one such as Dweezil and asking if one could be excused and the other **not**?)
> 
> If I had to take a position I would have said Dweezil was fine while Adolf is \*\*not \*\*fine.
> 
> What about that is escaping you to the point where you just HAVE to call me stupid and drunk, when I am neither???
> 
> Sorry. Guess you’ll just have to continue with your insults of me.
> 
> I can rest easy knowing I only asked a question, and you pounced because you did not understand it.
> 
> Although I have used descriptive language, I have not resorted to name calling. something you all just seem so ready to do at a second’s notice.
> 
> Tell you what: **You** don’t have to be ashamed of yourselves.
> 
> **I** will be ashamed of **my** self for having thought you people could converse without resorting to insults right off the bat.
> 
> Did you know that’s the first indication of ignorance, by the way?
> 
> Don’t understand something? Ridicule it! The masses will be with you!
> 
> Quasi

Oh, for chrissake, shut the fuck up.

Protip, dumbass: If no one understood your fucking drool, _the fault doesn’t lie with everyone else._

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/55 "2008-12-17T06:58:52Z")

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Dear God, you fuckers are hopeless, aren’t you?

LOOK at the original question!

THINK about the person asking it!!!

Do you ASSHOLES REALLY think I set out to hurt anybody???

No I did not.

But did **you**?

Damn right. Just like a moray eel or a nest of vipers, you could not wait. Been hungry too long, right?

I will not lower myself to once again explain what I meant.

That’s it.

I tried.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/56 "2008-12-17T06:59:48Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> Well, that depends: Feeding it to what?

Not the troll. I think he’s been overfed. 😃

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/57 "2008-12-17T07:11:27Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Naming a kid Adolf Hitler is like naming him “Kill The Jews” or “Death to X”. So it is something like that which you would be inclined to refuse.

Nope. Different thing.

> [@askeptic](#):
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> Lets face it the constitution does not reach to pastries decorated by private parties.

Yeah, you got me. My long, detailed explanation about why they violated his constitutional rights has been shown to be misguided.

Oh wait, i never mentioned the constitution.

> [@askeptic](#):
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> If they don’t want to participate in his fuck nuggery they have a right to refuse. They did. That should have been the end of the story. Why some other fuck nugget thought it was news worthy is the real question.

You got me again. I don’t know why i tried to argue that they had no right to refuse.

You’re really doing an amazing job of rebuttal.

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**Author:** ![ajb867](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@ajb867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ajb867)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/58 "2008-12-17T07:12:19Z")

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I think Quasimodem was just trying to say why is Moon Unit more acceptable then Adolf Hitler.

Moon Unit to me is equally unacceptable as Adolf Hitler. The kid will be traumatized either way.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/59 "2008-12-17T07:17:46Z")

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> [@ajb867](#):
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> I think Quasimodem was just trying to say why is Moon Unit more acceptable then Adolf Hitler.
> 
> Moon Unit to me is equally unacceptable as Adolf Hitler. The kid will be traumatized either way.

I dunno, if I met someone named Moon Unit I’d think it was kinda refreshing and funny. Of course I’d never name _my_ kid that, but if I met someone else with the name why would I care?

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/60 "2008-12-17T07:24:29Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> You’re really doing an amazing job of rebuttal.

And you are doing an amazing job of starting a fight where none was intended.

And this:

> [@](#):
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> Nope. Different thing.

Is not really the acme of rebuttal either…

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