# Little Adolph denied a birthday cake. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506 "2008-12-17T02:45:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/81 "2008-12-17T13:43:11Z")
So, I guess Genghiz Ted Jeffrey The Boston Strangler Gacy Astikov, is out then? \* sigh!\* If parents are allowed to do this to their children, they may as well be issued licenses to be a Complete And Utter Fucktard at the same time. If these names are on official documents, whoever allowed them should be punished too. Or the people who recorded it should have been able to say to the parents, “As of now, you are on the Child Protection Watch list as you are deemed a threat to your child’s well-being.”, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/82 "2008-12-17T13:45:42Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > So, I guess Genghiz Ted Jeffrey The Boston Strangler Gacy Astikov, is out then? \* sigh!\* Um, well…yeah… Astikov? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/83 "2008-12-17T13:51:35Z")
You got it. I hereby suspend myself for an indefinite period. Since you appear to speak for the SDMB community, I hope this is satisfactory to all, and I wish you Happy Holidays. ---
**Author:** ![MovingTarget](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@MovingTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovingTarget)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/84 "2008-12-17T13:52:43Z")
Edit: nevermind, I see he’s leaving for a while. Hate to see him go. I was hoping we’d be able to wait and see this thing through, but I guess most other people are wanting to put him up against a wall. tragic really. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/85 "2008-12-17T13:55:28Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > So that’s a “no” response? > > You won’t _allow_ me to tell you, “okay, I may have screwed up. Let’s see if I did.”? > > Even if she agrees with you, it won’t be accepted - because if she agrees with you, it will mean she has explained what I misunderstood? > > … Dude. **bluecanary** was offering a nuanced discussion, in good faith, that started with taking you at your word. You’re completely misunderstanding **blue** ’s post as nothing more than a personal slight. Your apparent misinterpretations are, unfortunately, _exactly the point_ of **bluecanary** ’s post. [on preview] > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Since you appear to speak for the SDMB community, I hope this is satisfactory to all, and I wish you Happy Holidays. Well. OK then. Happy Holidays. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/86 "2008-12-17T13:55:48Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > Moon Zappa’s name is no different (or weirder) than other kids of celebrities who were born in the late 60s. Lots of people gave their kids hippie-ish names; it was just something you did if you were involved with or sympathetic to the counterculture. > > That being said, there’s a world of difference between Zowie Bowie and Adolf Hitler Campbell. One is harmlessly eccentric, the other is ignorant. (For the record, Mr. Bowie is now called Duncan Jones.) > > And, frankly, I’m a huge free-speech advocate, but if I were the state of New Jersey, I’d force the parents to change their kids’ names on pain of criminal charges of child endangerment, because they’ve doomed their kids to a life of ridicule. > > Robin Pretty much what I was thinking. Moon Zappa never went around calling herself Moon Unit. Moon is a slightly goofy name but that is about it. Being called Moon might get you teased in school. Having a name like Adolf Hitler will doom your child. Sure he might just go by Adolf but what about job applications? College admision? Your driver’s license? Having a name like Moon Unit Zappa might cause a slight raised eyebrow in those cases. Having a name like Adolf Hitler may ruin you and certainly make you hate your parents and go to a judge as soon as you are 18. And for some reason during this thread I keep thinking of Vic Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/87 "2008-12-17T13:59:50Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Once you call your kid Adolf Hitler, the “swastika is an Indian peace symbol” defense goes out the window. Too lazy to scroll back but I think the original article said the store has previously refused to sell them a cake with a swastika. > > In the National Guard Armory I have spent quite a bit of time it there are some floor tiles with reoccurring swastikas. That part of the building predates WWII by quite a few decades. There has never been a kneejerk reaction to rip out the very nice floor because of it. I agree, I never said it was a valid defense only that the symbol was perverted by the Nazis. Its current useage is unfortuantely almost exclusively by right wing racist groups. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/88 "2008-12-17T14:23:28Z")
> [@bluecanary](#): > > **Quasi** , A case in point: You seem to have completely misinterpreted DianaG’s [first response](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10581523&postcount=15) to your post: > > She was NOT calling _you_ a racist, as you suggested she did [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10581585&postcount=21). She was describing someone who would name their child Adolph Hitler as racist and a douchebag. I think its fair to say most people would agree with this. This. **Quasi** , my original post was not intended as an insult, and I didn’t call YOU anything. It was simply a statement that Dweezil and Adolph Hitler are NOT comparable names, what with one being a bit of whimsy, and the other being a tribute to history’s most reviled mass murderer. I apologize if you misunderstood, and I feel terrible that it triggered all this. I’m sorry for my subsequent posts that were a bit insulting. I hope that after you’ve had a chance to breathe, you can see that this was all a misunderstanding. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/89 "2008-12-17T14:34:27Z")
> [@ajb867](#): > > Moon Unit to me is equally unacceptable as Adolf Hitler. The kid will be traumatized either way. I recall (poorly, obviously)an interview with either Dweezil or Moon and they said that, living in Laurel Canyon, their names didn’t particularly stand out in elementary school. ---
**Author:** ![Dondra\_Craig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Dondra\_Craig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dondra_Craig)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/90 "2008-12-17T14:35:58Z")
Tempest in a teacup would certainly apply to almost all participants in this thread. The original issue has evolved into a contest for namecalling. Best to move this into the “dead topic” category and leave it there. It is not a reflection on anyone’s level of intelligence. Comments can be misconstrued. Leave it at that. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/91 "2008-12-17T14:54:48Z")
> [@GilaB](#): > > Somehow, Honszlynn Hinler is supposed to be named for Heinrich Himmler, but unless the several news stories I’ve seen on the issue all spelled her middle name wrong, the brilliant parents couldn’t even Himmler right. The next little girl in the family will be named Chasity Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/92 "2008-12-17T15:09:40Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > To tell you the truth, i don’t understand why the cake shop wouldn’t just give this douchebag his cake with the kid’s name on it. In these hard economic times, his money spends as good as everyone else’s, and it’s not like you’re contributing to or enabling white supremacy by writing a name in frosted sugar on top of a cake. And as a bonus, you give him no cause for whining about “tolerance” and getting his ugly head on the national news. > > If he had asked for something like “Kill the Jews” or “Death to Niggers” or something, i’d be more inclined to refuse him, but in this case i think it’s probably just as easy for everyone if you ice the cake, take his money, and send his cracker ass home. I’m thinking that, if it’s my shop, I’d be worried about the douchebag somehow lets my potential customers know that I made the cake. Sure, I got douchebag’s money but I might lose some future business over it. And note to **Quasi** , just shut it down man. Whatever you thought you were doing at the start just wasn’t clear to anyone and your explanations are just making it worse. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/93 "2008-12-17T15:14:00Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Trying (probably in vain) to steer this thread back to the original topic… > > I was born in 1957, so I went to school in the 60s and 70s. Back then, NOT having an easily recognizable name made a kid a target for teasing. My first name is not Lynn, but an Italian name that my parents Anglicized, and very few people were able to pronounce it when they first saw it. In fact, that’s the reason I go by Lynn today. My first name is STILL severely mangled when someone tries to pronounce it for the first time. “Cousin Vinny” is often mangled? 😉 GD&R ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/94 "2008-12-17T15:14:43Z")
A little sympathy for the kid, here, who is likely to grow up to be a racist idiot like his parents and on top of that had to settle for a cake from Wal-Mart. 😛 The parents are obviously fucking morons in addition to being white supremacists or whatever else they are, which ain’t exatly a surprise. The dad’s pretty funny, though - he wears a Nazi soldier’s boots, names two kids after Nazis and gives the other “Aryan Nation” as a middle name, asks for a swastika on little Adolf’s birthday cake, and then asks people to look to _Barack Obama_ and not judge him? Weird. Too bad we can’t go back in time and sterilize these people. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/95 "2008-12-17T15:16:18Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Too bad we can’t go back in time and sterilize these people. It’s never too late. I’ll get the weed-eater. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/96 "2008-12-17T15:35:54Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > You got it. I hereby suspend myself for an indefinite period. > > Since you appear to speak for the SDMB community, I hope this is satisfactory to all, and I wish you Happy Holidays. I’m so disappointed. This is one of the best melt downs I’ve seen in a while. I was looking forward to several more pages of this inanity. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/97 "2008-12-17T16:13:12Z")
In a sort of devil’s advocate way, would we be having this same conversation if a baker declined a customer’s request for little Anton Satan LaVey Campbell’s devil’s food cake? ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/98 "2008-12-17T16:21:21Z")
Has anyone else noticed that the people who want to stand up and speak for the “white race” are generally the _last_ people you want to admit are _in_ the “white race”? I think these parents are tools of a first order, and I feel sorry for the kids who will end up paying the price for it. Would this have been as big of an issue if the name on the cake was just Adolf Campbell instead of the full Adolf Hitler Campbell? It does seem to be an intentional attempt at getting attention that they wanted to use the full name. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/99 "2008-12-17T16:21:49Z")
Wow, I thought I had seen some shit on these boards, but I’ve never seen a guy driven off over such a petty misunderstanding followed by an admission that Alzheimer’s may be affecting his judgment and an expression of fear that that may be the case. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506/100 "2008-12-17T16:22:48Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > I’m so disappointed. This is one of the best melt downs I’ve seen in a while. I was looking forward to several more pages of this inanity. ☹ Since Quasi has previously posted that he is in the early stages of Alzheimer’s I wasn’t looking forward to more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-adolph-denied-a-birthday-cake/477506.md?page=6)