# Little cultural things you don't want people to forget.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 16, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494 "2020-01-16T04:36:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/21 "2020-01-17T19:41:50Z")

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**The Wobblies.**

When labor unions were cool.

> **[Industrial Workers of the World](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World)**
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> The Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), members of which are commonly termed "Wobblies", is an international labor union that was founded in Chicago in 1905. The origin of the nickname "Wobblies" is uncertain. IWW ideology combines general unionism with industrial unionism, as it is a general union, subdivided between the various industries which employ its members. The philosophy and tactics of the IWW are described as "revolutionary industrial unionism", with ties to socialist, syndica In...

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/22 "2020-01-17T19:47:17Z")

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Dean Martin had a teevee show.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yYZhc7my6zA/hqdefault.jpg "The Dean Martin Show - February 25, 1971") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYZhc7my6zA)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/23 "2020-01-17T19:57:18Z")

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Oooooo, this one’s even better. Guests are the recently deceased Buck Henry, plus Orson Welles doing a scene from _The Merchant of Venice._ Also Joey Heatherton with no pants on.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/E3-OEMyXYl4/hqdefault.jpg "The Dean Martin Show - January 25, 1968") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3-OEMyXYl4)

Even the kitschiest tv back then had great shit on it.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/24 "2020-01-17T23:11:31Z")

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The crew cut was considered a shocking, anti-establishment haircut when it started to spread outside the crewing world. While Moe Howard’s almost-early-Beatle bowl cut was a common cut. Yet in the 60s people got angry over the Beatles’ haircut and suggested they all should be given crew cuts.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/25 "2020-01-19T01:28:18Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> **The Wobblies.**
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> When labor unions were cool.
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> [Industrial Workers of the World - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World)

Before unions, a “vacation” was the period between employment, and “healthcare” was Witch Hazel applied to cuts - while 9% of railway employees suffered amputations annually, and 1% died. Did your great-grandparents have all their fingers? Miracle!

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/26 "2020-01-19T05:25:17Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> The crew cut was considered a shocking, anti-establishment haircut when it started to spread outside the crewing world. While Moe Howard’s almost-early-Beatle bowl cut was a common cut. Yet in the 60s people got angry over the Beatles’ haircut and suggested they all should be given crew cuts.

One generation always has to have to complain about the younger generation, even if they did it themselves.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/27 "2020-01-21T04:00:53Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Have you stopped doing that since Rock died a decade ago?

It did?

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/28 "2020-01-21T19:12:47Z")

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- My Little Pony\* was not the first show “for girls” that was popular among adult males.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/29 "2020-01-21T19:44:24Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> - My Little Pony\* was not the first show “for girls” that was popular among adult males.

….what was then?

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/30 "2020-01-21T20:03:41Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Batman also was an important member of the original JLA because he was “The World’s Greatest Detective,” a part of him that has certainly been forgotten.

Actually the new Batman movie arc coming up with Robert Pattinson as Batman is based upon the Detective comics.

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**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/31 "2020-01-22T15:12:34Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Local TV stations dont do ‘after-school cartoon camps’ for kids anymore do they?
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> Shit…I know that ‘all things will pass eventually’…but once those who grew up seeing WB cartoons (and Popeye and Woody Woodpecker and Tom and Jerry) in the theatres and those of us who grew up seeing them on The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner show or local TV cartoon shows pass away, I don’t see how the classic WB cartoons stay in peoples consciousness. I don’t think its the greatest loss in the world for say, Tom Swift or Super-Chicken (great theme songs though) to pass…but classic WB cartoons? That’s a shame.

And no cartoons on Saturday mornings!!! That bothers me. Not that I’d watch them now, but a Saturday morning without cartoons isn’t a Saturday morning!

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/32 "2020-01-22T15:24:12Z")

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“Rock music is dead” is a manifestly ludicrous claim, when bands like White Denim, the Drive By Truckers, Tedeschi/Trucks, Cage The Elephant, Queens of the Stone Age, are currently touring their asses off and drawing gigantic crowds. White Denim alone is proof that rock music is still firing 12 cylinders. I saw them live last year and I honestly felt about like I’d imagine someone seeing Led Zeppelin or the Grateful Dead at the pinnacle of their careers - absolute monster band.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/33 "2020-01-22T15:42:33Z")

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Yeah, right. No band is doing any form, shape, or subgenre of rock music today.

I have to tell people the 1960’s saw the formation of a new style of music that will last forever.

Rock is classic, rock is still around, and rock will be played a century from now.

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/34 "2020-01-22T15:50:32Z")

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In addition to the A-list and B-list acts, local bands that nobody has ever heard of outside their cities are gigging their ass off and packing venues and house shows. COVER BANDS that do nothing but play covers of Led Zeppelin and the Grateful Dead, are drawing huge crowds. Guys in their 20s are forming rock bands influenced, not by classic rock, but by Cage The Elephant and LCD Soundsystem. The continuum of new generations both being influenced by classic music and contemporary music, is still in full operation.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/35 "2020-01-22T15:58:37Z")

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Okay, a little history lesson: The original rock music was a combination of the folk, country & western music mixed with jazz, soul, and rhythm and blues. Somehow, this produced a form of music that can be combined with any another form of music. And people are still doing it today.

To say that nobody is producing any new songs in the [sub genres of rock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rock_genres) is ignorance supreme.

I get a real charge out of telling the really religious people who think that rock is “the devil’s music” that is was a combination of white and “colored” music, which of course they find objectionable.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/36 "2020-01-22T18:52:56Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> ….what was then?

It’s hard to define “popular” but I’d go with Sailor Moon.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/37 "2020-01-22T19:02:31Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> **The Wobblies.**
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> When labor unions were cool.
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> [Industrial Workers of the World - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World)

I remember the Wobblies, and all their great songs (many were Protestant camp-meeting hymns turned into critiques both of Christian beliefs and capitalism --and they were funny!)

They were indeed cool.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/38 "2020-01-22T19:22:17Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I get a kick of out telling people not to get too attached to rock music cause it’s a fad that will fade in a couple of years.

I remember seeing an sf magazine’s preview of _Blade Runner_ before it came out and scoffed at the idea of people dressing like punk rockers in 2019. “yeah, that’ll seem pretty anachronistic when the punk fad dies out.” so, sort of right and sort of wrong.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/39 "2020-01-22T20:36:26Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> It’s hard to define “popular” but I’d go with Sailor Moon.

Ohhhhhh… ok… I don’t think they are near the same level, but definitely a case could be made.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-cultural-things-you-dont-want-people-to-forget/846494/40 "2020-01-23T02:05:35Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> I remember the Wobblies, and all their great songs (many were Protestant camp-meeting hymns turned into critiques both of Christian beliefs and capitalism --and they were funny!)
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> They were indeed cool.

Preach it.

I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night…

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