# "Little England" cycle of retreat from responsibility initiated by failure at Suez

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 6, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-england-cycle-of-retreat-from-responsibility-initiated-by-failure-at-suez/943711 "2021-06-06T15:40:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-england-cycle-of-retreat-from-responsibility-initiated-by-failure-at-suez/943711/21 "2021-06-08T08:58:55Z")

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What is “jingoistic”  
What is “jumped up”?  
What is “wogs”

Please answer. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-england-cycle-of-retreat-from-responsibility-initiated-by-failure-at-suez/943711/22 "2021-06-08T09:27:22Z")

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the other thing France was pissed at the us for the longest time was not getting support in Vietnam and to a point algeria

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-england-cycle-of-retreat-from-responsibility-initiated-by-failure-at-suez/943711/23 "2021-06-08T10:41:16Z")

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I think it goes further back than that. Apart from left-wing opposition to capitalism as embodied in the US, the centre and right establishment would have been put out by the US Senate’s rejection of the proposed post-WW1 tripartite defence pact.

If that perception of unreliability had worn off by the Liberation in WW2 and the establishment of NATO, then both left and right, apart from the outright Communists, would indeed have been disappointed by US opposition over Vietnam and Algeria, as well as feeling that the US had blown hot and cold over Suez.

And then, when de Gaulle returned to office, perhaps the memory of Roosevelt’s hostility to him added to the mix, when combined with his sovereigntist instincts.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-england-cycle-of-retreat-from-responsibility-initiated-by-failure-at-suez/943711/24 "2021-06-09T05:06:32Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> as well as feeling that the US had blown hot and cold over Suez.

I would dispute this point. The fact is that the American position at the time was very consistent. They told Britain and France through both public and private channels that they wanted a negotiated settlement and would not support a military action.

The British just didn’t listen. They assumed the United States would support them after the fact and would even offer support during the military operation if this was needed for its success. They were wrong; the United States stood by its stated position and was willing to let the Anglo-French operation fail. The British had no reason to blame the Americans for doing exactly what they said they would.

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**Author:** ![cannonkuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9bd4f/32.png) [@cannonkuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cannonkuo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-england-cycle-of-retreat-from-responsibility-initiated-by-failure-at-suez/943711/25 "2021-06-09T12:33:10Z")

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Are you saying that Colonel Blimps had/have a double standard towards the nationalization of the Suez Canal and Henry’s confiscation of the monasteries?

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**Author:** ![its\_the\_daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bb73d2/32.png) [@its\_the\_daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/its_the_daddy)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-england-cycle-of-retreat-from-responsibility-initiated-by-failure-at-suez/943711/26 "2021-06-09T12:52:47Z")

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From various sources: I’m sure you can find many, many more.

**Jingoism** is [nationalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism) in the form of aggressive and proactive [foreign policy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy), such as a country’s [advocacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advocacy) for the use of threats or actual force, as opposed to peaceful relations, in efforts to safeguard what it perceives as its [national interests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_interest).[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism#cite_note-1) Colloquially, jingoism is excessive [bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias) in judging one’s own country as superior to others – an extreme type of nationalism.

adjective: **jumped-up**

1. denoting someone who considers themselves to be more important than they really are, or who has suddenly and undeservedly risen in status.

“she’s not really a journalist, more a jumped-up PR woman”

_ **Wog** _ is an offensive and derogatory term in [Australian English](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English) and [British English](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_English) usually applied to people from the [Mediterranean region](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_region) and [Middle East](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East), such as [Southern Europeans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Europe) and [North Africans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Africa). In British English, it may also sometimes apply to people from the [Indian subcontinent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent) and certain other parts of Asia, such as the [East Indies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Indies). Whilst it is extremely derogatory in British English, in Australian English, it may be considered non-offensive depending on how the word is used, due to [reclamation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation) and changing connotations.

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