# Little Girl Takes Six Bullets for her Mother -- the Ultimate RO thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086 "2007-12-07T00:22:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/1 "2007-12-07T00:22:08Z")
If this story turns out to be substantially true as presented [here](http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/12/05/seven-year-old-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-mom/?ncid=NWS00010000000001) , we have perhaps the best target yet for our Recreational Outrage: some loser shot his girlfriend, and her seven-year-old\* daughter stepped in front of her mom, so he shot the little girl six times, too. \*it’s possible she’s 8, according to the link Kicker number one: she’s visually impaired to the point that she’s in special education. This stain shot a _half-blind_ little girl. Kicker number two: then the chickenshit _surrendered peacefully_ to police. Apparently it’s one thing to shoot an unarmed woman and a disabled child; another thing entirely to face people who might shoot back. I don’t know any of these people, and for all I know this is an internet hoax. (It does seem to be in multiple places though.) So I’ll take my lumps for RO posting and more if it’s false. If it isn’t, here’s to little Alexis Goggins. Not many would have been as swift and as brave. May you recover fully – we could use you, and more like you. Sailboat ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/2 "2007-12-07T00:27:35Z")
She was seven years old. [Here is a news link.](http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071205/METRO/712050396) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/3 "2007-12-07T01:44:51Z")
> [@](#): > > “The first operator clicked off and I dialed again and told that operator a guy with a gun was holding me hostage with a mother and baby and threatening to kill us. I told her the name of the gas station and then she said they didn’t have a unit to send.” So is Detroit totally broken, then? Good lord. ---
**Author:** ![Li\_l\_Pluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@Li\_l\_Pluck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Li_l_Pluck)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/4 "2007-12-07T02:25:51Z")
That little girl is such a cutie! I really hope she recovers fully and goes on to have the kind of life that her mother’s piece-of-shit pussy plug tried to deny her. And I’m glad the mother survived, too. Now, here’s my thing (as if no one else was thinking it, right?): According to the article, he’s a four-time convicted felon. Now, even though the article doesn’t classify the dickhead’s crimes as either violent or non-violent, still, he’s a _four-time convicted felon_. Question: What, if anything, did the mother know about his past crimes and convictions? And did he serve prison time? And if so, did she know about _that_? I mean, it’s like, damn, do we now, before involving ourselves in relationships, need to inquire as to whether or not potential mates have criminal histories? Absent other obvious signs of malcontentedness or moral deviation, of course. Damn. –Me, reminded yet again why I’m content to be alone. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/5 "2007-12-07T02:49:34Z")
[QUOTE=Sailboat] **If this story turns out to be substantially true as presented [here](http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/12/05/seven-year-old-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-mom/?ncid=NWS00010000000001) , we have perhaps the best target yet for our Recreational Outrage:** some loser shot his girlfriend, and her seven-year-old\* daughter stepped in front of her mom, so he shot the little girl six times, too. \ [/QUOTE] I disagree, I can name some better candidates. [Nine Day Old Infant Killed By Rape](http://www.dreamindemon.com/2007/11/27/neveah-richardson-9-days-old-dies-from-sexual-assualt/) To top it off, the asshole who killed this baby, began to beat her mother in the car, en route to the ER. or [Autistic Boy Stabbed In Both Eyes By Aunt](http://www.dreamindemon.com/2007/12/01/autistic-boy-stabbed-in-both-eyes-by-aunt/) Note: The autistic boy cannot speak, and is probably permanently blind now. Both of those are worse (IMO) than what the OP is outraged about. Not that the crime above doesn’t also deserve outrage as well. It does. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/6 "2007-12-07T02:57:46Z")
[QUOTE=Zabali\_Clawbane] I disagree, I can name some better candidates. [Nine Day Old Infant Killed By Rape](http://www.dreamindemon.com/2007/11/27/neveah-richardson-9-days-old-dies-from-sexual-assualt/) To top it off, the asshole who **allegedly** killed this baby, began to beat her mother in the car, en route to the ER. or [Autistic Boy Stabbed In Both Eyes By Aunt](http://www.dreamindemon.com/2007/12/01/autistic-boy-stabbed-in-both-eyes-by-aunt/) Note: The autistic boy cannot speak, and is probably permanently blind now. Both of those are worse (IMO) than what the OP is outraged about. Not that the crime above doesn’t also deserve outrage as well. It does. ☹ [/QUOTE] Corrective word added in bold and red. I do know better. :o ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/7 "2007-12-07T03:23:14Z")
**Zabali** , I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties. Gads. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/8 "2007-12-07T03:50:51Z")
[QUOTE=Darth Nader] **Zabali** , I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties. Gads. [/QUOTE] _wry_ I read more than one place that deals with true crime. Blogs, and a message board. I work to keep it from taking too much out of me though. Guess you don’t read the Websleuths board, or Steve Huffs’ blogs/other true crime blogs eh? Whatever you do, don’t peek at Parents Behaving Badly. I don’t go read there often, bad for my blood pressure. ---
**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/9 "2007-12-07T14:33:06Z")
[QUOTE=Darth Nader] **Zabali** , I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties. Gads. [/QUOTE] Maybe **Zabali** is related to [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Downer) woman. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/10 "2007-12-07T14:33:13Z")
Somewhere online, there has to be a recreational outrage blog with the latest news of extreme child abuse, animal torture and cruelty, and criminal sentences against women in nations with Sharia law. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/11 "2007-12-07T14:51:51Z")
[QUOTE=Sailboat] Kicker number two: then the chickenshit _surrendered peacefully_ to police. Apparently it’s one thing to shoot an unarmed woman and a disabled child; another thing entirely to face people who might shoot back. [/QUOTE] I don’t see why this is a ‘kicker’. Would you be happier if he shot some cops as well? OTOH, you have also falied to consider that he was simply out of bullets. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/12 "2007-12-07T15:55:43Z")
I think it’s more along the lines of “If he had taken a shot at the cops, they would have killed the scum, saving the county the cost of a trial and incarceration.” ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/13 "2007-12-07T16:18:43Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] I think it’s more along the lines of “If he had taken a shot at the cops, they would have killed the scum, saving the county the cost of a trial and incarceration.” [/QUOTE] So instead of a few decades living in a concrete cell the scum gets a quick death? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/14 "2007-12-07T16:23:23Z")
Point. But when he gets out of jail he’ll just do something like this again. The recidivism rates for this sort of thing are very high. Easier all around to cap him quick. Moot point. He’s a part of the System now, and likely will be for life, more or less. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/15 "2007-12-07T16:43:29Z")
[QUOTE=elmwood] Somewhere online, there has to be a recreational outrage blog with the latest news of extreme child abuse, animal torture and cruelty, and criminal sentences against women in nations with Sharia law. [/QUOTE] Of course there is–and somewhere in cyberspace someone’s rubbing one out while reading it, too! Fuck, save me a window seat… ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/16 "2007-12-07T16:57:24Z")
[QUOTE=SmartAleq] Of course there is–and somewhere in cyberspace someone’s rubbing one out while reading it, too! Fuck, save me a window seat… [/QUOTE] And someone paying to watch him do it via webcam. ---
**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/17 "2007-12-07T17:06:52Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] I OTOH, you have also falied to consider that he was simply out of bullets. [/QUOTE] My theory is that he’d just decided he wasn’t really that good at this sort of thing and gave up. I mean, I don’t know much about the mechanics of shooting people, but I feel that if someone gave me a gun, 8 bullets and a more or less stationary blind 6 year old girl and her mother I could manage to successfully kill at least one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/18 "2007-12-07T17:27:08Z")
[QUOTE=Malodorous] My theory is that he’d just decided he wasn’t really that good at this sort of thing and gave up. I mean, I don’t know much about the mechanics of shooting people, but I feel that if someone gave me a gun, 8 bullets and a more or less stationary blind 6 year old girl and her mother I could manage to successfully kill at least one of them. [/QUOTE] You are so going to hell! Would you like me to save you a seat? ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/19 "2007-12-07T19:02:55Z")
:o That was my thought too-- " suffering gunshot wounds to the eye, left temple, chin, cheek, chest and right arm" – wow, he’s a crappy shot. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086/20 "2007-12-07T19:21:06Z")
[QUOTE=Malodorous] My theory is that he’d just decided he wasn’t really that good at this sort of thing and gave up. I mean, I don’t know much about the mechanics of shooting people, but I feel that if someone gave me a gun, 8 bullets and a more or less stationary blind 6 year old girl and her mother I could manage to successfully kill at least one of them. [/QUOTE] Horrible as it is, this was exactly my thought. How could they both survive? Are we sure it is the girl who is blind? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-her-mother-the-ultimate-ro-thread/429086.md?page=2)