# Little help with semantics here.

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**Created:** [April 17, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-help-with-semantics-here/578763 "2011-04-17T22:25:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-help-with-semantics-here/578763/56 "2011-04-18T17:07:10Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I have no idea what you’re talking about at this point. Would you please explain? I’ve never seen any mod say “you are not an honest debater” is allowed.

Sure.

> [@why do jews get a pass when it comes to racism?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-do-jews-get-a-pass-when-it-comes-to-racism/577370/151):
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> I honestly don’t know why I bother. You poke a stick for the sake of a reaction. When things aren’t going your way, you change direction. It doesn’t matter. Making up words and putting them in the mouths of others is SOP for you, and yet you do it repeatedly.
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> You simply aren’t an honest debater. You see the word “jew” and knee-jerk react immediately. Finn to the rescue!
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> come on… say it. I know you are dying to! just get it out, and you’ll feel better. remember, bizarre, elitist racist, and…?

Unless I missed it (possible, but unlikely) there was no mod note on that at any point.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> The OP never called Jews “elited bigoted racist [whatevers].” […]He _did_ ask if Jews, unlike other groups, got a pass for this behavior. “Jews are elitist bigoted racists” was **FinnAgain** ’s sarcastic paraphrase of the OP’s claim.

This is simply not true. The OP argued, by analogy, that Jews who wanted to marry other Jews were elitist racists. "If I love you in every way but won’t marry you because you aren’t of the same religion, color, or whatever, doesn’t that make me an elitist and a racist by definition? " That was his explicit claim and he admitted it later on, as if it wasn’t clear enough to start with.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> And I moderated **FinnAgain** ’s comment because it was so over-the-top.

Except it wasn’t. The OP argued that if he, as a white person, engaged in the same exact behavior he was describing, then he’d be an elitist and a racist. There’s nothing over the top in objecting to what the OP said. It certainly wasn’t “sarcastic”, either, and I’m still a bit confused as to why you thought it was.  
This is just getting silly. If someone stated “If I moderated in this manner, wouldn’t you think I was [insert pejorative]”, would you consider that to neither be a statement about a statement about your moderation, and that anybody who said it was, was using a “sarcastic paraphrase” that was “over-the-top”?

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