# Little Hitlers taken from home - Campbell family tragedy **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 14, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285 "2009-01-14T17:40:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/1 "2009-01-14T17:40:35Z")
[Remember the Campbell family, whose progency had the charming names Adolf Hitler Campbell, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinnler Campbell?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=497840) Prepare to pretend to be amazed: [New Jersey child services has taken custody of the kids.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28647163/) ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/2 "2009-01-14T18:00:44Z")
They haven’t received any reports of abuse? Then why did they take the kids? Surely we haven’t gotten to the point where what you name your child is an issue? To be sure, the parents are at the very least, idiots, and they may be raising a little crop of skinheads, but is that enough for the state to take the kids away from their parents? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/3 "2009-01-14T18:05:21Z")
We don’t know that that _is_ why they were taken away – in fact, we don’t know much of anything. I’m curious to get more of this story. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/4 "2009-01-14T18:09:36Z")
I suppose one could argue that naming your son “Adolf Hitler [surname]” _is_ a form of abuse – and that these kids were either going to be bullies or be bullied… It does set up the Campbell parents (and any attorney who would represent them) to make a libertarian argument against state interference in the private affairs of a family and the state’s prerogative to define what constitutes a normal, healthy situation – a historically ironic argument, given the original National Socialists’ doing just that, and so much more. ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/5 "2009-01-14T18:09:41Z")
Man, I’m sure the parents must be führerious. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/6 "2009-01-14T18:13:32Z")
> [@Borborygmi](#): > > Man, I’m sure the parents must be führerious. :: raucous laughter, catcalls, footstomping :: On the bright side, there’s now a lot more _Lebensraum_ in their house. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/7 "2009-01-14T18:24:38Z")
Well, they were the ones who had to make the big deal over the birthday cake and bring their strange little family to the public’s attention, they should have realized that they would be scrutinized. You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/8 "2009-01-14T19:16:50Z")
It says the police haven’t had reports of abuse. Woudn’t that sort of thing be made to social services, who did remove the kids? However, I don’t believe the kids should’ve been removed wothout some kind of misconduct besides giving your kids horrible names. StG ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/9 "2009-01-14T19:18:05Z")
Crazy. What’s really crazy though, are some of the reader comments on the story at [www.lehighvalleylive.com](http://www.lehighvalleylive.com) [http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf/2009/01/boy\_named\_adolf\_hitler\_his\_sis.html#comments](http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf/2009/01/boy_named_adolf_hitler_his_sis.html#comments) “My prayers have been answered. Thank you Lord for stepping in and saving these innocent angels from the grasp of the enemy. I will sleep better knowing they now may have a chance at a normal happy life.” “So sad what has been allowed to happen. The parents should be forced to change those names or have the children taken from them and adopted out. No one should ever be allowed to name babies, with such names, living in American. Bar them from living in America and send them to Germany to live, sounds like a good idea to me and would probably make the parents happier. These are sick people who should not be allowed to raise kids in the first place. A gold star to the store who refused to put that name on a cake.” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/10 "2009-01-14T19:22:18Z")
I’m not clear on what really happened here either. It’s kind of tenuous to say the names themselves constitute abuse. If the parents were members of a white supremacist group, for example, might youth services decide it’s not a safe environment? I don’t know how these things work. There are definitely some unanswered questions. ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/11 "2009-01-14T19:25:39Z")
> [@The\_Scrivener](#): > > I suppose one could argue that naming your son “Adolf Hitler [surname]” _is_ a form of abuse – and that these kids were either going to be bullies or be bullied… Yeah, except that’s the same argument used to deny adoption rights to gay parents. If we don’t accept it for one side, we can’t use it for the other. There better be some compelling reason to remove those children from their homes, and their names, while offensive, are not compelling reasons. This is especially so when family services are so strapped for funds that the have two or three times the recommended case load assigned to each agent. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/12 "2009-01-14T19:35:14Z")
We don’t know why they were taken away, and we don’t know that names had anything to do with it. The names certainly are an alarm bell and strongly suggest a toxic environment. Physical abuse doesn’t necessarily have to enter into it. It could have to do with substance abuse. A lot of these white trash racists are alcoholics and meth heads. I don’t think there’s any question the kids are better off outside that household, regardless. I do think that poisoning kids’ minds like that is a form of abuse, even thoughit might be legal. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/13 "2009-01-14T19:40:42Z")
> [@Borborygmi](#): > > Man, I’m sure the parents must be führerious. That was all kinds of awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/14 "2009-01-14T19:55:51Z")
> [@Borborygmi](#): > > Man, I’m sure the parents must be führerious. Well, crap. There goes everyone elses chance of having the best line of the year. And January is only half over. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/15 "2009-01-14T20:03:17Z")
I don’t remember the original article enough, but were there weapons in the home? I know there was all sorts of Nazi paraphenalia, I can’t see CPS removing the kids for their _names_ but if they had all sorts of crazy weaponry and militia type stuff, then maybe “unsafe environment” or something. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/16 "2009-01-14T20:06:10Z")
For the record, absent an obvious and immediate emergency, CPS can’t make the decision to remove kids from a home on its own. A judge has to order it. If this is happening, it was because evidence was presented to a judge. ---
**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/17 "2009-01-14T21:55:00Z")
If the kids were removed because of their names, than just about every newborn of celebrity parents should be removed too. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/18 "2009-01-14T22:03:54Z")
For research purposes, the name **Adolf Hitler Campbell** is GREAT! No trouble sorting among the dross among the Google hits. Howver, nobody seems to no why. Me, I think it’s criminal bad taste. ---
**Author:** ![MinniePurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@MinniePurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MinniePurl)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/19 "2009-01-14T22:16:09Z")
I imagine someone said to themselves “These people named their kid Adolf Hitler-- it’s very unlikely good parenting is going on here” and kept an eye on them until they saw something they could take to CPS. Didn’t take long. They brought it upon themselves. They were the ones insisting the bakery put his middle name on the cake and went to the media when they unsurprisingly refused. Who puts their kid’s middle name on a cake? If they asked for a cake that said only “Happy Birthday Adolf”, there would have been some eyerolling and people saying “who the hell names their kid Adolf?”, but it’s unlikely any bakery would refuse to put that on a cake. ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285/20 "2009-01-14T22:18:10Z")
Well I guess names DO hurt. Anyone ever heard of nicknames. I have a lot of black friends that will give their kids African names because they want to show how proud they are of their ethnic heritage. Which is fine except in every single case these African names get shortened to Kiki, DeeDee, Tessie, Boo or whatever, so I’m like WHAT’S THE POINT? Name your kid Adolph and call him Dolph. Look at the Simpson’s they got a guy named Dolph. Name him Hitler and call him “Hit,” Stalin, call him “Staly” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/little-hitlers-taken-from-home-campbell-family-tragedy/481285.md?page=2)