Little things about a Mac that are irritating

Um, Opalcat, it sounds like most of your complaints are trackball vs. mouse, not PC vs. Mac. OK, so you like trackballs better than mousen, but all modern pointing devices work equally well on either platform. You can have a trackball on a Mac, or a mouse on a PC.

My biggest pet peeve? When I’m in Finder, I far more often want to open a file than to rename it. I’d rather use the simple, obvious “return” or “enter” for the former, and reserve the latter for a less-intuitive command-key combination. It’s not so bad any more, though, now that I’ve gotten used to command-o.

I never meant to imply otherwise–it was a tangent we went on. I had already stated my complaints about Mac.

You can hold the button down while lifting the mouse by squeezing the two buttons at the side while still holding the mouse button down.

The mouse doesn’t have those. I think the computer at the desk I use at work is older.

Speaking about Finder…
There is no Mac version of “cut” for files.
They have “copy” and “paste” but there is no “cut”

This means that you can’t move a zillion files by selecting them, doing a “cut”, going elsewhere, and doing a “paste”

I have heard rumors that they will some day implement a “shelf” in Finder where you can put files while you are busily finding their destination folder. They say that this implementation is more the “Mac way” then “cut” would be. It sounds like a good enough idea to me. Let’s see it, Apple.

Thankyouthankyouthankyou! I just did that and now I have a back and forward arrow! How simple these things are, once you know how…
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Re Safari and adblocks–I’ve never had pop ups in Safari. I do get them in FF (which my grad school insists I use–or rather, their system is incompatible with Safari), but the tech guy showed me how to block in FF.

Graycat I will try that with my mouse. I don’t eat at my keyboard, so I dunno what the problem is. thanks.

Okay, embarassing Mac newbie question: which one is the Command key and which one is the Option key?

Hooray! Glad it was that simple. Having to navigate back and forward by menu sounds like a royal pain.

The Command key has a ⌘ printed on it, and if your keyboard comes from Apple, usually also has an Apple logo on that key as well. You’ll find it to the immediate left of your space bar, and a second copy of it to the immediate right of the spacebar as well.

The Option key is, well, the one that has “Option” written on it. It generally also identifies itself as the “Alt” key (which is how Windows users know it). Look to the left of the left-side Command key, in between the Command key and the Control key.

There’s not cut!?! :eek:

Have they said why they won’t implement it, and will use (what sounds like) a more annoying and step-intensive “shelf”? What makes “cut” so un-Mac? :confused:

The option key is the one that says ‘Option’ (or alt), the Command key is the one with the Apple and/or weird square with curly corners thingie.

I call that thing the “spirograph thingie”, which is, I believe, the technical term

We don’t have that, it’s true. It’s only been fairly recently that you could copy and paste files on a Mac.

Traditionally the MacOS has more readily lent itself to easily opening two windows (your source folder and your destination folder) and then you just drag-and-drop between them. Windows developed the copy (or cut)-and-paste method largely out of necessity because despite being named “Windows”, it doesn’t do multiple windows very elegantly. Having so invented this method of moving files, though, Windows has hit upon something rather nice, I must say.

I don’t know why Apple thinks we should only have copy and paste but not cut for files, though. I had a 3rd party contextual-menu add-on that let me copy, copy (append), cut, cut (append), and paste files under MacOS 9. Very handy! I could grab nine files from one folder, close it, open a folder on a totally different volume, snag 11 more files, close window, then open a 3rd folder and paste all 20.

The Mac version is the “native version”. For Word, anyway, which Microsoft made for the Mac first (since all they had was DOS at the time). :smiley:

For slideshows and image management, I much prefer QPict. Been using it for years!

I suspect that it has to do with “cut” and “paste” being considered data-level actions, not file-level actions. The two terms were taken from the pre-computer page layout practice of physically cutting out the different page elements and then physically pasting them into the appropriate location on a template. Using “cut” and “paste” to move files is incongruous within that context; moving actual physical files from one folder to another in the physical realm is not a matter of cutting and pasting; you don’t “cut” a folder from one file cabinet and “paste” it into another, you remove it from one and place it in the other. On a Mac, terms like these have one specific meaning. Windows confuses matter by using the same term to refer to two (or more) different and unrelated actions.

Then there is the two different user interface paradigms:

Early versions of windows carried over many conventions from DOS, one of which was the “tree” analogy for the folder hierarchy. In other words, to get to a particular directory, the user had to burrow down to it from the top level. This is what people who had used DOS were accustomed to, so doing it that way in Windows made a certain amount of sense. However, it didn’t make it intuitive, in the new graphical environment, to move files from one directory to another. So being able to “cut” and “paste” actual files was kind of a workaround for the fact that when you’re looking at the “tree” it was awkward to have two different directories open at the same time, especially when they were far enough apart on the list that both could not be displayed at the same time (I’m relying on my vague memories of Windows 3.1 from many years ago; in the interest of “backward compatability” most of these things were carried over into future version of Windows even though they were no longer strictly necessary).

On the Mac, the default from the very beginning (I believe) was that the user could open two folders into two separate windows at the same time, even if those folders resided on different levels of the directory hierarchy. Moving files from one folder to another was a simple matter of opening both folders and dragging the desired files from one window to the other. Perhaps this was possible in early versions of Windows, but it probably wasn’t the first thing a veteran DOS user would think of, so other methods were devised. The idea of “cutting” a file is foreign to Mac users.

I see you’ve already said much of what I said, but with regard to this statement, I’ll just say “see my answer above”. Mac OS retains (or attempts to, anyway) the “desktop analogy”, wherein items on your computer desktop have analogs in the physical world. You can certainly photocopy a physical document and then place the copy into a different folder, but you still don’t “cut” the original document from it’s original folder. That still leaves “paste”, which doesn’t make sense in the desktop analogy when speaking of entire files. In this case, I think Apple would be better off implementing the “Move…” action that Windows has, because it adheres better to the desktop analogy.

It’s all about the “Spatial Finder” concept. Here’s a page explaining what the Spatial Finder is all about. Here’s a page about the Shelf concept.

These articles are both from the same series of articles (use the “previous” and “next” links at the bottom of the page to see the rest).

If you don’t have an Apple-made keyboard and just have a simple 101+ Windows keyboard, the Windows key will sometimes work as the Command key and the Alt is the Option key. I have a much fancier Logitech keyboard that has markings for both Windows and Mac and they actually remap the keys in a Mac OS so that what would be Alt in Windows is Command and the Windows key is Alt, to mimic the placement on an Apple keyboard.

A note: If you’re in Parallels running a Windows OS that supports the Windows key, that is mapped to the Command key. Not sure about Boot Camp.

I was calling them the control key, the thingie key, and the other thingie key to my husband last night. He has the cutest little vein that pops out on his forehead…:smiley:

I call it the Shreddie key. :slight_smile:

Windows has a nasty habit of doing that. The one that bothers me the most is how they call links (hyperlinks) on webpages “shortcuts” :smack:

You’re kidding me! They really do that? :eek: