# Live Foaling Cam **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 9, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800 "2010-03-09T02:41:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/881 "2010-04-08T03:58:35Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > The Mare Stare message boards have the owner of Athena posting and she says things aren’t going well and she’s afraid it’s a previa. Vet is on the way. Oh crap oh crap oh crap ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/882 "2010-04-08T03:58:56Z")
I’m calling Pearl’s baby Oyster, and now he’s up and active again. ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/883 "2010-04-08T04:03:30Z")
When asked if Athena had a previa she answered, “Yes, I think so. It is what it felt like on palpation. I didn’t go into the cervix when I felt it. This might be a red bag if she starts to deliver now.” What does she mean by a red bag? ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/884 "2010-04-08T04:06:01Z")
New message from Athena’s owner, “Everything is sitting at her cervix but she hasn’t pushed anything through her cervix. The vet wants us to sit tight until her cervix relaxes a bit more. She may still have a normal delivery, so we’ll give her a chance. If it is a red bag, the placenta should be attached until she really begins to deliver.” What the heck is a red bag? ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@LilyoftheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheField)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/885 "2010-04-08T04:06:57Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > When asked if Athena had a previa she answered, “Yes, I think so. It is what it felt like on palpation. I didn’t go into the cervix when I felt it. This might be a red bag if she starts to deliver now.” > > What does she mean by a red bag? I believe that’s when the placenta detaches and is delivered first - thus cutting off blood flow and oxygen to the foal. Potentially fatal for the foal if it is not delivered very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/886 "2010-04-08T04:11:14Z")
> **[Red bag foal in Miniature Horse, Placenta previa, IAMRanch foaling articles](http://iamranch.com/miniredbag.htm)** > > Red bag foal in Miniature Horse, Placenta previa, IAMRanch foaling articles Here are pictures of a red bag birth compared to a normal one. “In a Red Bag birth, the placenta detaches from the mare prematurely and the oxygen supply to the baby is cut off. It is important that the mare be aided and that the baby gets out of momma very quickly. One vet told us that we have only 6 minutes after the placenta detaches until the baby dies.” Poor Athena! ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/887 "2010-04-08T13:27:08Z")
Any news? MareStare is blocked from work. StG ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/888 "2010-04-08T14:57:39Z")
Still noting on the cams. I’ve just looked in on Pacific Pinto, both Silver Creek cams, and Moka. Moka’s out of her stall and the other mares are just standing around. Athena still has her tail wrapped, so the foal is still in her. She’s eating hay and doesn’t look to be in distress. In Athena’s Mare Stare board thread, Barbara Sikkink, Silver Creek’s owner, posted this at 2:10 a.m.: > [@](#): > > She is resting quietly. The leaking seems to have stopped, so I am not as concerned about her. I have found that it is best to let mother nature do her job and only get involved if things are not going well. At this point, everything is okay. About 20 minutes later she posted that she was headed to bed; then at 2:58: > [@](#): > > Although she has been quiet, her belly is still busy. Her respiration and heart rate are elevated … something is happening, so I’ll continue to watch her closely. At 3:51 a.m. Barbara posted: > [@](#): > > I am having a better feeling about her. If she was really in distress, she wouldn’t have been quiet this long. She was probably just trying to reposition the foal. Her cervix wasn’t relaxed, so she isn’t ready to foal quite yet. She will probably wait until Rachael gets home and it is time for me to take a nap. Poor Barbara! Her last post on the board came at around 6:00 a.m.! ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/889 "2010-04-08T15:17:01Z")
Shoot. I was just reading the Mare Stare boards to find out about Athena but, as usual, **ETF** beat me to it! And thanks for the PM, **ETF!** At least I didn’t miss it. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/890 "2010-04-08T16:00:17Z")
I’m glad she seems okay. I wish they’d have the vet out, though. StG ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/891 "2010-04-08T16:28:39Z")
Checking the Silver Creek website, I see that Barbara Sikkink isn’t the owner; she’s the farm manager. Credentials: Manager: Barbara Sikkink Breeding & Management Experience - 8 years - veterinary techinician - 15 years - office manager - 20 years - horse breeding & mare / foal management ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/892 "2010-04-08T16:40:03Z")
Oh, man, as if poor Barbara didn’t have enough to worry about: Googling her name, I came across a notice of foreclosure against her and a Wade Rogers. The property description sounds like it’s a personal home. Auction is scheduled for May 4th. Huh – on another website she’s listed as a trainee judge for the American Ferret Association! And she’s bred and showed Akitas. ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/893 "2010-04-08T18:45:32Z")
On MareStare there is a little dog about to have puppies! [http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=mrun3](http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=mrun3) ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@LilyoftheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheField)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/894 "2010-04-08T19:00:27Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > On MareStare there is a little dog about to have puppies! [http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=mrun3](http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=mrun3) heh, heh, funny you should mention that palo - I just happened to be watching that! and thanks for the link to the redbag foaling - it was fascinating. More drama in just a few minutes than a lot of full length movies I’ve seen! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/895 "2010-04-08T22:13:33Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > On MareStare there is a little dog about to have puppies! [http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=mrun3](http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=mrun3) Puppy out, mom licking madly, and a towel-sign: “BOY”. Only one puppy? Or did I click in just as the first of several was born? The Twitter entry says “She is due to have four or five puppies.” ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@LilyoftheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheField)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/896 "2010-04-08T22:16:13Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Puppy out, mom licking madly, and a towel-sign: “BOY”. Only one puppy? Or did I click in just as the first of several was born? The Twitter entry says “She is due to have four or five puppies.” well, i’m thinking its the first! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/897 "2010-04-08T22:21:39Z")
Human took puppy away (to dry it?) then gave it back. Took out stained newspapers and just put down fresh. Mamma dog is currently curled around puppy, licking, not popping out anything else (yet). Wouldn’t she be bipping out all the puppies in fairly rapid order? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/898 "2010-04-08T22:37:17Z")
Okay, I just read at a dog info site that there can be two hours between pups. “If she labors for more than three hours between pups, she **may** be in trouble.” So all is okay, then. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/899 "2010-04-08T23:19:10Z")
Anyone know what happened to Moka? Her stall’s been empty all day. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800/900 "2010-04-08T23:29:59Z")
Two puppies now! Drat, I wasn’t watching when number two arrived. Moka’s back now – probably was turned out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-foaling-cam/531800.md?page=46)