# Live Free or Die Hard! I can't wait!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 24, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482 "2007-02-24T06:05:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/1 "2007-02-24T06:05:01Z")

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The next Die Hard movie will be coming out July 4th. I saw a trailer for it tonight at the theatre! Bruce Willis is THE MAN.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/2 "2007-02-24T06:15:32Z")

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I saw the trailer for this before Reno 911: Miami today. What’s up with the over the top patriotic theme?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/3 "2007-02-24T06:18:30Z")

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WHO CARES?!?!? It’s another “Die Hard” movie and I’m looking forward to it. If it’s not “over the top” it wouldn’t be a “Die Hard” movie.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_C](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Captain\_C](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_C)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/4 "2007-02-24T07:13:04Z")

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If it doesn’t have Sam Jackson in it, it will never be better than the 3rd one.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/5 "2007-02-24T14:45:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain\_C]  
If it doesn’t have Sam Jackson in it, it will never be better than the 3rd one.  
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No. 3 wasn’t that great, despite the presence of Sam Jackson. The film was hardly a **Die Hard** at all - it was more of a sequal to **Speed**. Too much puzzle-solving, not enough shooting. **Die Hard** films are all about Bruce Willis shooting people, and the mocking them.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/6 "2007-02-24T15:06:39Z")

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I just watched the trailer. It looks like your standard shoot-em-up, blow-em-up, summer sequel.

I can’t wait to see it.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/7 "2007-02-24T18:02:41Z")

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As long as its better than **Die Hard 2: Die Harder**.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/8 "2007-02-24T18:51:41Z")

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I loved all three, and I hope this one carries the torch admirably. Hi-Five to Bruce!

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/9 "2007-02-24T19:16:05Z")

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**Die Hard 2** just about had as many plot holes as I’ve seen a major motion picture have.  
I love action but (c.f. **24** ) if it is too implausible then forget it.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/10 "2007-02-24T20:26:04Z")

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I’m looking forward to it as well. I have to admit, this is the movie I’m cheering for the most this summer.

In my mind, I know it should suck, but I am hoping for it to be great. My wife and I may be there opening weekend, unless the reviews are horrible.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/11 "2007-02-24T22:06:06Z")

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There is one scene in the trailer that blows my mind.  
I really want to know how they did the shot from street level of the guy falling out of the window on to the hood of the car. Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/12 "2007-02-25T01:40:08Z")

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[QUOTE=adam yax]  
There is one scene in the trailer that blows my mind.  
I really want to know how they did the shot from street level of the guy falling out of the window on to the hood of the car. Amazing.  
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[Bill Hicks] Terminally. Ill. Stuntmen.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/13 "2007-02-25T01:58:24Z")

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Seriously? The original _Die Hard_ was a masterpiece of ruthless efficiency in screenwriting and plot development. There isn’t a single shot, comment, or action that is wasted, and the cusp of the film–with Willis walking in and shooting Hans and the henchman “like John Wayne”, and then struggling to release the Rolex watch (purchased by the pestiferous Ellis—greatest throwaway character in the film)–was one of the most brilliant culimations ever. The thing is puzzle-fitted together like a Chinese Box. Bruce Willis offers a competent performance–essentialy the same one as he has done in every movie since–but Alan Rickman and Alexander Gudonov shine as the villians, aptly supported by a cast of great character actors.

_Die Hard II_ was a quick cash-in, a movie that made very little sense in any context (why can’t they just take over the plane and have the guy land at some regional airport before anybody even knows what’s going on?). _Die Hard III_ was just a painful mess, like leftovers of _The Long Kiss Goodbye_, a vastly superior outing for Samuel L. Jackson.

This thing? From the trailer, it just looks like _Really Big Explosions XXVIII_, combined with some tired self-referential humor by guys who missed seeing _Kiss Kiss Bang Bang_. Thanks, but I’ll stay home and watch the original, adn the follow it up with a Sam Peckinpah masterpiece like _The Wild Bunch_ or _The Getaway_. And Bruce Willis doesn’t hold a candle to Steve McQueen. Heck, I don’t think he could even take on Sigorney Weaver and come out unbroken.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/14 "2007-02-25T02:54:07Z")

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I agree with **Stranger**.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/15 "2007-02-25T03:08:36Z")

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I agree with **Stranger** , a perfect summary.

However, I can’t help it, I am looking forward to this movie. I do not even know why. Bruce Willis as John McClane just works.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Captain\_C](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Captain\_C](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_C)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/16 "2007-02-25T04:11:59Z")

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As my local TV affiliate version of **Die Hard 2** said one lonley sunday afternoon: “Yippie Ki-yay, Mr. Man” 😃

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-free-or-die-hard-i-cant-wait/393482/17 "2007-02-25T13:11:17Z")

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I add in that I think **Stranger** nailed it.

BTW, if you’re interested in serious film scholarship and study of action movies, I heartily recommend a book called _Action Speaks Louder_ by Eric Lichtenfeld. Very thorough and excellent analysis.\*

- [sub]I say it, even if I do know the author[/sub]
