# Live version of Led Zep playing "Kashmir" with a full orchestra

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**Created:** [March 18, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100 "2012-03-18T01:45:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/1 "2012-03-18T01:45:10Z")

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Is there a video some where showing Led Zeppelin doing _Kashmir_ with full orchestra on the web?

I thought I saw it a while back, but can’t seem to find it now.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/2 "2012-03-18T01:47:39Z")

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[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkvaq\_led-zeppelin-orchestra-kashmir\_music](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkvaq_led-zeppelin-orchestra-kashmir_music)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/3 "2012-03-18T01:52:40Z")

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I think that is the Plant & Page tour and not technically Led Zep. I saw one of the shows in New Jersey they did on that tour and that was what I immediately thought of when I saw the thread title.

I can’t believe the tour was that long ago already: [Page and Plant - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_and_Plant)

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/4 "2012-03-18T02:38:36Z")

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Maybe tge Atlantic Records 40th anniversary concert? I remember it closed with Plant, Page, Jones, and Jason Bonham doing Kashmir. Maybe with an orchestra…

Joe

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/5 "2012-03-18T02:41:43Z")

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I’m not feeling charitable towards Led Zeppelin these days.

I shoot School of Rock performances. The School has a long history with Zep, performing their songs regularly. In order to apply to become an “All-Star”, one of the top players in each local school and form a band with kids from other schools and tour, they have to submit a Led Zeppelin cover.

I shoot the concert and put songs up on YouTube. The content ID system identifies the song and tells me that ads from the record company will appear next to the video. Everybody happy.

That’s not good enough for Zep. No, they are actually blocking the videos I shot of _Kashmir_ and _The Battle of Evermore_ in the US!

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/6 "2012-03-18T03:21:33Z")

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gaffa, are Page/Plant/Jones doing that, or is it their lawyers and bean counters?

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/7 "2012-03-18T03:57:42Z")

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> [@Esox\_Lucius](#):
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> gaffa, are Page/Plant/Jones doing that, or is it their lawyers and bean counters?

Odds are it is the latter. Also Plant & Page own the rights to their songs or is it Capitol?

The odds are it is a corporation like Capitol, whose lawyers and bean counters just do this in every case. I doubt it is Plant & Page.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/8 "2012-03-18T03:59:40Z")

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That was cool.

What’s up with that weird strip of ‘buttons’ on Paige’s goldtop, on the face of the body, above the strings near the pickup selector?

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/9 "2012-03-18T04:22:58Z")

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I don’t know, but I feel violated for it.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/10 "2012-03-18T05:25:58Z")

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> [@Esox\_Lucius](#):
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> gaffa, are Page/Plant/Jones doing that, or is it their lawyers and bean counters?

The lawyers and bean counters appreciate getting the advertising space. That is the way with every other artist the School of Rock kids have covered on my channel. I shoot something like 22 School of Rock concerts per year. Each show focuses on either a specific band or a genre. During the last season, I shot tributes to The Stones, The Doors, Metallica, 60s Rock, Protest Rock, Grunge Rock and Pink Floyd (the kids did [The Dark Side of the Moon with the Wizard of Oz being projected on them](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTJ7JFhLoAU).) Almost all of them have “Matched third party content”, and say that an ad will appear next to it. Which is fine by me.

Only Led Zeppelin actually blocks content. They have a very restrictive policy, and that extends to film-makers as well, like them famously refusing to license _Stairway to Heaven_ for _Almost Famous_.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/11 "2012-03-18T13:53:14Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> That was cool.
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> What’s up with that weird strip of ‘buttons’ on Paige’s goldtop, on the face of the body, above the strings near the pickup selector?

Don’t know, but there is an extension to the tailpiece, too. Since Kashmir is played in DADGAD tuning, could it be an aftermarket Robot tuner with push buttons for diff tunings??

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/12 "2012-03-19T05:27:03Z")

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By the way, that was a kick-ass violin solo (if kick-ass is the right term to use for a symphonic violinist).

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Only Led Zeppelin actually blocks content. They have a very restrictive policy, and that extends to film-makers as well, like them famously refusing to license _Stairway to Heaven_ for _Almost Famous_.

If that’s the case, I guess I can see that they’d want some control over their songs, although you’d think that would be a hopeless cause by now. On the other hand, as an ex-shooter myself who liked to have his work shown to as wide an audience as possible, I can sympathize with you, so I guess all I can say is best of luck.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/14 "2012-03-19T14:58:35Z")

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According to a LZ website, the guitar in the video is a [Goldtop Gibson Les Paul Classic Premium Plus](http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/studio-and-live-gear/222-goldtop-gibson-lp-premium-plus1) with an [AxCent Tuning System](http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/studio-and-live-gear/1298).

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/15 "2012-03-19T15:40:40Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Only Led Zeppelin actually blocks content. They have a very restrictive policy, and that extends to film-makers as well, like them famously refusing to license _Stairway to Heaven_ for _Almost Famous_.

Hence the “No Stairway!” joke in _Wayne’s World_.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/16 "2012-03-19T16:58:32Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> According to a LZ website, the guitar in the video is a [Goldtop Gibson Les Paul Classic Premium Plus](http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/studio-and-live-gear/222-goldtop-gibson-lp-premium-plus1) with an [AxCent Tuning System](http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/studio-and-live-gear/1298).

Cool - thanks for the find. My guess was correct! I wonder if AxCent is who Gibson bought when they started making Robot (i.e., their own self-tuning) Guitars. That was a German company…need to check when I have a minute…

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/17 "2012-03-19T17:08:00Z")

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> [@fiddlesticks](#):
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> Hence the “No Stairway!” joke in _Wayne’s World_.

I assumed it was because real-life music store employees got tired of hearing ten or twenty renditions of it every day by budding guitarists wanting to show off. This [IMdB trivia page](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105793/trivia) says we’re both right 😕(which I guess is possible):

\*“The “Stairway to Heaven” guitar riff was changed for the international, cable, and videotape releases to a generic riff because of disputes in obtaining rights to the first five notes of the song, which appear only in the US theatrical release.”

“In the early '70s, some British music shops banned or fined patrons for playing “Stairway to Heaven” because it was played so often. Hence the sign: “No ‘Stairway to Heaven’” when Wayne plays the guitar in the store.”\*

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/18 "2012-03-19T17:29:00Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> According to a LZ website, the guitar in the video is a [Goldtop Gibson Les Paul Classic Premium Plus](http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/studio-and-live-gear/222-goldtop-gibson-lp-premium-plus1) with an [AxCent Tuning System](http://www.led-zeppelin.org/joomla/studio-and-live-gear/1298).

Sweet – thanks for tracking that down!

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-version-of-led-zep-playing-kashmir-with-a-full-orchestra/616100/19 "2012-03-24T22:24:21Z")

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I believe the OP is referring to the Jimmy Page and Robert Plant (Unledded) [No Quarter concert](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Quarter:_Jimmy_Page_and_Robert_Plant_Unledded), filmed in Morocco, Wales, and London. I have the dvd and haven’t watched it in ages. Thanks for reminding me!
