# Live World Series Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 27, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590 "2010-10-27T23:10:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/121 "2010-10-31T00:27:10Z")

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Well, maybe that double play will turn things around for the Giants…  
Though I’m not certain they actually got either man out…

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/122 "2010-10-31T00:28:14Z")

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OK, I guess it didn’t.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/123 "2010-10-31T00:29:51Z")

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I think the guy was out at 2nd and safe at 1st.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/124 "2010-10-31T00:31:50Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> What? It assumes nothing about random pitching at all.

Well it assumes equal pitching at least. You aren’t trying to get people to ground into double plays with two outs, which will affect what will get through as a hit or not, to name one example.  
EDIT: I thought safe at second and out at first. Not a bad call by either umpire. I’d not be upset for it going either way either place.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/125 "2010-10-31T00:38:40Z")

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OK, the Giants need to start being real patient at the plate and try to get Lewis to throw a bunch of pitches. If we can get past him and into the bullpen, we might have a shot at this still.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/126 "2010-10-31T00:39:09Z")

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> Well it assumes equal pitching at least. You aren’t trying to get people to ground into double plays with two outs, which will affect what will get through as a hit or not, to name one example.

True enough.

I’d be surprised, though, if that made a huge difference. And certainly not over 15 at-bats, which is what the graphic was talking about.

Anyway, that double play call turned out to be pretty big. If both Rangers had been called safe, it might now be 6-0 instead of 4-0 after Hamilton’s blast.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/127 "2010-10-31T00:44:26Z")

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Yeah. I would be interested in what the stats junkies had to say on it and other situations. Not enough to do any work on finding it, but if it was linked I’d read it.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/128 "2010-10-31T00:47:37Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Here’s a question for you.
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> Has anyone ever had their numbered retired by a team for doing less for that team than Nolan Ryan and the Texas Rangers? (Leaving aside the case of Jackie Robinson, whose number is retired by all teams.)

Wade Boggs with the Devil Rays

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/129 "2010-10-31T00:58:26Z")

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> [@Hawkeyeop](#):
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> Wade Boggs with the Devil Rays

Good one.

I wonder why they retired his number. I guess at the time there wasn’t a lot going for them.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/130 "2010-10-31T01:00:53Z")

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Oh, and my word, Bengie Molina is slow, isn’t he?

It’s the seventh inning so anything can happen, but if this goes the way it’s going now, we’re facing the prospect of a 2-1 Series in which none of the three games have been particularly good ballgames, which is disappointing. But if the Rangers win there shall be plenty more baseball.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/131 "2010-10-31T01:03:13Z")

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> [@Hawkeyeop](#):
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> Wade Boggs with the Devil Rays

I was just looking at some of the retired numbers around the league. Can someone please explain Jim Umbrict of the Astros (Colt 45’s)? He played a grand total of five years in the majors, two with the Colt 45’s, mostly as a reliever, winning nine games and saving three.

Nevermind, I read his Wikipedia page - died young from cancer. There should be an informal rule that a team must wait five years after a player’s retirement before retiring their number. The Denver Broncos have a “Ring of Fame” in the stadium and I’ve only heard of about half of the players on it.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/132 "2010-10-31T01:05:14Z")

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That’s more like it. Four more of those, please.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/133 "2010-10-31T01:05:43Z")

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All right, Cody!

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/134 "2010-10-31T01:06:39Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Oh, and my word, Bengie Molina is slow, isn’t he?
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> It’s the seventh inning so anything can happen, but if this goes the way it’s going now, we’re facing the prospect of a 2-1 Series in which none of the three games have been particularly good ballgames, which is disappointing. But if the Rangers win there shall be plenty more baseball.

Yes, I think Molina might be the slowest guy in the Big Leagues.

Game 2 was actually quite a good game up until there were 2 out in the bottom of the 8th…

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/135 "2010-10-31T01:20:40Z")

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Bengie may be slow, but I was elated to hear him hit for the cycle while I was driving pizzas this summer 😃

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/136 "2010-10-31T01:21:42Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Good one.
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> I wonder why they retired his number. I guess at the time there wasn’t a lot going for them.

I believe they were trying to get him to go into the hall with a Devil Rays uniform.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/137 "2010-10-31T01:24:27Z")

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If I hear them talk about Cliff Lee one more time I may throw something through my TV. He’s not even in this freakin’ game, nor tomorrow night’s. Can we talk about THIS game?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/138 "2010-10-31T01:25:43Z")

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OK, here’s where it starts to get interesting…

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/139 "2010-10-31T01:30:19Z")

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Lets see if the rangers blow another lead with their best reliever not in there.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/live-world-series-thread/558590/140 "2010-10-31T01:37:12Z")

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Someone speculated on the Giants postgame show after game 2 that maybe Feliz might be injured, and that was why Washington didn’t use him. Anyone know if there might have been any truth to that?

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