If the current Great Recession has taught us anything, it is that economists of all stripes can be, and almost certainly are, wrong.
Then his loss will hurt the company, and some other company will gain his sterling talents.
Well online society has a ton of libertarians infesting it. People who sprang forth from the head of Zeus, perfectly formed, owing no one anything, superbly capable and sneering at the snotty crowds of mere humans who dare to complain of poverty.
Yah, jobs are easy to get. He should totally quit! Right now!
Paying for internet connection does cometh first I guess.
I know. And I can’t believe that people are stopping you from helping him, too!
Seriously, if you don’t want to live in such a society, why don’t you do something about it? Give all the money you don’t need to survive to charity.
I think this guy is deluded and has a warped sense of reality:
No flipping way. At 50 person facility, maybe the facility manager is pulling a 6 figure salary. Maybe. Everyone else? No way. You can see a chart of salaries here: http://www.indeed.com/salary/Plant-Manager.html.
Nope. Can’t see any reason why management would be increasing productivity goals and shit canning people.
In the long run, it’ll hurt the company, if they lay off good workers or just pay them so low that anyone who has a choice will go somewhere else. In the short run, it’ll help the company’s bottom line if they don’t have to spend so much on labor—and too often it seems that the short run is all the CEOs and decision-makers care about.
I’m honored you think so much of my skills that my money could single-handedly change society. Alas, it isn’t so.
Plenty of ways to get free internet if you know where to look. Some cities still provide it for free. And there’s the public library and the many, many restaurants that offer wifi (some McDonalds, Wendy and Burger Kings do, so we’re not talking a lot of expense). And there’s wardriving. Though I guess warbiking or warwalking would be smarter for this guy.
The use of this phrase means there’s about a 9 in 10 chance the writer doesn’t give a shit about anyone’s problems but his own and people’s like him.
Sure, it’s possible. I just did it in 2008. I joined the Army and saved some capital. I invested that in a house and rented out the rooms to people. I did school in the morning and worked child care in the evenings. It was hard being in the war and it was hard working all day, every day. But I’m debt-free with a six-figure income because I planned it that way.
Are you kidding me?! We love an underdog, up-by-the-bootstraps, just-deserts story! Why do you think we put ol’ Joe the Plumber on a national stage? Why do you think it’s always “rah-rah, small businesses!”?
What we don’t like to see is the game being rigged so that everyone gets a ribbon at the end of the day.
They would be if this guy bothered to acquire any skills over his life. That’s my (our?) point. If he can’t find another job, he should take it as a sign that no one wants him, and be thankful for the one company that still does. If he can find a job, then he should cuss out those greedy salaried employees and hit the road.
Man, that sounds a lot harder than asking for a handout. I think I’ll pass. Thanks for nothin’.
Do you deny that the increase in productivity we saw over the last decade or so was not reflected in pay? Or are you saying that the increase in productivity was solely due to those brilliant CEOs whose pay did explode?
Those gains in productivity came, in substantial part, by automating tasks formerly performed by unskilled labor, such as pick list fulfillment. Broseph should be thankful he’s got a job at all, and should be mindful that the day is nigh upon us when his position goes the way of elevator operators.
Say, let’s find all those out-of-work elevator operators, put them back in elevators, and pay them a living wage of $40K! Who’s with me?!? Voyager, rogerbox, erislover, I’m gonna need you guys to cover payroll for the first little bit, but I’m sure you won’t mind—I know you can’t bear the thought of those poor elevator operators struggling.
It did not come because the guy and his co-workers only want to work hard enough not to get fired.
I believe the opposite. Capitalism is supposed to be a strong and robust system. If it can’t produce broad prosperity then what good is it? Lining the pockets of the 1% isn’t much of a goal for me. I expect most companies could do just fine paying a living wage. Their profit margins would be smaller but so would all of their competitors. Some companies would fail, sure. But we aren’t looking for equality of outcome, after all. If they can only survive by paying scab wages then those are companies we can do without.
What a joke.
I have zero sympathy for the writer of the article that the OP linked to, nor do I believe a majority of what the writer wrote. One quick click on the author’s RSS feed shows that he is nothing more than a typical “Teabaggers, Republiturds and Corporations are the suxor and I am owed better than what I have but shouldn’t have to work for it” OWS idiot.
So he’s been at this job for over 5 years and still only makes $8.00/hour. That says a lot more about him, than about his employers. Let’s look at maybe why he’s stuck at the bottom. Apparently, he’s been looking for a new job at least since March 2010, when his evil Republican boss opressed him. I know that 2 years is a short time to find a new job, especially with the tough standards of $8/hour and less than 45 minutes away. Especially in such a small town as Nashville. :rolleyes:
But all that aside, he also mentions about his boss:
Really? So when you make fun of your boss with your coworkers and intentionally wear clothing to anger your boss, then write a public article making fun of him, you’re surprised you’re not on the top of the list for promotions and raises?
Bottom line is that this author is just another typical OWS drum banger. No skills, no motivation, no work ethic, but still thinks the world owes him much more.
Actually, Bricker, aren’t you a Catholic? And doesn’t Catholic teaching say something about workers being entitled to a minimum standard of living?
A bit of searching turned up this quote from the Rerum Novarum encyclical:
And those people kicked out by automation, like elevator operators, don’t make any money at all. But those who are left are making effective use of the automation to create value for their company. 30 years ago our secretaries typed letters and reports, filled in forms, and made manual reservations. Today our admin does the work of 3 secretaries in the old days and has to know a variety of far more complex applications than our old secretaries ever did. Hell, even the person taking orders at the take out window does the work of 2, juggling taking orders from the intercom and filling orders at the window. They are also more productive - why shouldn’t they get at least some of it?