# Living while black in America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/261 "2018-07-14T09:37:23Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Really? Well, that makes one of us 🙂 Hell, we’ve been in a bunch of the same threads in recent months, and you definitely add to the quality of the discussion. > [@](#): > > Yeah, stuff seems more cogent sometimes when one has been drinking. My bad. Apology accepted. We all have moments like that. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/262 "2018-07-14T11:20:54Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I didn’t see anyone who defended his firing answer the question of whether they would consider the firing justified if the facts were as described in the first scenario here: If it wasn’t clear in that thread - yes, I would consider the firing justified. Not the first offense, but repeating it for the second. Of course, the real-life scenario includes the missing information that he was confronted \*\*\*immediately after \*\*\*the first incident, _ **and apologized then** _. So by incident 2, he already knew _and seemingly acknowledged_ his use of the word was offensive. Or his apology after incident 2 wasn’t sincere. Which may explain why he didn’t bring up either incident later when addressing a meeting of Black Netflix staff who all clearly knew about incident 1, at least, given their reported reaction after _that_ meeting. Either way,\* that’s\* the scenario under which he was he was actually fired, **bobot**. > [@](#): > > And, I mean: is Netflix never going to air programming in which white characters (in period pieces, or who are nasty pieces of work from the present day) use this word without euphemizing it? If they do, will white producers, directors, etc., not be allowed to say what’s in the script verbatim? That’s \*exactly \*what they’re going to do, yes, if we believe the head of the studio. I don’t see how it’s _fraught_, any more than we allow people to assault others, expose themselves, and generally do other things in fiction, in front of cameras, that we don’t let them get away with outside that - _even on a movie set_. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/263 "2018-07-14T11:24:34Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > But nothing has been revealed that is inconsistent with it being the milder one. Like fuck it is. It’s _absolutely clear_ it’s NOT \*just \*scenario one as given there. Unless you’re saying the head of Netflix is lying, which not even Friedland has claimed. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/264 "2018-07-14T16:47:21Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > If it wasn’t clear in that thread - yes, I would consider the firing justified. Not the first offense, but repeating it for the second. > > Of course, the real-life scenario includes the missing information that he was confronted \*\*\*immediately after \*\*\*the first incident, _ **and apologized then** _. So by incident 2, he already knew _and seemingly acknowledged_ his use of the word was offensive. Or his apology after incident 2 wasn’t sincere. Which may explain why he didn’t bring up either incident later when addressing a meeting of Black Netflix staff who all clearly knew about incident 1, at least, given their reported reaction after _that_ meeting. > > Either way,\* that’s\* the scenario under which he was he was actually fired, **bobot**. > > That’s \*exactly \*what they’re going to do, yes, if we believe the head of the studio. > > I don’t see how it’s _fraught_, any more than we allow people to assault others, expose themselves, and generally do other things in fiction, in front of cameras, that we don’t let them get away with outside that - _even on a movie set_. In the tradition of Django Unchanged, if a white person is required to say racist slurs by the script, they must do it while Samuel Jackson glares at them. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/265 "2018-07-14T18:11:18Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Like fuck it is. It’s _absolutely clear_ it’s NOT \*just \*scenario one as given there. > > Unless you’re saying the head of Netflix is lying, which not even Friedland has claimed. Cite? I’m not claiming to have read every article about this, but I did read four or five—and none of them contradicted that first scenario. Nor did anyone in that thread subsequently claim (as you are here) that it was contradicted by the undisputed facts of the case. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/266 "2018-07-14T22:15:35Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Cite? I’m not claiming to have read every article about this, but I did read four or five—and none of them contradicted that first scenario. Nor did anyone in that thread subsequently claim (as you are here) that it was contradicted by the undisputed facts of the case. …why the fuck have you chosen to hijack this thread with this nonsense? Go start your own thread you racist prick. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/267 "2018-07-14T22:30:08Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Cite? I’m not claiming to have read every article about this, but I did read four or five—and none of them contradicted that first scenario. Nor did anyone in that thread subsequently claim (as you are here) that it was contradicted by the undisputed facts of the case. I’d suggest going back and reading the thread that got locked. Everything he is saying was shown in that thread. He’s really just repeating himself. Also, maybe reread the memo, as his description fits the memo, while yours leaves out parts. And, yeah, I agree–this thread isn’t about litigating the details of that other thread. Start a new one about that topic if you want. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/268 "2018-07-14T22:32:14Z")
Has the incident where [Florida cops were told to blame unsolved crimes on random black people](http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/396720-florida-police-chief-told-officers-to-pin-unsolved-crimes-on-random-black) shown up in this thread yet? I did see it the cops thread, but didn’t see it while skimming this thread. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/269 "2018-07-15T02:28:50Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …why the fuck have you chosen to hijack this thread with this nonsense? Go start your own thread you racist prick. Suck it, Jesus! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/270 "2018-07-15T04:19:15Z")
White guy screams at black woman minding her own business on the road, calling her a monkey, using the N word, and telling her to go back to Africa. When the video of the incident was posted on Facebook, Facebook took it down. [https://twitter.com/Lynn\_TG/status/1018164529266610176](https://twitter.com/Lynn_TG/status/1018164529266610176) Muslim kids asked to leave a public pool for violating a nonexistent rule. > **[Muslim swimmers asked to leave Wilmington public pool; mayor apologizes](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/07/14/wilmington-public-pool-policy-muslim-swimmers-swimwear/785606002/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=usatn-crosspost-fb)** > > A Muslim camp leader said her children were forced out of the Foster Brown public pool in Wilmington based on an unwritten rule. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/271 "2018-07-15T10:04:00Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Cite? “Cite?” Look at the racist motherfucker, thinking this is GD and all. Fuck off back to your troll-hole, fuckstick. I’m only going to continue this hijack in a new thread, if it’s in the Pit - if you have the balls to make one, that is, snowflake. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/272 "2018-07-15T12:40:25Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > White guy screams at black woman minding her own business on the road, calling her a monkey, using the N word, and telling her to go back to Africa. When the video of the incident was posted on Facebook, Facebook took it down. > [https://twitter.com/Lynn\_TG/status/1018164529266610176](https://twitter.com/Lynn_TG/status/1018164529266610176) Trump’s White Trash Nation - emboldened. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/273 "2018-07-15T13:32:12Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Has the incident where [Florida cops were told to blame unsolved crimes on random black people](http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/396720-florida-police-chief-told-officers-to-pin-unsolved-crimes-on-random-black) shown up in this thread yet? I did see it the cops thread, but didn’t see it while skimming this thread. I posted it upthread. But I don’t know if anyone noticed it. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/274 "2018-07-15T13:46:29Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > “Cite?” Look at the racist motherfucker, thinking this is GD and all. Fuck off back to your troll-hole, fuckstick. > > I’m only going to continue this hijack in a new thread, if it’s in the Pit - if you have the balls to make one, that is, snowflake. Eat me. I already took the suggestion to read carefully through all of that thread, so unless you have something new (which you obviously don’t), it’s pretty clear you’re just going with the same bluster you had there, cranked up for the Pit—even though a close read of Reed Hastings’ memo gleans nothing that contradicts _either_ version of events. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/275 "2018-07-15T13:58:13Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Eat me. No thanks. Racists give me gas. > [@](#): > > a close read of Reed Hastings’ memo gleans nothing that contradicts _either_ version of events. Illiterate as well as cowardly it is, then. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/276 "2018-07-15T14:35:26Z")
If you have light to shed, start the thread and link here, and I will be there with bells on. Otherwise this is my last comment—hijack over. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/277 "2018-07-15T14:48:00Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > if you have the balls to make one, that is, snowflake. > [@SlackerInc](#): > > If you have light to shed, start the thread and link here, and I will be there with bells on. What are you going to tie the bells to, given that you have no balls? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/278 "2018-07-15T14:53:13Z")
Anyone else feel that MrDibble and SlackerInc are about to start making out? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/279 "2018-07-15T18:28:13Z")
A Donald Trump delegate to the RNC convention, a manger at a CVS store, calls cops on a black woman for trying to use a coupon. [Coupon dispute prompts white CVS manager to call police on black woman: report | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/15/coupon-dispute-prompts-white-cvs-manager-to-call-police-on-black-woman-report.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/280 "2018-07-15T18:33:44Z")
Bus driver tells would-be passenger he didn’t pick him up because he’s black. > **[Martha's Vineyard bus driver fired after telling man he wasn't picked up...](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/bus-driver-fired-telling-man-wasnt-picked-up-because-hes-black/)** > > The Martha's Vineyard Transit Authority says the exchange was caught on video Wednesday afternoon [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=15)