# Living while black in America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/21 "2018-07-10T00:21:33Z")

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During a funeral a white priest kicked out an entire black family, including the deceased, after someone accidentally knocked over the chalice. He reportedly yelled “get that thing out of here” in reference to the deceased.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/07/03/d-c-area-catholic-priest-placed-on-leave-after-throwing-mourners-out-of-a-maryland-church/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/07/03/d-c-area-catholic-priest-placed-on-leave-after-throwing-mourners-out-of-a-maryland-church/)

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/22 "2018-07-10T01:02:46Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> What I do in that situation is not worry about the footwear of patrons of the pool, and just make sure everyone is having a good time.

I agree if no harm is done or explicit rules are broken. But socks might be a health violation or something. Good times are fine but not at the expense of the public’s health.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/23 "2018-07-10T01:13:48Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> "Woman wears a Puerto Rico shirt.
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> A man confronts her for wearing it, repeatedly approaches her within a couple feet, and questions her citizenship.
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> When the woman pleads for a nearby police officer to keep the man back from her, he ignores her."
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> [https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1016412423278825474/video/1](https://t.co/0YwG1rIuSl)

…the officer involved is currently on desk duty, pending an investigation. But that was horrible to watch. The officer did **nothing**. Literally nothing while the man intimidated the lady, stared her down and kept pushing for a confrontation. For minutes. Yet the instant the black man got involved and did no-more than what the white guy did the officer intervened.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/24 "2018-07-10T01:18:30Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I agree if no harm is done or explicit rules are broken. But socks might be a health violation or something. Good times are fine but not at the expense of the public’s health.

Sure. And the person calling the cops should 1) Make sure they are actually against the rules and 2) Ask the person nicely to remove them.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/25 "2018-07-10T02:00:25Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> But socks might be a health violation or something. Good times are fine but not at the expense of the public’s health.

God forbid somebody wear socks in the pool. Wouldn’t want to get the dicks, cunts, and assholes dirty.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/26 "2018-07-10T02:09:42Z")

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It is so strange that folks are freaking out about socks being in the pool, while ignoring the fact that the people’s assholes, dicks, and vaginas are soaking in that same pool. With urine, snot, and saliva added as extra seasoning.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/27 "2018-07-10T02:11:50Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> It is so strange that folks are freaking out about socks being in the pool, while ignoring the fact that the people’s assholes, dicks, and vaginas are soaking in that same pool. With urine, snot, and saliva added as extra seasoning.

> [@black\_rabbit](#):
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> God forbid somebody wear socks in the pool. Wouldn’t want to get the dicks, cunts, and assholes dirty.

:: resolves never to get into a public pool again ::

…

☹

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/28 "2018-07-10T02:23:33Z")

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> [@black\_rabbit](#):
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> God forbid somebody wear socks in the pool. Wouldn’t want to get the dicks, cunts, and assholes dirty.

> [@monstro](#):
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> It is so strange that folks are freaking out about socks being in the pool, while ignoring the fact that the people’s assholes, dicks, and vaginas are soaking in that same pool. With urine, snot, and saliva added as extra seasoning.

I suppose when put that way, what’s the problem with some socks?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/29 "2018-07-10T02:38:38Z")

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Of course, all of these occurrences are clearly the result of that divisive Obama presidency.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/30 "2018-07-10T02:58:19Z")

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There is no question that there are many examples of the such that the op lists (I’m not referencing not the overtly hateful ones).

Question:

Are these occurring out of an assumption that a Black person is up to no good and/or an exertion of power over “the other”,

or

because the caller is too _scared_ of “the other”, the Black person, to approach them directly, and ask what they are doing, or to not mow onto their side of the property line, or to please take off the socks (for whatever reason it bothered them)? Hence asking for the authorities to do it?

Neither makes the circumstance better for the person victimized but I do wonder which is more often going on inside the head of the person who made the call.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/31 "2018-07-10T02:59:27Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Great thread idea, IMO. Hopefully plenty of Dopers will chime in with personal anecdotes as well as goings on around the country.
> 
> For several years of international travel, my wife (a black naturalized citizen) was almost always singled out for additional security screening/interviews upon our return, while I (a white birth citizen) have never been.

You mean a foreign national gets additional scrutiny than a native born American? How shocking. Same thing happened to my Japanese born wife.

Way to feed the troll.

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**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/32 "2018-07-10T03:23:14Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> You mean a foreign national gets additional scrutiny than a native born American? How shocking. Same thing happened to my Japanese born wife.
> 
> Way to feed the troll.

It’s about time white folks be open about their profiling.

Wait a minute, did this clown just call me a troll? Well, sir, I think it’s shitty that you throw your wife under the bus. Your wife is inconvenienced because the color of her skin and you’re OK with that because … reasons? What a clown you are: riding on the high horse of your white privilege while Ofmadsircool is descriminated against. And you’re cool with that. Monster is as a Monster does. Let’s be clear, Commander Madsircool, you weren’t strong enough for a black woman, a white woman, an Asian-American woman, or a latina woman so you snatch a foreigner from her lands, drag her to the US, allow her to be subjected to discrimination, then dismiss the discrimination she receives as routine? Geez. Is Ofmadsircool happy? Does Ofmadsircool to wear red, blue, or grey? How does Ofmadsircool like the weather we’ve been sent? Does Ofmadsircool work, or do you support her financially?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/33 "2018-07-10T03:35:22Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> You mean a foreign national gets additional scrutiny than a native born American? How shocking. Same thing happened to my Japanese born wife.

What part of “naturalized” did you fail to understand? A naturalized citizen is not a foreign national.

> [@](#):
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> Way to feed the troll.

Dammit, now you’ve got me doing it.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/34 "2018-07-10T03:39:26Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> But socks might be a health violation or something. Good times are fine but not at the expense of the public’s health.

The fact that you think there’s any chance whatsoever that socks are a health code violation makes me think you need to wash your nasty-ass socks, octopus, Christ Almighty.

So here’s something I’ve been wondering about.

What the shit?

That is, what the shit is happening here? For real. Why are we hearing about all these incidents? Are racists validated by Trump, and they’re braver with their racist bullshit and more willing to call cops on innocent black people than they were five years ago? Or is the prevalence of cellphones enabling the victims of these racist fucks to record proof of what black people have been going through for yonks? Or is this a hashtag metoo twittertrend moment, where these recordings have been around for a decade or so but are only making news now, for roughly the same reason that fidget spinners made the news this time last year–that is, they’re something shiny for journalists to focus on, and in a year they’ll be forgotten?

Or is it a combination of these things, or something I’m not even seeing?

What the shit, y’all?

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**Author:** ![Dobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Dobbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dobbs)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/35 "2018-07-10T03:53:29Z")

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91-year-old man beaten with brick, told ‘go back to Mexico’

> **[91-year-old man beaten with brick, told 'go back to Mexico' | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/us/mexican-man-beaten-brick-los-angeles/index.html)**
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> Tears glistened on the black and purple bruises covering 91-year-old Rodolfo Rodriguez's face as he described being attacked by a group of people while going for a walk on the Fourth of July.

Police are searching for 4 man and a woman.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/36 "2018-07-10T04:00:45Z")

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> [@Dobbs](#):
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> 91-year-old man beaten with brick, told ‘go back to Mexico’  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/us/mexican-man-beaten-brick-los-angeles/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/us/mexican-man-beaten-brick-los-angeles/index.html)
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> Police are searching for 4 man and a woman.

That was mentioned in the OP.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/37 "2018-07-10T04:04:46Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The fact that you think there’s any chance whatsoever that socks are a health code violation makes me think you need to wash your nasty-ass socks, octopus, Christ Almighty.
> 
> So here’s something I’ve been wondering about.
> 
> What the shit?
> 
> That is, what the shit is happening here? For real. Why are we hearing about all these incidents? Are racists validated by Trump, and they’re braver with their racist bullshit and more willing to call cops on innocent black people than they were five years ago? Or is the prevalence of cellphones enabling the victims of these racist fucks to record proof of what black people have been going through for yonks? Or is this a hashtag metoo twittertrend moment, where these recordings have been around for a decade or so but are only making news now, for roughly the same reason that fidget spinners made the news this time last year–that is, they’re something shiny for journalists to focus on, and in a year they’ll be forgotten?
> 
> Or is it a combination of these things, or something I’m not even seeing?
> 
> What the shit, y’all?

I can’t be the only one with crunchy socks.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/38 "2018-07-10T04:05:22Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> What part of “naturalized” did you fail to understand? A naturalized citizen is not a foreign national.
> 
> Dammit, now you’ve got me doing it.

She was naturalized. 🙂 She saved tens of thousands on university.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/39 "2018-07-10T04:29:26Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Way to feed the troll.

[Trolls ask for permission to start threads?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=858231) How derpy of you.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/40 "2018-07-10T04:30:16Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Fresh today:  
> [Woman fired for calling police on black man wearing socks in pool](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/erica-walker-memphis-woman-fired-calling-police-black-man-wearing-socks-pool-2018-07-09/).

> [@octopus](#):
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> Who wears socks in the pool? ☹

Perhaps at least as much (probably more) to the point, who responds to seeing that by calling the cops?

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