# Living while black in America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/463 "2018-08-03T13:39:19Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > The white folks covered this at [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-origins-of-policing-in-the-united-states/). Further, Turner, Giacopassi and Vandiver, in the [Journal of Criminal Justice Education](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10511250500335627), add that “the literature clearly establishes that a legally sanctioned law enforcement system existed in America before the Civil War for the express purpose of controlling the slave population and protecting the interests of slave owners. The similarities between the slave patrols and modern American policing are too salient to dismiss or ignore. Hence, the slave patrol should be considered a forerunner of modern American law enforcement.” This is also intuitive. You don’t need an official-sounding white person to unpack it. Simply look at the slave catcher badge and compare that to the normal police badge. > > [Picture 1](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnLYM5RWYAA8u72.jpg) > [Picture 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnAxwOIXgAAPkI4.jpg). This is a poor argument, on three fronts. 1. The Snopes article in no way supports your claim that “the star-shaped badges that the military arm of white people wear are derived from the star badges the slave catchers used to wear.” It doesn’t discuss the derivation of badges at all. 2. The quote from the journal talks about “a legally sanctioned law enforcement system” and “a forerunner of modern American law enforcement.” These things are of course true–but you’re implying, if I understand you, that slave-catching was “the legally sanctioned law enforcement system” in the pre-Civil-War US, and that it is “the forerunner of modern American law enforcement.” That minor change makes these things not true. 3. Yeah, the two look similar. You know what else looks similar? [British army badges from the 1600s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_badge#/media/File:Cliffecastlemus_051.jpg). Note the large number of stars in this collection. The use of badges to indicate governmental authority to use violence to enforce government edicts is far older than either modern US policing or 19th-century slave-catching. The fact that a symbol is used by both does not indicate a direct cause-and-effect relationship. Shodan’s an idiot, and octopus is an idiot, and on the larger point, that we have a white supremacist society in which white folks are tremendously advantaged relative to nonwhite folks, you’re 100% right. But you’re offering a lot of shitty arguments in favor of this correct proposition, and I ask you to reflect on whether your objectives would be better served by offering fewer arguments but making sure each one was well-researched and well-founded. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/464 "2018-08-03T14:43:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Just tangential to this discussion, but perhaps illustrative of a lot of the responses in this thread – Why Progressives are Unable To See Their Own Bigotry: > > [White liberal racism: Why progressives are unable to see their own bigotry.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/white-liberal-racism-why-progressives-are-unable-to-see-their-own-bigotry.html) > > Interview with lecturer and diversity specialist Robin DiAngelo (who is white), about white liberal attitudes about racism. iiandyiiii, you didn’t perform the summoning jitsu. I don’t think Robin is going to appear if you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/465 "2018-08-03T16:24:39Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Anyways, how is living while black in America working for you and would another location be more suitable? If I lived in a place that was actively hostile towards me I’d look for a nicer area. Black people, when faced with racism, should get out of the country? That was your witty rejoinder? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/466 "2018-08-03T16:26:15Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s ridiculous to think one group has a monopoly on bigotry. Anyways, how is living while black in America working for you and would another location be more suitable? If I lived in a place that was actively hostile towards me I’d look for a nicer area. By this logic, MLK Jr. and other black Civil Rights protesters should have left the country. If that’s what you believe, then this reflects very poorly on you. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/467 "2018-08-03T16:41:04Z")
I tried. I gave him a chance. OP is an imbecile, at best. No point in following this any further. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/468 "2018-08-03T16:41:39Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > This is a poor argument, on three fronts. > > 1. The Snopes article in no way supports your claim that “the star-shaped badges that the military arm of white people wear are derived from the star badges the slave catchers used to wear.” It doesn’t discuss the derivation of badges at all. > 2. The quote from the journal talks about “a legally sanctioned law enforcement system” and “a forerunner of modern American law enforcement.” These things are of course true–but you’re implying, if I understand you, that slave-catching was “the legally sanctioned law enforcement system” in the pre-Civil-War US, and that it is “the forerunner of modern American law enforcement.” That minor change makes these things not true. > 3. Yeah, the two look similar. You know what else looks similar? [British army badges from the 1600s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_badge#/media/File:Cliffecastlemus_051.jpg). Note the large number of stars in this collection. The use of badges to indicate governmental authority to use violence to enforce government edicts is far older than either modern US policing or 19th-century slave-catching. The fact that a symbol is used by both does not indicate a direct cause-and-effect relationship… Your logic is accurate but I don’t think that link shows what you said it shows. All I see is a big collection of military cap badges, none of which is star shaped (as far as I can see). In any case, it’s also true that many/most city police badges are shields, with stars being mostly reserved for county sheriffs. This would have made an interesting question for Cecil, the origin of the use of stars for U.S. law enforcement badges. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/469 "2018-08-03T16:44:53Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Anyways, how is living while black in America working for you and would another location be more suitable? If I lived in a place that was actively hostile towards me I’d look for a nicer area. You’re seriously saying, “go back to Africa”? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/470 "2018-08-03T16:52:02Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I tried. I gave him a chance. OP is an imbecile, at best. No point in following this any further. OP does not own the thread, and the discussion can proceed without or around him. Let’s not assume that because one person cannot successfully make a case that there is no case to be made. I think it’s clear to anyone with eyes in their head that this thread is highlighting a genuine problem, not only that people of color are routinely treated worse than white people, but that many white people are unable to or refuse to acknowledge it. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/471 "2018-08-03T17:00:24Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > Your response tells me one thing: you’re incapable of engaging in a serious discussion about race. … Dude, tone it down. D-Odds is actually on your side. He even acknowledged that the event might be racist, he was just offering an alternative explanation. Racism in America is a huge deal, and needs to be addressed, but frankly the take no prisoners, all whites are the enemy, racism is the explanation for everything attitude you are promoting in this thread is not helpful. You are acting as the embodiment of every straw-man race warrior stereotype that the right uses to portray BLM and other civil rights movements and reverse-racist and unhinged from reality. If I was a bit more conspiratorially minded I might suspect that you were actually a plant from Russia or the white power movement tasked with discrediting the minority rights movement. Shodan may be a right wing troglodyte but he’s not a KKK grand dragon, and saying he is downplays the evils of the KKK organization. Similarly protraying every event in which something bad happens to a black person as an example of racism dilutes the message from real important examples or legitimate racial disparity. I’m sure you mean well but the way you are posting you are bcoming more part of the problem rather than part of the solution. But then again I’m a white guy so what do I know. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/472 "2018-08-03T17:03:45Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Your logic is accurate but I don’t think that link shows what you said it shows. All I see is a big collection of military cap badges, none of which is star shaped (as far as I can see). Really? I’m counting five stars on the fourth and fifth rows (second and third, if you just count full rows), with a scattering of others on other rows. The military, at that time, could serve as a domestic law enforcement agency (although of course there were vast differences–I recognize this as a simplification). They used badges to denote their membership in this organization, and some of them were metal stars. It seems far likelier to me that both slavecatchers and modern police date from this British tradition than that slavecatchers invented the metallic-star-badge-denoting-governmental-authority-to-use-force independently, and that modern police agencies can trace their metal star badges back to the slavecatchers. But I’d love to see an article on the topic. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/473 "2018-08-03T17:13:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > By this logic, MLK Jr. and other black Civil Rights protesters should have left the country. If that’s what you believe, then this reflects very poorly on you. MLK was a brave man. He was probably much braver than me. I’m not ashamed to admit that if I had faced the hostility that MLK faced that I might not have had the stomach to risk the lives of myself or my family. Anyways, a nicer area isn’t necessarily a different country. It could just be one of the progressive utopian areas of the country or even Canada. I was in Canada. It’s real nice. I’d live in Vancouver. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/474 "2018-08-03T17:26:31Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > The white folks covered this at [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-origins-of-policing-in-the-united-states/). Further, Turner, Giacopassi and Vandiver, in the [Journal of Criminal Justice Education](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10511250500335627), add that “the literature clearly establishes that a legally sanctioned law enforcement system existed in America before the Civil War for the express purpose of controlling the slave population and protecting the interests of slave owners. The similarities between the slave patrols and modern American policing are too salient to dismiss or ignore. Hence, the slave patrol should be considered a forerunner of modern American law enforcement.” This is also intuitive. You don’t need an official-sounding white person to unpack it. Simply look at the slave catcher badge and compare that to the normal police badge. > > [Picture 1](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnLYM5RWYAA8u72.jpg) > [Picture 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnAxwOIXgAAPkI4.jpg). None of which say that the military/sheriffs’ badge is based on the slave patrol badge. Just that slave patrols existed. Which is a no-brainer. If you wish to believe that they’re the origin, that’s your choice, I suppose. On the other hand, I dug up a shitload of other star-shaped military and chivalry orders that – well, see for yourself. (You might have to scroll down for some of them) -[Order of the Thistle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Thistle) (Scotland) -[Royal Order of the Seraphim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Order_of_the_Seraphim) (Sweden) -[Order of Saint Patrick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_St_Patrick) (Ireland) -[Order of Skanderbeg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Skanderbeg_(1925%E2%80%9390)) (Albanian Republic) -[Order of Queen Tamara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Queen_Tamara) (Georgia. That’s the Georgia in EUROPE, btw.) -[Order of Saint Catherine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Catherine) (Russia) -[Order of the Danneborge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dannebrog) (Denmark) -[Order of Saint Andrew](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_St._Andrew) (Russia) -[Order of Leopold](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Leopold_(Belgium)) (Belgium) -[Order of Saint Olav](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_St._Olav) (Norway) -[Order of the Gold Lion of the House of Nassau](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Gold_Lion_of_the_House_of_Nassau) (Luxembourg/Netherlands) -[Order of the British Empire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire) -[New Zealand Order of Merit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Order_of_Merit) -[Order of Saint Stanislaus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Order_of_Merit) (Poland) -[Wilhelmsorden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmsorden) (Hesse-Kassel) -[Order of the Norwegian Lion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Norwegian_Lion) (Norway) -[Order of the Tower and the Sword](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Tower_and_Sword) (Portugal) -[Military Star](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Star) (Ireland) -[Hero of the Russian Federation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_the_Russian_Federation) -[Hero of Labour of the Russian Federation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Labour_of_the_Russian_Federation) -[Order for “Merit to the Fatherland”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_%22For_Merit_to_the_Fatherland%22) (Russia) -[Order of Saint Alexander Nevsky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Alexander_Nevsky) (Russia) -[Order of the White Eagle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_White_Eagle_(Russian_Empire)) (Russia) -[Order of St Stanislaus (House of Romanov)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Stanislaus_(House_of_Romanov)) (Russia) -[Order of Saint Anna](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Anna) (Russia) And then there’s whole shitload of badges from the [Soviet Union](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders,_decorations,_and_medals_of_the_Soviet_Union). (Those Russkies really like their stars) So tell us again how military stars came from slave-catching unit stars? The ONLY one I could find that would have any kind of significance was the [Service Star](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Star_(Congo)). And it was created for the Belgian Congo, not the U.S. Oh, and as a Girl Scout, I think some of our badges might have been stars. (I’m not about to pay four bucks to get access to the 2nd – I’m guessing it’s pretty much the same thing?) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/475 "2018-08-03T17:27:10Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Dude, tone it down. D-Odds is actually on your side. He even acknowledged that the event might be racist, he was just offering an alternative explanation. Racism in America is a huge deal, and needs to be addressed, but frankly the take no prisoners, all whites are the enemy, racism is the explanation for everything attitude you are promoting in this thread is not helpful. > > You are acting as the embodiment of every straw-man race warrior stereotype that the right uses to portray BLM and other civil rights movements and reverse-racist and unhinged from reality. If I was a bit more conspiratorially minded I might suspect that you were actually a plant from Russia or the white power movement tasked with discrediting the minority rights movement. > > Shodan may be a right wing troglodyte but he’s not a KKK grand dragon, and saying he is downplays the evils of the KKK organization. Similarly protraying every event in which something bad happens to a black person as an example of racism dilutes the message from real important examples or legitimate racial disparity. I’m sure you mean well but the way you are posting you are bcoming more part of the problem rather than part of the solution. > > But then again I’m a white guy so what do I know. I’m unconvinced of **Shodan’s** racism. I believe he thinks the OP is a troll and he is whiling away his time poking at the guy. Give him a little more time, and **Huey** will accuse him of being Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/476 "2018-08-03T17:40:41Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > MLK was a brave man. He was probably much braver than me. I’m not ashamed to admit that if I had faced the hostility that MLK faced that I might not have had the stomach to risk the lives of myself or my family. > > Anyways, a nicer area isn’t necessarily a different country. It could just be one of the progressive utopian areas of the country or even Canada. I was in Canada. It’s real nice. I’d live in Vancouver. Yeah, but does Vancouver want you? I highly doubt it. Racism is indeed a huge fucking problem in this country. The OP, however, is also a huge fucking jagoff, and I have no intention of taking the guy seriously. He seems more like a conspiracy theorist than someone who’s genuinely interested in improving race relations here in the U.S\*. He’s starting to remind me of sovereign citizens/freemen on the land who come up all that bullshit about fringe on flags. I’m not about to pay four bucks to get access to his second cite – I’m guessing it’s pretty much the same thing? Either that or he’s just some troll trying to stir things up? He’s amusing, whatever he is. \*I also want to state that I’m not one of those people who think black people should be all nicey-nice and “please, can we have our rights now?” Just that this dude is coo coo for cocoa pops. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/477 "2018-08-03T18:34:09Z")
Cops called on black woman for standing in the doorway out of the rain. > **[Woman called cops on me for standing in doorway during rain](https://nypost.com/2018/08/02/white-woman-called-cops-on-me-for-standing-in-doorway-during-rain/)** > > A Hispanic woman says a Park Slope resident called the cops on her for seeking shelter from the rain in her doorway. Darsell Obregon wrote on Facebook that she was walking to the train in Brooklyn&… ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/478 "2018-08-03T18:39:48Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I’m unconvinced of **Shodan’s** racism. I believe he thinks the OP is a troll and he is whiling away his time poking at the guy. Give him a little more time, and **Huey** will accuse him of being Trump. You are going to ruin my reputation. I don’t think he’s a troll; I think he’s a nut. Sooner or later he’s going to blow up and start using homophobic or anti-transgender slurs or ranting about the Jews or something - i.e. hate speech in the Pit sense of the term - and get banned. Or he will get tired of me laughing at him and everybody else saying “OK there’s racism but you are still a buffoon” and go away on his own. I’m amusing myself at his expense in the meantime. It’s a slow day at work, and I got pretty much everything done except my status report. So here I am. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/479 "2018-08-03T18:44:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Cops called on black woman for standing in the doorway out of the rain. > [White woman accused of calling cops on black woman for standing in doorway in Park Slope](https://nypost.com/2018/08/02/white-woman-called-cops-on-me-for-standing-in-doorway-during-rain/) Aw, c’mon! She has AUTISM! Plus her dad is PUERTO RICAN! It was TRIGGERING! How dare people suggest it was about RACE??? Christ almighty. If you’re gonna call the cops on a black person over some trivial bullshit, and they pull out the camera, pro-tip, folks: back the fuck down, or yer gonna go viral. ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/480 "2018-08-03T20:13:02Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I see it didn’t penetrate. In this instance, you mean the Obama concentration camp… > Regards, > Shodan But is Obama not half white? Even one drop of evil whitey blood is enough to make someone…um…order child molestation? I’m not sure what the accusation was but I’m damn sure it was right! ---
**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/481 "2018-08-03T21:17:57Z")
Not unlike Grand Dragon Shodan, the President of the United States uses the coded language [of white supremacy to insult people of color](https://nypost.com/2018/08/02/trump-calls-maxine-waters-new-star-of-dems-insults-her-low-iq/). Racist state with racist cops [choke black man to death](https://www.theroot.com/video-louisiana-cops-strangle-black-man-to-death-for-a-1828091116) for asking to see an arrest warrant. 6 year old sexually abused in [Trump concentration camp](https://www.thenation.com/article/six-year-old-girl-sexually-abused-immigrant-detention-center/); the child was forced to sign a statement confirming that she understood it was her responsibility to stay away from her abuser. [Black kids](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/store-posh-california-city-forced-close-black-family-gets-kicked-kids-tried-adult-hats/) try on hats. Store owner calls cops. Honorable Mention: Latino workers confront white boss about his racism. White [boss fires latino workers in a fit of white fragility](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/watch-entire-construction-crew-walks-off-job-racist-boss-fires-latino-coworkers-confronting/). In solidarity, all latino workers leave, shutting the facility down. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/482 "2018-08-03T21:42:56Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > HIV positive man sexually abuses 8 children at[Trump concentration camp](https://www.propublica.org/article/worker-charged-with-sexually-molesting-eight-children-at-immigrant-shelter). White conservatives and will blame the children. > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > “White conservatives and”, “what”, or “who” “will blame the children.”? > [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > Glad you’re more focused on a fucking a typo than kids being sexually abused at the Trump concentration camp. Blessed Be the Fruit, amirite? Blessed Be the Fruit. Not just a typo. I was online when you posted, and before you edited it said, as I recall, “Conservatives and white folks will blame the children”. I’m surprised that you felt the need to change it, given your overall message here. If you claim that all conservatives have this view, why shy away from the generalization to all of the “white folks”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=25)