# Living while black in America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/783 "2018-08-17T00:02:31Z")
[Dude manages to keep composure while cops try to set him up for a crime](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIYFAc-l00&feature=youtu.be) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/784 "2018-08-17T02:02:13Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Dude manages to keep composure while cops try to set him up for a crime](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIYFAc-l00&feature=youtu.be) Calmness in the face of adversity is admirable. Heroic even. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/785 "2018-08-17T15:06:28Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Dude manages to keep composure while cops try to set him up for a crime](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIYFAc-l00&feature=youtu.be) That made my stomach churn with anxiety. First the officer implied the driver had stolen the car (by asking how he drives the car and then asking for the keys). Then he says he smells pot and the passenger might have a gun. No gun or “shake on the floor” was found. I had to shut the video off when the officer, after putting cuffs on the driver, mentions how fast the driver’s heart was pounding. Hell, my heart was pounding and I live 250 miles away. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/786 "2018-08-17T17:48:15Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > That made my stomach churn with anxiety. First the officer implied the driver had stolen the car (by asking how he drives the car and then asking for the keys). Then he says he smells pot and the passenger might have a gun. No gun or “shake on the floor” was found. I had to shut the video off when the officer, after putting cuffs on the driver, mentions how fast the driver’s heart was pounding. Hell, my heart was pounding and I live 250 miles away. Indeed! I couldn’t watch to the end I was getting so angry at the asshole cop. And yes, my heart was pounding too and I live in another country. Damn!!! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/787 "2018-08-17T18:55:27Z")
Good thing the guy didn’t have an open container of alcohol in the car, or the racist cops would have busted his ass. Oh wait…Police did find an open bottle of alcohol which they had the men dump out. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/788 "2018-08-17T18:59:57Z")
Good thing he had a passenger. Godspeed, Covfefe ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/789 "2018-08-18T17:19:06Z")
[A woman (white) called police on a man (black) who was getting into his own car in Milwaukee.](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2018/08/17/woman-called-police-man-who-getting-into-his-own-car-milwaukee/1021846002/) > [@](#): > > Corvontae Davis went to the Third Ward on Tuesday to have lunch with his brother. > > When he was getting into his own car to find change to put into the parking meter, a woman started yelling at him and called police. She thought he was breaking into the car. > > … > > Davis waited for police to arrive. > > “She stood there for a while. When she noticed that the cops arrived, she went off and didn’t interact with the police department. She didn’t interact with me,” Davis said. “She left me out there to explain myself and the situation and what was going on.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/790 "2018-08-18T23:48:40Z")
White woman calls cops on black man rummaging through his own car. > **[Woman Calls Police on Man Trying to Enter His Own Car](https://www.newsweek.com/woman-calls-police-video-black-man-breaking-own-car-milwaukee-reporachel-1078717)** > > Corvontae Davis told Newsweek he hoped the woman who called the police on him was held accountable and would apologize for her actions. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/791 "2018-08-23T23:31:45Z")
White man urinates on a five-year-old black girl, calls her the n-word. > **[White Man Accused of Urinating on 5-Year-Old Black Girl, Calling Her N-Word,...](https://www.theroot.com/white-man-accused-of-urinating-on-5-year-old-black-girl-1828552204)** > > Police took a Michigan man into custody on Wednesday evening after the parents of a five-year-old a girl accused the man of urinating on their daughter. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/792 "2018-08-24T08:36:35Z")
I started driving late nights for Uber a few weeks ago after going way over budget on our family vacation and racking up serious credit card bills. The other night I had a super short one, a half mile ride for a guy who looked like an athletic college kid. This seemed strange, until it occurred to me that he was a young black guy wearing a hoodie and walking would have been through a quiet and mostly white residential neighborhood. Suddenly it made a lot more sense. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/793 "2018-08-24T11:53:53Z")
Folks, the counts have been tallied, and now it’s time to congratulate our top three posters in the “Living While Black in America” thread. Ooh, I’ve got chills. Envelope, please! Congratulations go to… **iiandyiiii** , **octopus** and **SlackerInc**! Thanks to all of you for having the courage to share your unique insight and experiences with us. And, to those of you who didn’t win - never give up. We hope to see you again next year! _\_ ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/794 "2018-08-24T12:52:05Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Good thing the guy didn’t have an open container of alcohol in the car, or the racist cops would have busted his ass. > > Oh wait…Police did find an open bottle of alcohol which they had the men dump out. > > Regards, > Shodan > [@](#): > > “Sorry, this still upsets me. Is this a game you play with young people?” Clinton said. “I don’t have beef with the Des Moines Police Department … but I can’t encourage (my children) to trust the police department if this is the only way they’re going to deal with them 95 percent of the time.” > **[DSM police 'disappointed' in group alleging racial profiling](https://www.kcci.com/article/raw-video-group-claims-traffic-stop-shows-racial-profiling/22740519)** > > Des Moines police are on defense after a metro group calls out an officer for alleged racial profiling. …do you think that this sort of policing builds trust between the community and the police, or do you think it does the opposite? Is Laural Clinton right or wrong to not encourage her children to trust the police department in the future? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/795 "2018-08-24T13:15:26Z")
Do you think these sorts of accusations build trust between the community and the police, or do you think they do the opposite? Is Laural Clinton right that this is the only way they deal with her children 95% of the time? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/796 "2018-08-24T13:26:28Z")
…I suspect I’m not going to get an answer to my question. > [@Shodan](#): > > Do you think these sorts of accusations build trust between the community and the police, or do you think they do the opposite? My suspicion was correct. What is wrong with the accusation? Is it the job of the community to earn the trust of the police? > [@](#): > > Is Laural Clinton right that this is the only way they deal with her children 95% of the time? > > Regards, > Shodan I think Laural Clinton is in a much better position to answer that question than me. I suggest you address it to her. Now are you going to attempt to answer my question this time around? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/797 "2018-08-24T13:27:06Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Do you think these sorts of accusations build trust between the community and the police, or do you think they do the opposite? Is Laural Clinton right that this is the only way they deal with her children 95% of the time? > > Regards, > Shodan My daughter was born in 1990, her brother three years later. I initially taught them, “the policeman is your friend”. Things changed. By the time my kids were in school, _with the encouragement of a cop-friend_, I was teaching them to _not_ trust the police, to ask for their parents or lawyer. Just an observation. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/798 "2018-08-24T14:14:06Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I started driving late nights for Uber a few weeks ago after going way over budget on our family vacation and racking up serious credit card bills. The other night I had a super short one, a half mile ride for a guy who looked like an athletic college kid. This seemed strange, until it occurred to me that he was a young black guy wearing a hoodie and walking would have been through a quiet and mostly white residential neighborhood. Suddenly it made a lot more sense. ☹ It took me a couple of readings to get your point. Yeah, safer for that dude to take an Uber for a short ride than to walk through a mostly white residential neighborhood at night and take the chance that some asshole will call the cops on him. ☹ indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Epic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@Epic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/799 "2018-08-24T15:09:11Z")
its hard being black, no doubt. But in every society, its easiest to a member of the racial majority. There seems to be this ethos that bitching/moaning about muh white pwivlij, calling everything racist, guilting everyone, etc. is gonna change basic human nature. Society and government has done all that is possible within the bounds of our constitution to rectify slavery/Jim Crow. Now its up to the African American community themselves to fix their culture. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/800 "2018-08-24T15:15:45Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > its hard being black, no doubt. But in every society, its easiest to a member of the racial majority. There seems to be this ethos that bitching/moaning about muh white pwivlij, calling everything racist, guilting everyone, etc. is gonna change basic human nature. > > Society and government has done all that is possible within the bounds of our constitution to rectify slavery/Jim Crow. Now its up to the African American community themselves to fix their culture. Signed, [_Most assuredly_] White Rando Who Joined Like, 15 Minutes Ago ---
**Author:** ![Epic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@Epic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/801 "2018-08-24T15:20:44Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Signed, > [_Most assuredly_] White Rando Who Joined Like, 15 Minutes Ago how do you know my race? Can you refute that in all societies in the world, human nature has dictated that being a member of the majority is socially easier than not? And that’s why we’ll never have equality of outcome for the races. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/802 "2018-08-24T15:31:46Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > how do you know my race? You’re so white I have to wear shades to read your post. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=41)