# Living while black in America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/81 "2018-07-10T18:02:49Z")

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Man, I can’t _wait_ until Farns cites something from 1942 or 1917! So topical!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/82 "2018-07-10T18:03:56Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Ignore the fucking fucker please.

Too late, but I’ll try to do better.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/83 "2018-07-10T18:10:10Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> This millennial never saw Dr. Strangelove.

Great movie, one of my favorites. You should see it sometime.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/84 "2018-07-10T18:13:10Z")

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Oddly, by idiotically trying to make his stupid point, Farns is proving the OP’s point.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/85 "2018-07-10T18:16:00Z")

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Oops, my apologies. I’ll refrain from continuing.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/86 "2018-07-10T18:18:01Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Oddly, by idiotically trying to make his stupid point, Farns is proving the OP’s point.

Considering the OP wanted to call this thread “Whites are Evil” or something, I am slightly amused by this hot take.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/87 "2018-07-10T18:28:51Z")

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White couple called the police on a kid for getting part of their lawn while mowing the neighbors also called the police on July 4th because the kid and his friends wet their house while playing with a slip and slide.

> **[White Couple Who Called Police on 12-Year-Old Mowing Lawn Called Them Again...](https://www.theroot.com/white-couple-who-called-police-on-12-year-old-mowing-la-1827445869)**
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> Some people just need their ass whupped to be fined for wasting precious taxpayer money on mundane foolishness.

Police called on family at a Subway in Georgia because they were eating sandwiches and using the bathroom.

> **[Family says Subway employee called police on them because of race](https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/family-says-subway-employee-called-police-on-them-because-of-race/782480259/)**
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> The Dobsons said they did nothing wrong, and they want to know what triggered the call.

California prosecutor called Maxine Waters a “loud-mouthed c#nt in the ghetto:”

> **[Top San Bernardino County gang prosecutor under fire for offensive social...](https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/06/top-san-bernardino-county-gang-prosecutor-under-fire-for-offensive-social-media-posts/)**
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> Michael Selyem’s rants were directed at U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, former first lady Michelle Obama, immigrants, liberal critics of President Donald Trump and the victim of a police shooting. A…

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/88 "2018-07-10T18:35:56Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Ignoring the last two posts and going back to the OP,
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> I think one of the most shocking is the student who fell asleep while studying in the common area of her dorm and one of her dorm-mates called the police.

Really? Because of problems with the homeless population around my university, that’s often what we advise students to do (rather than directly confront the person) if there’s someone they don’t recognize in the dorm common areas at odd times, especially someone camped out sleeping in a common area.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/89 "2018-07-10T18:40:36Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Great movie, one of my favorites. You should see it sometime.

_“You can’t fight in here! This is the War Room!”_

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/90 "2018-07-10T18:40:49Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Considering the OP wanted to call this thread “Whites are Evil” or something, I am slightly amused by this hot take.

Not quite, but it many, many cases, it works just as well. Possibly yours.

> [@Request permission to make thread in BBQ pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/request-permission-to-make-thread-in-bbq-pit/817464/1):
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> Hi,
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> It seems a lot of folks here don’t believe that racism and prejudice exists against people of people of color. Everyday, minorities are being treated like animals[(last week, a 89 grandmother was denied entry to a gas station and forced to relieve herself outside as if she were a dog](https://www.bet.com/news/national/2018/07/03/89-year-old-grandmother-denied-access-to-gas-station-bathroom-an.html)). Instead of talking about these injustices, we’re spending page after page talking about why some evil chick got chased out of a restaurant. White folks must believe that political affiliation is a protected class.
> 
> **Here’s my question** : Can I make a thread entitled “White folks are crazy” or “White folks hate us all” or “Here white folks go again with their oppression” something catchy like that. I’m still thinking on the title. The purpose of the thread is to highlight the daily injustices African-Americans and Hispanics experience at the hands of white folks. It. Happens. Everyday. If you prefer I don’t, that’s fine. Out of respect, I just wanted to ask before hand. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/91 "2018-07-10T18:43:52Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Really? Because of problems with the homeless population around my university, that’s often what we advise students to do (rather than directly confront the person) if there’s someone they don’t recognize in the dorm common areas at odd times, especially someone camped out sleeping in a common area.

Yes but I believe that it was established that the girl who fell asleep was indeed a student.

> **[A black Yale student fell asleep in her dorm’s common room. A white student...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/05/10/a-black-yale-student-fell-asleep-in-her-dorms-common-room-a-white-student-called-police/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5f1ff7064750)**
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> "I deserve to be here. I pay tuition like everybody else,” Lolade Siyonbola told officers.

The person who called the police was outed as someone who had done this before:

> **[This allegedly wasn’t the first time this white Yale student called the cops...](https://fox2now.com/news/this-allegedly-wasnt-the-first-time-this-white-yale-student-called-the-cops-on-a-person-of-color/)**
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> A second black Yale University student has alleged that the same white student whom officers admonished this week for reporting a black student asleep in a dorm common room called police months ago…

> **['I Love Hate Speech': Sarah Braasch, the white woman who called police on...](https://thegrio.com/2018/05/10/sarah-braasch-yale-grad-student/)**
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> Here are five things to know about Sarah Braasch, the woman who called the police on a fellow Yale graduate student for taking a nap in a common room. 

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/92 "2018-07-10T19:05:18Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Yes but I believe that it was established that the girl who fell asleep was indeed a student.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/05/10/a-black-yale-student-fell-asleep-in-her-dorms-common-room-a-white-student-called-police/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.5f1ff7064750](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/05/10/a-black-yale-student-fell-asleep-in-her-dorms-common-room-a-white-student-called-police/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5f1ff7064750)
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> The person who called the police was outed as someone who had done this before:
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> [https://fox2now.com/2018/05/11/this-allegedly-wasnt-the-first-time-this-white-yale-student-called-the-cops-on-a-person-of-color/](https://fox2now.com/2018/05/11/this-allegedly-wasnt-the-first-time-this-white-yale-student-called-the-cops-on-a-person-of-color/)
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> ['I Love Hate Speech': Sarah Braasch, the white woman who called police on Black Yale grad student for napping in dorm, defends slavery and supports burqa ban in writings - TheGrio](https://thegrio.com/2018/05/10/sarah-braasch-yale-grad-student/)

How does the article support the claim that the caller was “white”?

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/93 "2018-07-10T19:12:06Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Yes but I believe that it was established that the girl who fell asleep was indeed a student.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/05/10/a-black-yale-student-fell-asleep-in-her-dorms-common-room-a-white-student-called-police/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.5f1ff7064750](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/05/10/a-black-yale-student-fell-asleep-in-her-dorms-common-room-a-white-student-called-police/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5f1ff7064750)
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> The person who called the police was outed as someone who had done this before:
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> [This allegedly wasn’t the first time this white Yale student called the cops on a person of color | FOX 2](https://fox2now.com/2018/05/11/this-allegedly-wasnt-the-first-time-this-white-yale-student-called-the-cops-on-a-person-of-color/)
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> ['I Love Hate Speech': Sarah Braasch, the white woman who called police on Black Yale grad student for napping in dorm, defends slavery and supports burqa ban in writings - TheGrio](https://thegrio.com/2018/05/10/sarah-braasch-yale-grad-student/)

A student who should have gone to her dorm room to take a nap rather than, monopolizing what is supposed to be a shared space by camping out in the dorm common area. Seriously, calling the campus police is what you want someone to do under potentially suspicious circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/94 "2018-07-10T19:15:15Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> A student who should have gone to her dorm room to take a nap rather than, monopolizing what is supposed to be a shared space by camping out in the dorm common area. Seriously, calling the campus police is what you want someone to do under potentially suspicious circumstances.

Are you serious with this? You can’t possibly be serious.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/95 "2018-07-10T19:15:30Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> A student who should have gone to her dorm room to take a nap rather than, monopolizing what is supposed to be a shared space by camping out in the dorm common area.

In what way did she monopolize the shared space?

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/96 "2018-07-10T19:19:41Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> A student who should have gone to her dorm room to take a nap rather than, monopolizing what is supposed to be a shared space by camping out in the dorm common area. Seriously, calling the campus police is what you want someone to do under potentially suspicious circumstances.

You’re assuming that she meant to fall asleep rather than nodding off while studying, and shared means you don’t always get say over how the space is used. Just like sharing we learned in kindergarten, it means you don’t always get what you want when you want it. Also, are you really claiming that its difficult to differentiate between homeless people and college students? That seems to be a stretch to me in order to justify calling the cops on someone that doesn’t look like you doing something that you don’t approve of. Not coming across well imo.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/97 "2018-07-10T19:20:16Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> A student who should have gone to her dorm room to take a nap rather than, monopolizing what is supposed to be a shared space by camping out in the dorm common area. Seriously, calling the campus police is what you want someone to do under potentially suspicious circumstances.

What would you expect the campus police to do? Tell her to go to her room? Arrest her for sleeping while being black?

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/98 "2018-07-10T19:23:39Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> In what way did she monopolize the shared space?

Usually when someone is sleeping, it implies they are directing others not to make a lot of noise around them. The common rooms in dorms are basically designed for socializing, working on group projects, team planning sessions, etc. They are designated places where people can get rather loud. This is ideally to facilitate the dorm bedrooms being quieter places where people can sleep or study in a calmer atmosphere.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/99 "2018-07-10T19:25:11Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Usually when someone is sleeping, it implies they are directing others not to make a lot of noise around them

Not in a common room, it doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/100 "2018-07-10T19:27:38Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Usually when someone is sleeping, it implies they are directing others not to make a lot of noise around them.

You are assuming an awful lot of her motivations. Have you never nodded off unintentionally? I’m sure if others came in and started hanging out she might just have woken up like whoa guess I fell asleep and everyone could have carried on their day.

Using police time for this when there are serious things on campus like sexual assault happening all too frequently is pretty irresponsible and smacks of entitlement.

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