# Living while black in America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1143 "2018-09-19T06:13:23Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> well, yes, shitty things happen to black people because they are black, most decent people would agree to that, and …
> 
> And what? Is this just for venting, listing horrible news items, spewing a little anger and hate, and then getting to work? That’s fine with me. Vent.
> 
> \*\*Is this for people to listen, to share each others experiences, to find common ground to build on? \*\*No. That is not the way this has worked out.
> 
> Do we want a real dialog on race? On how people of color experience America and how white Americans view people of color and why? That sounds nice in theory but a disaster in practice.
> 
> I have a real question, though. What should white people do? This is not their issue to own and control, in my opinion. They might take responsibility for the cause, but cannot for the solution.
> 
> What is the next step?

Most of these things I agree with.

I was really hoping for the bolded one.

**Banquet Bear** what did you think this would be? What did you hope for?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1144 "2018-09-19T06:23:33Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I really wish it fucking was.
> 
> Because the members of the board are really reluctant to address the issue of shitty things that happen to black people anywhere else.
> 
> The very least you could do is let the **one thread** devoted to this issue remain on this issue. Because if you hadn’t noticed: society has very quickly moved on. Shitty things are still happening to black people at the very same rate as they were when this thread was at its peak: but people have stopped caring. Apparently you don’t fucking care anymore. If you cared you would stop with this and pit Huey properly in his own pit thread.

Dude, shut the fuck up with your holier-than-thou screeching. Don’t you tire of it? Fuck. Huey Freeman is NOT the hill you want to plant your flag on. He is bunk. He is a troll. It is fucking astounding to me that you can’t even bring yourself to acknowledge that Huey even has been actively COMPLICIT in this train veering so badly off-track. Why do you infantalize him so?

Because he also happens to be black, we need to simply be absorbing and ignoring or just accepting the impact of every-single-weak-sauce redirection tactic, his nasty insults, his baldy racist words, his blatant distortion and fabrication of facts, his intentionally-unintentional irony and hypocrisy, and his strategy of whipping the thread participants up in to a tizzy using all these “tools” so he can drop his actual, legitimate informative articles onto a board already primed to be non-responsive to the articles, being as how they are of the very subject Huey injected into the board totally disingenuously,.

Troll is a troll. And just go away **BB**. Please? You are the only person who has irritated me enough that ive actually contemplated using that sorry “Ignore” function on. You are nothing more than a shrill, grating unpleasant pest who is never anything but ornery and fed up and rude to seemingly every fuckng board member you interact with. Huey Freeman at least is entertaining. He has made my day of bed rest easier to tolerate haha.

One final thing. I am absolutely in no way reticent to talk about the difficult and urgent issues facing black people in the U.S. That is part of my reason for croticizing Huey to the extent that I jave; it’s been a **huge** let-down to find out that that conversation was not to be had here. And i also absolutely know that I am not alone in holding these sentiments. That’s not to say. I will have this conversation with a fellow **adult** , that is the only stipulation I have. Well, an adult who is discussing the issues and putting forth ideas and opinions in good faith. You cant have penetrating dialogue without these basic foundations.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1145 "2018-09-19T06:24:18Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …its more than “just venting.”
> 
> Its keeping it in the conciseness of the American people.
> 
> I follow a lot of people on Black Twitter. And the stories are still coming. But the stories have dried up in this thread. Why have they dried up?
> 
> Because people have stopped caring. It no longer has news value. The anger, the outrage, the discrimination all still exists. The outrageous videos are all still being posted online. But the news cycle has moved on. And we’ve moved on as well.
> 
> And if you are comfortable with moving on, and if you can live with moving on, then carry on as you wish.

We’re cross-posting a bit. I’m going to stop for the night after this. This thread is a group effort. It sounds like you are seeing information that belongs in this thread. Why don’t you try adding some of it with your throughs and see what happens?

For myself, I will say that I left the thread when I caught Huey adding accounts of violence against blacks that included a black woman beating up a hispanic man, and other things that were completely irrelevant to the thread. It felt like a scam. Not a real effort to talk about the issues.

I will make a point to bring news to the thread as well.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1146 "2018-09-19T06:24:26Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> What exactly is the problem with taking a good idea and starting fresh anyway?

…whats exactly the problem with continuing the discussion here in this thread?

> [@](#):
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> We have a requirement that only black Americans can write it?

Nope.

> [@](#):
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> A person of color won’t do?

Speaking on behalf of myself only, as a person of colour, I wouldn’t start it when this thread already exists.

> [@](#):
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> Well, we have some. I’m sure one would be willing if asked nicely.

:: waves ::

Hello! I’m right here in front of you!

But its okay, I’m used to being ignored. For fucks sakes.

> [@](#):
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> If you don’t want to start fresh, then this is what you are going to get in an un-moderated omnibus thread.

It isn’t about me.

If you want to start a new thread go for it: I’m not fucking stopping you.

> [@](#):
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> 23 pages in, people wander around bitching about how their autistic children aren’t in-bred and debate relative disorder rates by “racial” populations. Why? Because that’s what happens with omnibus threads. If **Huey** doesn’t have time to play hall monitor, which he seems to be stating, then perhaps someone else can.

You have agency.

Just stop the hijack. Pit Huey. Post a link here and go abuse him over there.

Simple. Its all in your hands really.

Because I don’t have a fucking clue what you guys are talking about here. I really don’t. I struggle to parse Huey’s posts when he’s speaking on topic. When its as off-topic as it is right now I don’t have the foggiest what he is saying, let alone what the replies are all about.

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> ETA: I understand this is important to you. I supported you on the Trevor Noah thread if you go back and look. Stop setting up an us and them on this thread and help figure out how we can fix this. Oddly enough we do want to discuss this.

What part of “take the hijack somewhere else” doesn’t make any sense to you?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1147 "2018-09-19T06:27:13Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …that can be easily rectified by starting a pit-thread dedicated to Huey and taking that nonsense to that thread.

So if Huey raises a theory in this thread, we’re now not allowed to rip into that theory in this thread?

Huey can make sweeping statements about whites being prone to autism through inbreeding but if we want to call him out on that shit we have to go to a different thread because responding to the OP’s points is somehow us derailing his thread?

Nah.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1148 "2018-09-19T06:31:28Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Dude, shut the fuck up with your holier-than-thou screeching. Don’t you tire of it? Fuck. Huey Freeman is NOT the hill you want to plant your flag on. He is bunk. He is a troll. It is fucking astounding to me that you can’t even bring yourself to acknowledge that Huey even has been actively COMPLICIT in this train veering so badly off-track. Why do you infantalize him so?
> 
> Because he also happens to be black, we need to simply be absorbing and ignoring or just accepting the impact of every-single-weak-sauce redirection tactic, his nasty insults, his baldy racist words, his blatant distortion and fabrication of facts, his intentionally-unintentional irony and hypocrisy, and his strategy of whipping the thread participants up in to a tizzy using all these “tools” so he can drop his actual, legitimate informative articles onto a board already primed to be non-responsive to the articles, being as how they are of the very subject Huey injected into the board totally disingenuously,.
> 
> Troll is a troll. And just go away **BB**. Please? You are the only person who has irritated me enough that ive actually contemplated using that sorry “Ignore” function on. You are nothing more than a shrill, grating unpleasant pest who is never anything but ornery and fed up and rude to seemingly every fuckng board member you interact with. Huey Freeman at least is entertaining. He has made my day of bed rest easier to tolerate haha.
> 
> One final thing. I am absolutely in no way reticent to talk about the difficult and urgent issues facing black people in the U.S. That is part of my reason for croticizing Huey to the extent that I jave; it’s been a **huge** let-down to find out that that conversation was not to be had here. And i also absolutely know that I am not alone in holding these sentiments. That’s not to say. I will have this conversation with a fellow **adult** , that is the only stipulation I have. Well, an adult who is discussing the issues and putting forth ideas and opinions in good faith. You cant have penetrating dialogue without these basic foundations.

…not going anywhere sorry. But I’m glad you could get that all off your chest. Hope you sleep well.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1149 "2018-09-19T06:33:14Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> So if Huey raises a theory in this thread, we’re now not allowed to rip into that theory in this thread?

…you can do whatever the fuck you like. I’m not the fucking boss. You don’t need my permission to carry on as you are carrying on.

> [@](#):
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> Huey can make sweeping statements about whites being prone to autism through inbreeding but if we want to call him out on that shit we have to go to a different thread because responding to the OP’s points is somehow us derailing his thread?

Yes you could take it to another thread!

> [@](#):
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> Nah.

Well okay then.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1150 "2018-09-19T06:37:03Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> I’m used to being ignored. For fucks sakes.

This is rich. D’ja ever wonder why this might be? Ever critically examine the possibilities? Spend some time inrospecting? Maybe it’s **you**. Learn how to talk to people. Please.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1151 "2018-09-19T06:43:14Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> This is rich. D’ja ever wonder why this might be? Ever critically examine the possibilities? Spend some time inrospecting? Maybe it’s **you**. Learn how to talk to people. Please.

…context matters.

Sunny Daze said “Well, we have some [people of colour]” here on these boards while literally talking to a person of colour.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1152 "2018-09-19T06:52:14Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …you can do whatever the fuck you like. I’m not the fucking boss. You don’t need my permission to carry on as you are carrying on…
> 
> …Yes you could take it to another thread!

You’re the one junior modding with your request that people do not respond to the points the OP raises in his thread. I’m asking you to justify that, as to me it’s fucking batshit crazy. You’re saying that Huey can throw out any claim he likes in a post he started, but if we want to respond to his shit you say we “don’t fucking care anymore. If you cared you would stop with this and pit Huey properly in his own pit thread.”

Here’s a revelation for you. This is Huey’s pit thread. He’s pissing all over his own work, so fuck knows why you think somehow everyone else is responsible for responding to his points in his thread.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1153 "2018-09-19T07:14:06Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> You’re the one junior modding with your request that people do not respond to the points the OP raises in his thread.

…if you think I’m junior modding then use the fucking report button.

I’m not junior modding. I’m ranting. We are in the fucking pit. We rant here.

> [@](#):
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> I’m asking you to justify that, as to me it’s fucking batshit crazy. You’re saying that Huey can throw out any claim he likes in a post he started, but if we want to respond to his shit you say we "don’t fucking care anymore. If you cared you would stop with this and pit Huey properly in his own pit thread. "

Justify?

Its how other threads work all the time. I’ll concede not every thread. But people self-police. It isn’t fucking batshit crazy to suggest the same thing be done here.

> [@](#):
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> Here’s a revelation for you. This is Huey’s pit thread.

Here’s a fucking revelation for you.

I know who started the pit thread.

> [@](#):
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> He’s pissing all over his own work, so fuck knows why you think somehow everyone else is responsible for responding to his points in his thread.

I asked what this thread was all about any more.

The answer was “Autism, deafness, Wicca, and abuse of white people.”

I mean what the fuck? Why can’t we get back to discussing living while black in America?

Raheem Edward.

Arrested for attempted murder of a police officer. Released when they found no solid evidence he even had a gun, let alone fire one.

> **[A Black Man Was Accused of Shooting at a Cop. Now the District Attorney Is...](https://www.theroot.com/a-black-man-was-accused-of-shooting-at-a-cop-now-the-d-1828824212)**
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> A Louisana man who was facing charges of attempted murder after being accused of firing a weapon at a Baton Rouge, La., police officer will no longer be prosecuted on those charges after East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore III...

Reg Andrade:

“An unidentified caller rang the university’s anonymous tip line at 7:45 a.m., saying that a “very agitated” African-American man had walked into the Whitmore Administration Building with a “large duffel bag … hanging off a strap, very heavy hanging on the ground,” according to a transcript of the call released by the university. Andrade’s physical appearance and clothing matched the description the caller provided.”

> **[Daily Hampshire Gazette](https://www.gazettenet.com/)**
>
> The Daily Hampshire Gazette is the essential daily news source for the Pioneer Valley from Northampton, MA, in Franklin County.

In another story 9 black protestors have spent more time in jail for protesting Botham Jean’s death than Amber Guyger has for shooting him.

This is what the thread is supposed to be about. Huey has barely posted in this thread the last few pages. To blame him for this thread going off the rails misses the fact that everyone involved with the hijack are just as complicit as he is.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1154 "2018-09-19T07:23:33Z")

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[Former St. Bernard Parish jail guard pleads guilty in 2014 inmate death; three others face trial.](https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/courts/article_3fa8299e-bb91-11e8-87d8-77524c562733.html)

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> Williams also says that Vaccarella, his partner on the overnight shift, mocked Henry on multiple occasions, with Williams sometimes joining in the ridicule. At one point, Henry fell to the floor, and Vaccarella made light of it as she and Williams watched a video of the incident, according to Williams.

[Black people in Louisiana nearly 3 times more likely to be arrested for pot possession: report](https://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2018/09/racial_profiling_louisiana_sou.html)

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> Black people in Louisiana are nearly three times as likely as whites to be arrested on a charge of marijuana possession, according to a report from the Southern Poverty Law Center on racial profiling.
> 
> The report states black people in the state are 2.9 times more likely to be arrested for pot possession, even though a 2016 National Survey on Drug Use and Health found black and white people use marijuana “at similar rates.”

[TEXAS DA WHO SENT WOMAN TO PRISON FOR FIVE YEARS FOR VOTING MADE HER OWN ELECTION MISTAKE  
Tarrant County District Attorney Sharen Wilson prosecuted Crystal Mason for casting an illegal ballot. But Wilson escaped charges for a possible election violation of her own.](https://theappeal.org/texas-da-who-sent-woman-to-prison-for-five-years-for-voting-made-her-own-election-mistake/)

[Trial begins for former Mesquite cop who shot unarmed man he mistook for burglar](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2018/09/18/trial-begins-former-mesquite-cop-shot-unarmed-man-mistook-burglar)

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> Lyndo Jones was pleading, “No, no, don’t shoot,” right before a Mesquite police officer who mistook him for a burglar shot him twice in the back, body camera footage played Tuesday during the former cop’s trial showed.
> 
> “If you get up, I will shoot you again,” Derick Wiley yells at Jones after the shooting, while the wounded man lies bleeding on the ground.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1155 "2018-09-19T07:27:11Z")

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Awwwwwww, **Banquet Bear** got triggered. Poor dearie, there there. \<3 How traumatic it must be when the Pit is misused like that.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1156 "2018-09-19T07:30:36Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> Awwwwwww, **Banquet Bear** got triggered. Poor dearie, there there. \<3 How traumatic it must be when the Pit is misused like that.

[Fulton inmate dies after being shocked with Taser, pepper-sprayed.](https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/fulton-county-inmate-dies-after-being-tased-pepper-sprayed-gbi-investigating/oZmx9sMHyMgNy2wPE2YJPN/)

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> May was decontaminated due to the use of pepper spray,” Miles said. “He later became unresponsive.”
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> Jail and medical staff began conducting CPR and Grady EMS and the Atlanta fire department arrived to assist, but May died at the scene.
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> The GBI is investigating the death.  
> May was arrested for criminal trespass and a warrant from another county, Miles said.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1157 "2018-09-19T07:40:26Z")

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Um, are you going to _say_ anything, a single solitary word about any of these links you’ve been dumping? Not too conducive to reigniting a convo.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1158 "2018-09-19T07:43:12Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> Huey has barely posted in this thread the last few pages. To blame him for this thread going off the rails misses the fact that everyone involved with the hijack are just as complicit as he is.

Huey has posted 4 times in this thread in the last 24 hours, including such gems as “white folks, on average, have a paucity of cognitive empathy”, “roughly half of the people who live in Arab countries are inbred”, “white men wouldn’t touch a black woman with a ten foot pole”, “the rates of autism in blacks (1 in 62) and hispanics (1 in 80) was lower than whites (1 in 36)”, “I prefer to believe that white folks are slightly autistic”

But you reckon that people cannot reply to Huey’s points, in Huey’s thread, because we’re then hijacking it.

And then when someone suggests you start a thread where you can actually raise the actual topic of the many actual instances of racism black people experience in Africa to avoid Huey derailing discussion of the topic, you accuse him of being “America in a nutshell” and “white people writing the OP.”

You don’t get to play it both ways. This is Huey’s thread, and he gets to raise the topics he thinks it’s about, and we get to reply. You don’t like that, then report the posts you think are out of order, or start your own thread.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1159 "2018-09-19T07:49:53Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Um, are you going to _say_ anything, a single solitary word about any of these links you’ve been dumping? Not too conducive to an earnest attempt to reignite a convo.

…I suggest you go back and read the OP, because dumping links here was exactly how this thread started. If you have want to discuss any of the links I’ve posted feel free to contribute. Or share your own links. That would be even better.

[Portland State University cops won’t be charged in killing of Navy vet.](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/09/grand_jury_clears_psu_officers.html)

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> Officers Shawn McKenzie and James Dewey will not face criminal charges in the death of Jason Washington, 45, the Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office said in a news release.
> 
> Campus police killed Washington, a U.S. postal worker and Navy veteran, while he tried to break up a fight near the Cheerful Tortoise just before closing time on June 29.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1160 "2018-09-19T07:51:54Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Huey has posted 4 times in this thread in the last 24 hours, including such gems as “white folks, on average, have a paucity of cognitive empathy”, “roughly half of the people who live in Arab countries are inbred”, “white men wouldn’t touch a black woman with a ten foot pole”, “the rates of autism in blacks (1 in 62) and hispanics (1 in 80) was lower than whites (1 in 36)”, “I prefer to believe that white folks are slightly autistic”
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> But you reckon that people cannot reply to Huey’s points, in Huey’s thread, because we’re then hijacking it.
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> And then when someone suggests you start a thread where you can actually raise the actual topic of the many actual instances of racism black people experience in Africa to avoid Huey derailing discussion of the topic, you accuse him of being “America in a nutshell” and “white people writing the OP.”
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> You don’t get to play it both ways. This is Huey’s thread, and he gets to raise the topics he thinks it’s about, and we get to reply. You don’t like that, then report the posts you think are out of order, or start your own thread.

[Why Chicago Is Closely Watching the Trial of the Officer Who Shot Laquan McDonald.](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/us/laquan-mcdonald-shooting-jason-van-dyke-trial.html)

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> CHICAGO — Almost four years ago, a white Chicago police officer fatally shot a black teenager named Laquan McDonald on a busy roadway. His death roiled this city, leading to upheaval in the police department, demonstrators in the streets and murder charges against the officer, Jason Van Dyke.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1161 "2018-09-19T08:01:27Z")

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Fuck this. Shit is a waste of time. Faces change but the song remains the same. Whether it be the more disingenuous but amusing Huey Freeman or the nails-on-a-chalkboard schreeching, scolding lecturing Banquet Bear, nobody is straight-up in their purported desire to have a meaningful discussion. There is plenty of other interesting subjects being explored on this board, ✌

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1162 "2018-09-19T08:43:39Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> nails-on-a-chalkboard schreeching, scolding lecturing Banquet Bear,

Aah, “schreeching” [sic] and “scolding”, is it ? You sure you’re not secretly **[octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21208203&postcount=949)** :dubious:?

Or more seriously - this is the Pit, tone policing is a dumb idea here. Just ask **octopus**.

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> nobody is straight-up in their purported desire to have a meaningful discussion.

GD is that way -\> no-one’s stopping you having a meaningful discussion. This didn’t start out as one.

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