# Living while black in America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1283 "2018-12-31T19:56:43Z")
> [@andros](#): > > … and in so stating communicated clearly that slaves were not 100% people. > > Slaves who were Black. Only indirectly. They weren’t deciding how much of a real person a black person was and landed on 3/5ths. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1284 "2019-01-01T03:02:08Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Thanks for pointing this out, Monty. For a moment, I had mistaken the Constitution for a Julia Child recipe. :rolleyes: If you’re looking for people recipes, I think Jonathan Swift is the expert there. Although Irish cooking was his specialty. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1285 "2019-01-06T22:42:19Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > White man does a drive by on 7 year old black girl, killing her. > > ['We will find you': Deputies looking for man who shot, killed 7-year-old in NE Harris Co | khou.com](https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/we-will-find-you-deputies-looking-for-man-who-shot-killed-7-year-old-in-ne-harris-co/285-625412626) Not a white guy. [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/05/us/texas-jazmine-barnes-shooting-investigation/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/05/us/texas-jazmine-barnes-shooting-investigation/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1286 "2019-01-07T00:12:54Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Not a white guy. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/05/us/texas-jazmine-barnes-shooting-investigation/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/05/us/texas-jazmine-barnes-shooting-investigation/index.html) They arrested the driver, not the shooter. > **[One of two alleged Jazmine Brown shooters denies any involvement. Here's...](https://amp.businessinsider.com/jazmine-barnes-eric-black-jr-murder-arrest-2019-1)** > > Authorities have charged Eric Black Jr. and Larry D. Woodruffe for the murder of seven-year-old Jazmine Brown, who was killed in a drive-by shooting. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1287 "2019-01-07T04:40:27Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > They arrested the driver, not the shooter. > > [https://amp.businessinsider.com/jazmine-barnes-eric-black-jr-murder-arrest-2019-1](https://amp.businessinsider.com/jazmine-barnes-eric-black-jr-murder-arrest-2019-1) Well then maybe the racism isn’t as bad as we thought if a black man and a white man can come together to murder children, the possibilities are endless. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1288 "2019-01-07T04:55:57Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > They arrested the driver, not the shooter. > > [https://amp.businessinsider.com/jazmine-barnes-eric-black-jr-murder-arrest-2019-1](https://amp.businessinsider.com/jazmine-barnes-eric-black-jr-murder-arrest-2019-1) Either way, it illustrates the folly of assuming that when a black person is murdered in the US that the motivation is racial hatred. Even if the shooter turns out to be white, it’s really unlikely that the driver was recruited to be the driver in a racially motivated drive-by. It’s looking like the cause of this killing is something a lot more banal. ---
**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1289 "2019-01-07T07:04:51Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Either way, it illustrates the folly of assuming that when a black person is murdered in the US that the motivation is racial hatred. Even if the shooter turns out to be white, it’s really unlikely that the driver was recruited to be the driver in a racially motivated drive-by. It’s looking like the cause of this killing is something a lot more banal. I agree. Your logic sounds about white. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1290 "2019-01-07T10:48:14Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > I agree. Your logic sounds about white. That’s mighty white of you to admit Huey. ---
**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1291 "2019-01-07T12:37:45Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > I agree. Your logic sounds about white. Dude just admit you fucked up or admit you’re a race baiting troll who doesn’t care he fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1292 "2019-01-07T13:16:13Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > They arrested the driver, not the shooter. > > [https://amp.businessinsider.com/jazmine-barnes-eric-black-jr-murder-arrest-2019-1](https://amp.businessinsider.com/jazmine-barnes-eric-black-jr-murder-arrest-2019-1) The lawyer for the Barnes family thinks he knows [who the shooter is](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/06/family-felt-black-childs-killing-was-hate-crime-an-arrest-gave-police-new-direction/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b9bc4a661c14), although that person has not been charged yet. The lawyer also thinks he knows the shooter’s race. I leave it as an exercise to the reader to guess what that race is. A little girl was shot, apparently by people who are both dangerous, and too stupid to figure out who they are shooting. That’s enough of a tragedy on its own, even without witness misidentification. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1293 "2019-01-07T15:30:30Z")
> [@Elmore](#): > > Dude just admit you fucked up or admit you’re a race baiting troll who doesn’t care he fucked up. I think they just did. ---
**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1294 "2019-01-07T18:03:37Z")
> [@Elmore](#): > > Dude just admit you fucked up or admit you’re a race baiting troll who doesn’t care he fucked up. Why are white folks so autistic? No, seriously. Why is it that context, sarcasm, and empathy, and humor are completely lost on you motherfuckers? You see, for people of color, when a person claims to be victimized, we usually give them the benefit of the doubt. We aren’t like white people who treat each other and themselves like animals. Not to veer too off topic but the smearing of Dr. Ford was very white and very autistic; here, Dr. Ford - the _only_ white person to tell the truth in 2018 - was smeared as a liar by her white compatriots. So, we’re left with the inescapable conclusion that autism speaks (but apparently doesn’t listen to words, understand emotion, or gauge the perspective of others very well). Let’s give you an autism test. Read carefully, please. 1. The victims and witnesses of the shooting claim the shooter was white 2. The police put out a sketch of a the shooter as white 3. News organizations all over the country report that the shooter is white 4. SDMB poster Huey links to one of news articles 5. The police update the case to show that the driver is (not the shooter) is black 6. This is taken as proof that Huey - not the news, not the police, not the victim - “fucked up” and should admit wrong. Can you figure out which doesn’t belong? I thought so. Go play with a puzzle. [Begone, thot](http://begone-thot.urbanup.com/12984915#). > [@Shodan](#): > > The lawyer for the Barnes family thinks he knows [who the shooter is](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/06/family-felt-black-childs-killing-was-hate-crime-an-arrest-gave-police-new-direction/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b9bc4a661c14), although that person has not been charged yet. The lawyer also thinks he knows the shooter’s race. I leave it as an exercise to the reader to guess what that race is. > > A little girl was shot, apparently by people who are both dangerous, and too stupid to figure out who they are shooting. That’s enough of a tragedy on its own, even without witness misidentification. > > Regards, > Shodan Look at Grand Dragon Shodan. This thot just can’t help hisself. Instead of spending quality time with your imported daughter, you’ve wasted thousands upon thousands of hours of your life on this website spewing your hate. Can I repeat that? You’ve spent nearly 20 years here and written tens of thousands of posts, thus wasting a significant portion of your life. 20 years is quite an achievement. Will this place be in your obituary? Will you receive a pension from the SDMB? I suggest you focus your remaining time and attention to help rear your imported child (or handbag, as I’m sure she is treated as) that is likely suffering from some form of mental abuse and/or abandonment. Even most white folks recognize that raising children is an important, full-time job; child rearing requires you to put the fucking phone down, turn the computer off, shut the video games down and take an active role in the development of your child’s learning. Instead, you are here furiously typing on your keyboard like you’re Angela Lansbury straight outta _Murder, She Wrote_. And let’s not kid ourselves. Your hands-off approach to parenting is due, in part, to the fact that your daughter is a person of color. While it is clear you and your racist, cross-burning family never cared from the get-go, I implore you to stop posting, pick up the phone and start spending some fucking quality time with your imported daughter. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1295 "2019-01-07T21:19:31Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > Look at Grand Dragon Shodan. This thot just can’t help hisself. Instead of spending quality time with your imported daughter, you’ve wasted thousands upon thousands of hours of your life on this website spewing your hate. Can I repeat that? You’ve spent nearly 20 years here and written tens of thousands of posts, thus wasting a significant portion of your life. 20 years is quite an achievement. Will this place be in your obituary? Will you receive a pension from the SDMB? I suggest you focus your remaining time and attention to help rear your imported child (or handbag, as I’m sure she is treated as) that is likely suffering from some form of mental abuse and/or abandonment. Even most white folks recognize that raising children is an important, full-time job; child rearing requires you to put the fucking phone down, turn the computer off, shut the video games down and take an active role in the development of your child’s learning. Instead, you are here furiously typing on your keyboard like you’re Angela Lansbury straight outta _Murder, She Wrote_. And let’s not kid ourselves. Your hands-off approach to parenting is due, in part, to the fact that your daughter is a person of color. While it is clear you and your racist, cross-burning family never cared from the get-go, I implore you to stop posting, pick up the phone and start spending some fucking quality time with your imported daughter. Thank you. Your concern is touching, in the sense that a pedophile with a Cub Scout (or you with several varieties of farm animal) is “touching”. Be assured that I will waste no time in implementing your suggestions. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1296 "2019-01-07T22:03:12Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > I think they just did. He’s always been like this. He’s playing a parody of a stock character, poorly I might add. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1297 "2019-01-08T00:14:30Z")
The Young Turks deleted 3 videos they had put out about the murder of Barnes. I was listening to them (Cenk w/Ana & some other guy) live a bit ago and their new video based on the new information should appear later tonight. A lot of it was them praising Shaun King, who works for them, for whatever tip he gave the investigators. They don’t learn. They are part of the media that fails to rationally reserve judgment on certain breaking stories and end up shooting themselves in the foot over and over. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1298 "2019-01-08T03:48:45Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > He’s always been like this. He’s playing a parody of a stock character, poorly I might add. Yeah, I know enough about them to know they are either playing one, or are the equivalent of a walking one. ---
**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1299 "2019-01-08T07:53:12Z")
> [@Huey Freeman](#): > > Why are white folks so autistic? Here’s a better question: How is this not hate speech? > [@](#): > > No, seriously. Why is it that context, sarcasm, and empathy, and humor are completely lost on you motherfuckers? LOL! That’s rich coming from you. You hate white people. You hate black people who don’t think like you. You’re a misogynist. You hate autistic people for some messed up reason. You’re stuffed full of hate. You don’t get to lecture _anyone_ about empathy. And context? You don’t care about context. You just mine bigoted hate sites like The Root for anything that you can use to push your vendetta against white people, even if that means standing on the bodies of murdered children to do it. The ‘context’ is that you’re a truly shitty person, and everything you post should be read with that in mind. > [@](#): > > You see, for people of color, when a person claims to be victimized, we usually give them the benefit of the doubt. I’ve been following this thread. You’re a relentlessly nasty piece of work. I doubt you’ve ever given anyone the benefit of the doubt in your life. And what’s with this ‘we’ stuff? You’re not the Emperor of black people. You don’t get to speak for them. Stay in your lane. > [@](#): > > We aren’t like white people who treat each other and themselves like animals. WTF?! Again, _how_ is this not hate speech? Is this how we can talk about other races is it? P.S. Black men are 6% of the US population. They commit about 45% of the murders. The victims are nearly all other black men. But please, keep going on about how bad white folks treat each other :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Not to veer too off topic… Sorry. You veered too off topic. Moving on. > [@](#): > > Let’s give you an autism test. Read carefully, please. > > 1. The victims and witnesses of the shooting claim the shooter was white > 2. The police put out a sketch of a the shooter as white > 3. News organizations all over the country report that the shooter is white > 4. SDMB poster Huey links to one of news articles > 5. The police update the case to show that the driver is (not the shooter) is black > 6. This is taken as proof that Huey - not the news, not the police, not the victim - “fucked up” and should admit wrong. > > Can you figure out which doesn’t belong? Aww, was I mean to Huey? Didn’t I bend over far enough to give you the benefit of the doubt? Too bad. You reap what you sow. If you’re talking about a white person, or a black person you think is a ‘Coon’ or a ‘House Pocho’ then you come down on them like a ton of bricks. Judge not lest ye be judged, you racist cunt. Hit the bricks, troll. ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1300 "2019-01-08T08:29:44Z")
Calling adopted children “imported” is fucking disgusting, and doing it in an effort to attack their parent is beyond cowardly. I hate to break it to you \*\*Huey Freeman \*\* but you are exactly the same as those you profess to hate. An insular small minded ignorant bigot. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1301 "2019-01-08T14:10:43Z")
> **[Restaurant Manager Throws Chair at Black Customer](https://www.newsweek.com/restaurant-manager-throws-chair-black-customer-says-he-got-defensive-sight-1283266?amp=1)** > > The manager has been suspended from the Chicago restaurant after footage of him trying to explain his actions was shared on social media. This one is pretty clear cut. Restaurant manager throws a chair at someone admittedly purely, solely because they are black. “I’m not trying to be racist”. ---
**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1302 "2019-01-08T14:55:30Z")
> [@yendis](#): > > Calling adopted children “imported” is fucking disgusting, and doing it in an effort to attack their parent is beyond cowardly. > > I hate to break it to you \*\*Huey Freeman \*\* but you are exactly the same as those you profess to hate. An insular small minded ignorant bigot. When you profess hate and then cowardly hide behind your imported daughter to shield yourself against racism, I have a big problem with that. Because you will yourself blind, please let me let you know that racism is alive and well. Indeed, arch-racist white folks like Laura Ingraham, David French, and Milo Yiannopoulos deliberately adopt and/or marry people of color to deflect from their racism and to virtue signal to other white folks. White folks have been doing this maneuver since people of color were forcibly dragged onto this cold ass continent. Similar to Grand Dragon Shodan, Rachel Dolezal’s white family adopted children of color. The ostensible difference was that the Dolezal family allowed their grown-ass, 25 year old white son - Joshua - to sexually abuse their adopted children of color (6 yo). In an affadavit regarding these child-abuse claims, Joshua Dolezal’s claimed he “was turned on by the black body and was curious about black women sexually.” When the children of color spoke up, the white parents pulled a Kavanaugh and shielded their white son from prosecution by throwing their daughter under the bus. The fact that[he walks the earth and is not in jail](https://www.central.edu/faculty/joshua-dolezal/)is a testament to [power of whiteness](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/15/prosecutor-drops-sex-abuse-charges-against-joshua-dolezal-brother-of-rachel-dolezal/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.91f8d13fe5c5). Given Grand Dragon Shodan’s hatred for people of color and him mentioning pedophilia (I mean, \*why \*go \*there \*when we’re talking about your daughter?) are tell-tale signs that something is probably wrong. I’m concerned because I know how white folks treat the bodies of people of color: We are nothing to you monsters. Literally. We’re trash. To be thrown away, discarded, forgotten. And, frankly, if I personally knew the city where he lived, I’d point out his posts and alert the local authorities to perform a wellness check on the daughter. Grand Dragon Shodan should focus his remaining time on parenting and/or making amends with his daughter. This man has wasted 20 years of his life and time of crafting tens of thousands of posts to fighting against people of color, being a champion of whiteness, and a spewer of hate _on a message board that **no one will read**._ This is time that could have been spent with his loved ones. So, I’m going to point this shit out every fucking time that cross-burning shitstain posts something I don’t like. Period. I encourage you to ignore my posts and fuck off. Last post on this. Prefer to stay on topic - issues of people of color. If you want to start a new thread. Do so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=66)