# Living while black in America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/121 "2018-07-10T20:34:20Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Like waking them up and asking if they are OK?

If you don’t know the person, you don’t know if the person is dangerous or not. Letting the professionals ask those kind of questions is usually safer.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/122 "2018-07-10T20:36:33Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Why? Are they vandalizing stuff in their sleep? Sleep-arsoning? Snoring too loud? Black?

Maybe they are not a resident of that dorm. Maybe they plan on clipping a few wallets or backpacks after they finish their nap which is a very common strategy with the homeless who use our library facilities.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/123 "2018-07-10T21:19:49Z")

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I think we’ve established how you would handle this situation based on your experience at the library. This was not your library.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/124 "2018-07-10T21:28:33Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> The Cook County Forest Preserve officer is under investigation now, which is nice.
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> [Officer Under Investigation, Man Charged After Video Shows Woman Harassed Over Puerto Rico Shirt – NBC Chicago](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/puerto-rico-shirt-irizarry-video-viral-chicago-park-cook-county-487776211.html)
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> I didn’t realize that this was in Chicago at first and Caldwell Woods is just a short hop from my house. It distresses me to see this where I live, and I know this area isn’t immune to racism, of course. I have a cop that’s very close to my family who’s racist.

What a fucking disgrace. And that cop just standing there. A fucking disgrace. In Florida she coulda stood her fucking ground, not that she should have, or should have needed to. Fucking sick.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/125 "2018-07-10T21:37:33Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I think we’ve established how you would handle this situation based on your experience at the library. This was not your library.

It’s a university campus. Campus security issues at mainstream universities (i.e., not military institutions or monastic houses) are not the different anywhere you go in United States. Quite frankly, the negative attitudes about taking basic security precautions that many people on this thread have expressed are the reasons campus crime is so high. Most dorms have good secure locks, but idiots let strangers into the buildings. Or they don’t bother to lock their doors. Or they leave expensive electronics in common areas, Or they don’t pay any attention to what people around them are doing until it’s too late. Everyone likes to talk about politeness, allowing your neighbors to get raped, robbed, or murdered when a few basic precautions cautions could have prevented it is highly impolite. If you see something, you should say something.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/126 "2018-07-10T21:37:52Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Are we basing the claim of “white” on her skin appearance or assumptions about her heritage? Not sure, it’s confusing to me. What is the verdict from the race realist community?

We got it. Apparently you don’t like black folks. You made your point, now go away. You fucking make me sick, and I have a strong stomach.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/127 "2018-07-10T21:41:11Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Point of order: that’s true of every nation. And don’t forget that the native American tribes warred against each other.

What about Iceland?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/128 "2018-07-10T21:52:29Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> What about Iceland?

Point, Ulfreida. 15-0

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/129 "2018-07-10T22:05:45Z")

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That cop who did nothing is a worthless bastard who needs to be fired, the cop that did this, is a monster who deserves some prison time:

[https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/07/09/us/texas-police-pulls-gun-on-kids-trnd/index.html](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/07/09/us/texas-police-pulls-gun-on-kids-trnd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/130 "2018-07-10T22:08:11Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Usually when someone is sleeping, it implies they are directing others not to make a lot of noise around them. The common rooms in dorms are basically designed for socializing, working on group projects, team planning sessions, etc. They are designated places where people can get rather loud. This is ideally to facilitate the dorm bedrooms being quieter places where people can sleep or study in a calmer atmosphere.

You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, as usual.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/131 "2018-07-10T22:14:00Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Are we basing the claim of “white” on her skin appearance or assumptions about her heritage? Not sure, it’s confusing to me. What is the verdict from the race realist community?

Please be quiet, Large Knucklehead.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/132 "2018-07-10T22:17:22Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> This incident happened at 1:30 a.m. at night not a time when most people are just nodding off accidentally as they go about their regular day. Someone sleeping in a dorms common area at 1:30 a.m. is the kind of them that merits a cursory check.

Oh, it was 1:30am, so prime time for someone to be monopolizing a shared space by dozing off while studying.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/133 "2018-07-10T22:20:01Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> We got it. Apparently you don’t like black folks. You made your point, now go away. You fucking make me sick, and I have a strong stomach.

He’s just one of our resident floundering Dunning-Kruger idjits who’s convinced he’ll land the mother of all GOTCHAs one day, meanwhile exhibiting all the dexterity and elegance of Sideshow Bob in a field of rakes.

**D’Anconia** is another subprime example of this phenomenon. I assume **octopus** is still whiffing on a regular basis too, although I couldn’t say for sure.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/134 "2018-07-10T22:24:52Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> Oh, it was 1:30am, so prime time for someone to be monopolizing a shared space by dozing off while studying.

Hey, they could be taking a nap to rest up for their robbery and murder spree.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/135 "2018-07-10T22:32:12Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> I don’t intend on receiving an answer in any shape or form.

I notice you don’t have a sig file, and recommend you use this quote.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/136 "2018-07-10T22:42:26Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I notice you don’t have a sig file, and recommend you use this quote.

Technically, he will receive a number of answers. He just won’t pay attention to them.

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/137 "2018-07-10T22:46:38Z")

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One positive thing to take away from these stories is that racists these days seem to mostly call the cops rather than acting on their own, it suggests they’re either wusses or wary about outing their opinions to the general public.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/138 "2018-07-10T22:49:11Z")

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Or it could be that, due to numerous stories about cops’ interactions with black people, white people call the cops hoping they show up and give a beat down to the black people.

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/139 "2018-07-10T22:54:29Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Or it could be that, due to numerous stories about cops’ interactions with black people, white people call the cops hoping they show up and give a beat down to the black people.

Well that’s not positive at all.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/140 "2018-07-10T22:55:09Z")

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> [@Delicious](#):
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> Well that’s not positive at all.

Well, I said “OR”

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