# Living while black in America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1383 "2019-01-31T17:27:35Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> Lol who carries a noose around for just such occasions?

> [@pool](#):
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> Hey it’s ok pull the anal beads out of your ass there buddy. 🙂

> [@pool](#):
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> I wasn’t claiming the story was fake I’ve only glossed over the vague details in the story, I’m sure he was attacked, I was more thinking out loud about whether it was premeditated or not. Did they have any relation to the guy, did they just happen to see him, or did they set out to attack a black guy and left the house with rope and acid and he was the unlucky first guy they came across. Any other reading of what I said is just your own biases coming through.

No comment needed.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1384 "2019-01-31T17:36:05Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> No comment needed.

And yet you still can’t control yourself.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1385 "2019-02-01T01:39:05Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Or you could wait for the results of the investigation. Plenty of time then, if you’re right, to jump up and down with glee.

irony

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1386 "2019-02-01T04:46:36Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> irony

A news story is reported by a reputable news organization about an alleged attack that is being investigated by the authorities, meaning that it passed a first-level scrutiny by experienced investigators. An attack of a kind that is far from unknown against black people in this country. I report this here as symptomatic of living while black in America. You assume the attack was faked, and therefore irrelevant to the lives of black people in America, without any evidence at all.

Can you see the difference?

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1387 "2019-02-01T15:32:08Z")

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Again, some in the media were noting Trump’s silence on this actor. Then April Ryan asked him yesterday and he replied, “That I can tell you is horrible. It doesn’t get worse.”

Why? Why prod politicians for a response when we don’t know if there were any harmed victim in this or not? It’s understandable that some of the rhetoric of Trump and his ilk is seen as irresponsible and incendiary. Whatever recourse is out there, this is letting the tail wag the dog. You don’t discover parts of narratives by shaping sequences of events into them hours after they happen. For those politicians who did volunteer their lamentation over it, this is the 24/7 news. Waiting won’t make it more of an emergency.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1388 "2019-02-01T15:47:05Z")

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But Trump is correct - it is horrible. If it happened the way the actor said it did, it’s horrible, if it is a hoax, it’s horrible, if the actor just forgot his safe word, it’s horrible.

What might make it a little less horrible is catching and punishing whoever is responsible.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1389 "2019-02-01T20:26:35Z")

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A black woman was pulled over in Detroit for driving with expired tags, and her car was towed. Now, the cops did offer to drive her home, but she declined, since she was only a block from her house. As she walked home in the freezing temperatures, the cops followed behind her, recording her walk, and posted it online with the mocking captions, “walk of shame”, “bye felicia", “What black girl magic looks like,” and “celebrating Black History Month.”  
[White Officer Demoted for Posting ‘Racist’ Videos Mocking Black Woman Walking Home](https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-officer-demoted-for-posting-racist-videos-mocking-black-woman-walking-home)?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1390 "2019-02-01T20:33:17Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A black woman was pulled over in Detroit for driving with expired tags, and her car was towed. Now, the cops did offer to drive her home, but she declined, since she was only a block from her house. As she walked home in the freezing temperatures, the cops followed behind her, recording her walk, and posted it online with the mocking captions, “walk of shame”, “bye felicia", “What black girl magic looks like,” and “celebrating Black History Month.”  
> [White Officer Demoted for Posting ‘Racist’ Videos Mocking Black Woman Walking Home](https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-officer-demoted-for-posting-racist-videos-mocking-black-woman-walking-home)?

I really don’t understand how the cops think this is a great idea. And even if they don’t realize how bad it is, why would they post it on social media? Do they really think they aren’t going to get caught? I just don’t understand. It has to be some sort of brain damage.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1391 "2019-02-01T21:16:01Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I really don’t understand how the cops think this is a great idea. And even if they don’t realize how bad it is, why would they post it on social media? Do they really think they aren’t going to get caught? I just don’t understand. It has to be some sort of brain damage.

Racism is a form of brain damage. 🙂

But, people go with what they know. They laughed, their partner laughed, when they got back to the station, their colleagues laughed.

When all your peers are laughing, it is hard to realize that your peers do not make up the entirety of the world. It is easy to take a position that only a triggered libtard snowflake would take offense to these actions, and, along with wanting to make like minded people laugh, they wanted to make their political enemies cry.

They forgot that the vast majority of people are mostly decent, and, while they may not seek out racism to root out, if it is shoved in their face like this, they will react, and usually not in the racists favor.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1392 "2019-02-01T21:42:18Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> [Stenographers Need to Understand Black English - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/stenographers-need-understand-black-english/581671/)
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> Less personal than most examples here, but talking about a persistent issue in criminal justice: stenographers who struggle to understand AAVE or even just accents comment in black communities.

Even I know what finna means. It’s a shortening of fixing to.

That said, I’m not sure it’s the court’s problem that bad English is spoken.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1393 "2019-02-01T22:09:32Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Even I know what finna means. It’s a shortening of fixing to.
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> That said, I’m not sure it’s the court’s problem that bad English is spoken.

You think that people should be denied their rights because of a misunderstanding?

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1394 "2019-02-01T23:20:58Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I really don’t understand how the cops think this is a great idea. And even if they don’t realize how bad it is, why would they post it on social media? Do they really think they aren’t going to get caught? I just don’t understand. It has to be some sort of brain damage.

Yeah, what they did just seems utterly insane to me. Don’t make no sense!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1395 "2019-02-01T23:32:53Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You think that people should be denied their rights because of a misunderstanding?

Lawyer, dog or lawyer dog? That’s why I’m generous with my commas.

Concerning rights? No, I don’t think rights should be denied. I actually think wanting a lawyer should be an explicit and informed opt out not an opt in. I don’t trust the Man.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1396 "2019-02-02T04:29:17Z")

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Portland police sergeants tells roll call to just shoot homeless people if they’re black.  
[Portland Police Sergeant To Precinct: If A Homeless Person Is Black, Just Shoot Them | HuffPost Voices](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/portland-police-gregg-lewis-racist-remark_us_5c5465cae4b0bdf0e7dacc0a)?

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1397 "2019-02-15T02:45:15Z")

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AL Sharpton picked another winner with Smollet: [Sources: Police investigating whether Jussie Smollett staged attack with help of others, allegedly being written off 'Empire' - ABC7 Chicago](https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others-allegedly-being-written-off-empire/5138497/)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1398 "2019-02-15T03:43:01Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> AL Sharpton picked another winner with Smollet: [Sources: Police investigating whether Jussie Smollett staged attack with help of others, allegedly being written off 'Empire' - ABC7 Chicago](https://abc7chicago.com/sources-smollett-staged-attack-with-help-of-others-allegedly-being-written-off-empire/5138497/)

What are you babbling about?

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1399 "2019-02-15T04:56:50Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> What are you babbling about?

Sharpton, who notoriously pushed the Tawana Brawley story including accusing an innocent man of rape:

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> In 1998, a jury found that the three advisers, including the Rev. Al Sharpton, had defamed Mr. Pagones and awarded him $345,000 in damages from them.

More recently he jumped into the Jussie Smollet case which looks like it was not as reported by the victim.

I never understood why Al Sharpton was allowed back on the public stage after that and even is a contributor and occasional host on MSNBC.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1400 "2019-02-15T05:31:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> More recently he jumped into the Jussie Smollet case which looks like it was not as reported by the victim.

Maybe you wanna wait until the investigation turns something up before assuming guilt? I mean, seriously, hypocrite much?

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1401 "2019-02-15T06:21:02Z")

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An extended mention of Sharpton is a distraction, really. The focus should be on what the Chicago PD find and more than likely whether criminal charges are recommended against Smollett and his associates. Most people are wise to what Sharpton is after. It’s possible the Rick Kitchen’s and andros’s of the world who share baking recipes in my threads think he is trying to help, but most people know.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1402 "2019-02-15T12:56:12Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> I never understood why Al Sharpton was allowed back on the public stage after that and even is a contributor and occasional host on MSNBC.

Presumably MSNBC feel there’s an audience for him. It ain’t me, but I assume someone likes him, much in the same way that Oliver North got a FoxNews show.

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