# Living while black in America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1783 "2020-05-29T23:37:20Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Yes, I know it’s the New York Post, but it seems credible thus far. The article also mentioned that she became enraged at him when he said he was going to vote for Obama. Clearly not a racist. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1784 "2020-05-30T01:41:54Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The article also mentioned that she became enraged at him when he said he was going to vote for Obama. > > Clearly not a racist. LOL, good catch. So let’s see: - Nutjob? Check - Witch? Check - Racist? Check Yeah, she belongs on an island where the only being she can threaten to call the cops on is the one she imagines seeing when she looks at a fucking volleyball. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1785 "2020-05-30T04:21:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > LOL, good catch. > > So let’s see: > > - Nutjob? Check > > - Witch? Check > > - Racist? Check > > Yeah, she belongs on an island where the only being she can threaten to call the cops on is the one she imagines seeing when she looks at a fucking volleyball. Scofflaw? Check Animal abuser? Check Stalker and sexual harasser? Check ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1786 "2020-05-30T13:47:56Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Scofflaw? Check > > Animal abuser? Check > > Stalker and sexual harasser? Check I’d completely overlooked the fact that she damn near hanged her own dog. Good catch. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1787 "2020-05-30T14:46:11Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’d completely overlooked the fact that she damn near hanged her own dog. Good catch. She’s so upset by the fact that she’s forced to leash her dog that she then proceeds to strangle it.:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1788 "2020-05-30T15:32:18Z")
She seems nice! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1789 "2020-05-30T19:06:00Z")
A message, on behalf of our nation’s Karens: “Her name is Amy! So start a new meme and give us a break.” ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1790 "2020-05-30T19:43:39Z")
Trevor Noah has an interesting take on what’s going on. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/v4amCfVbA_c/maxresdefault.jpg "George Floyd, Minneapolis Protests, Ahmaud Arbery & Amy Cooper | The Daily Social Distancing Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4amCfVbA_c) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1791 "2020-07-02T16:24:50Z")
White woman pulls gun on black woman and her daughter at a Chipotle, after they are not properly deferential (well, that’s my interpretation). [https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/02/michigan-woman-gun-video/?fbclid=IwAR2HI5Q-owah7Gm\_Tmcw-Yl54A0TZIr7x9QhhdJCmK\_zsOupFNHdKR3CTuE](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/02/michigan-woman-gun-video/?fbclid=IwAR2HI5Q-owah7Gm_Tmcw-Yl54A0TZIr7x9QhhdJCmK_zsOupFNHdKR3CTuE) Priceless quote: “White people aren’t racist… No one is racist.” And a contender for convoluted thought/sentence of the year: “I’m sorry if you had an incident that has made someone make you feel like that.” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1792 "2020-07-02T16:32:33Z")
Wow, so you can just pull a gun on someone for tapping your car now. Who knew? Wait, check that: if you’re white, you can pull a gun on a black person who tapped your car because you can legally assume that a black woman’s fingers are deadly weapons. 🤬 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1793 "2020-07-03T02:20:37Z")
The quite-possibly racist sheriff’s [statement](https://apnews.com/a9a76dcc1b4a3d011d9c8278158154cd) was way out of line IMO: > [@](#): > > Bouchard said people are “picking sides” and that threatening calls were made to the sheriff’s office dispatch center after the videos were posted online. > > “We don’t see sides. We see facts,” he said. “There’s a lot of tension in our society, a lot of tension among folks and people with each other. I would just say this, we are asking and expect our police — and rightfully so — to deescalate every situation they possibly can, and we should be doing that. But I would say that needs to happen with us individually in our own lives and situations, that we interact with each other and deescalate those moments.” Only 1 side in this conflict had a responsibility to deescalate, IMO, and she eventually did get in her truck and drive away. But she should have done it much, much sooner than that. Asking Miss Hill to deescalate is asking her to capitulate to being ill-treated and IMO she has no responsibility to accept that. Fuck that. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1794 "2020-07-03T02:34:00Z")
Seems like the usual line of bullshit. If a white person feels scared by a black person, it’s the black person’s fault; they are presumed to be doing something that justifies the fear. And if the black person is doing something scary then the white person is justified in defending themselves. We need to start saying that a lot of times, it’s the white person who has a problem. The fear they are feeling isn’t being caused by the black person; it’s being caused by their own irrationality and prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1795 "2020-07-03T15:46:49Z")
This is what it is meant by criminalizing ‘blackness.’ It’s not just white police, but also the deputization of white people to carry concealed weapons and react to the slightest of provocations with the threat of deadly force because they can merely perceive a threat and the law might let them get away with it. This is also what I have referred to in the past when I’ve pointed out that white nationalism is often cloaked as second amendment freedom. The firearm is not just an inanimate object and firearms rights aren’t just about individual liberty; they are a tool of white racist oppression. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1796 "2020-07-04T16:57:36Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The firearm is not just an inanimate object and firearms rights aren’t just about individual liberty; they are a tool of white racist oppression. If a large group of black people protested on the steps of a state legislature, openly carrying AR-47’s in support of the 2nd amendment and dressed in battle gear… Does anyone think that this would be accepted? How about if they were waving “black power” flags? ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1797 "2020-07-04T17:07:53Z")
You mean, like this? [https://images.app.goo.gl/o1bdjmj17PMrF3Fg6](https://images.app.goo.gl/o1bdjmj17PMrF3Fg6) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1798 "2020-07-04T19:27:23Z")
How to turn right wing 2nd amendment supporters into gun control advocates in one easy step. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1799 "2020-07-04T19:37:11Z")
Throughout history, American gun laws have been concerned, in one way or another, with making sure that white citizens and white authorities have the ability to reinforce the racist socioeconomic hierarchy upon blacks. Simultaneously, firearms have historically been a tool and symbol of white genocide committed against indigenous peoples of North America, imposing white laws and white economic systems across the entire land mass. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1800 "2020-07-06T06:33:38Z")
Modern whites are worse off than blacks. Blacks should stop whining. They don’t have a monopoly on poverty or suffering. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1801 "2020-07-06T12:59:50Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Modern whites are worse off than blacks. A perfect example of " **When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.**" ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1802 "2020-07-06T13:06:38Z")
That seems so over the top to be Poe-ish. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=91)