# Living while black in America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611 "2018-07-09T21:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 96
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1903 "2021-01-11T22:58:28Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1904 "2021-05-27T16:10:58Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [White woman (Amy Cooper) apologizes after calling police on a black man and saying “There’s an African American man threatening my life.”](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/us/central-park-video-dog-video-african-american-trnd/index.html) > > Watch the video, y’all. This incident happened a year ago and she was subsequently fired from her job, but yesterday: > **[Amy Cooper sues ex-employer for racial discrimination after viral Central...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/amy-cooper-sues-employer-racial-discrimination-viral-central/story?id=77923805)** > > Amy Cooper, the white woman who called 911 over an encounter with a Black man in Central Park last year, has sued her former employer for alleged racial discrimination. It’s strange she would sue now. Here is a July statement from the birdwatcher: > **[Opinion | Christian Cooper: Why I have chosen not to aid the investigation of...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/christian-cooper-why-i-am-declining-to-be-involved-in-amy-coopers-prosecution/2020/07/14/1ba3a920-c5d4-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html)** > > Let the DA do his job. I must err on the side of compassion. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1905 "2021-05-27T16:15:55Z")
I assume she has realized how hard it is to find a job with those Google results. Hell, one of my classmates went from high flyer on Wall Street to unemployable for nearly 20 years because googling his name shows that he blew the whistle on his boss and got him sent to prison. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1906 "2021-05-27T18:49:04Z")
Well if the U.S. were only a small fraction of how racist the BLM movement believes, then there still should be a huge number of employers who would have no problems hiring her. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1907 "2021-05-27T18:59:39Z")
Not big employers who have to worry about the backlash. The vast majority of Back-the-Blue/Comply-or-Die loons I am personally acquainted with are small businessmen, real estate agents, car dealers, blue collar workers, non-physician medical practitioners (dentists, physical therapists, chiropractors) etc. Not captains of industry and finance. Well, captains of boats not ships. She could get a job at some three person financial planning firm. Maybe specialize in Karen’s. But big financial firms aren’t going to want the grief, even if an individual hiring manager is sympathetic. Heck even if the CEO is sympathetic. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1908 "2021-05-27T23:28:34Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > I assume she has realized how hard it is to find a job with those Google results. And the lawsuit will really help those odds. If she were poison then, now she’s (damn, no clever metaphors here). ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1909 "2021-05-27T23:43:46Z")
I think she’s hoping that the company will pay her a few hundred grand to go away. I don’t think they can afford to do that publicly either. And if they have a confidential settlement that would be explosive if leaked. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1910 "2021-05-28T10:54:33Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > I think she’s hoping that the company will pay her a few hundred grand to go away. This. Having worked in HR for years, it seems there is a cottage industry of nuisance lawsuits for “illegal” firing, with a sprinkle of discrimination if possible. Plaintiffs know that the companies will settle for modest amounts rather than fight it. But “a few hundred grand”? Not likely. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1911 "2021-05-28T11:21:42Z")
That’s funny, I worked in Legal Finance in a large company (50k + employees) for years (well 1.5 years). Most of the claims we settled seemed very meritorious. We may not have lost in court because the only potential corroborating witnesses were other employees who were intimidated into not testifying, but I don’t remember any claims that were totally groundless, both legally and factually. There may have been some that never made it into discussions that I was involved in (Finance only tracked cases where significant amounts were at stake) Most of these cases were wrongful dismissal cases where either sexual or racial discrimination was being alleged. There was often a mad scramble on the business side (not legal) to destroy materials before the dreaded “preserve records” memo could be issued by Legal. HR seemed to be at cross purposes with Legal a lot and thought their #1 priority was “protect the company” but they often did it in a way that made the legal exposure worse and put the lawyers in a tight spot. We had a case where four employees were proven by video evidence to have perjured themselves (in depositions) to protect a manager who had relentlessly sexually harassed a coworker. They were just terrified of losing their jobs if they told the truth. Something that could have been settled for $50k blew up into a $600k settlement that took three years, but only because the plaintiff had a lawyer who wouldn’t give up. This was over 20 years ago so video was not ubiquitous and $500k was real money. The video didn’t show the actual harassment, but it did show that four other employees who swore they were not in the office at the time actually were there. In an all too typical outcome, the four employees were fired and the ass-grabbing manager they lied to protect us still there 20+ years later. “It’s not the crime, it’s the cover up” is pretty much the life of a corporate Employment Law department. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1912 "2021-08-07T10:32:51Z")
Ah, a fun update [right here](https://news.yahoo.com/white-woman-viral-video-says-155900708.html), in which the poor, pitiful, put upon fraidy white woman says, and I quote: > I don’t know that as a woman alone in a park that I had another option. That would be no other option than to call the police. Now the same article reports that she completed some psychoeducation and therapy sessions and that’s why the charges against her were dropped. Reading the entire article, it seems to me that she didn’t learn jack in those sessions and should have those charges reinstated. But, hey, what do I know? I’m not a lying bigot. You do you, Amy. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1913 "2021-08-07T12:32:06Z")
> **[Cops Pulled Their Guns on a Black Realtor Showing a Home to Black Clients](https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbwyv/black-realtor-called-911-cops-guns-drawn)** > > Police demanded the realtor, his client, and the client’s 15-year-old son come out of the house in single file with their hands up. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1914 "2021-09-05T16:08:02Z")
Here’s a story appropriate for this thread. (Interesting side note: the leading Republican candidate to replace Gavin Newsom as governor of California if the recall succeeds, who himself happens to be black, has said that these stories are “lies, all lies, lies lies lies.”) > **[Curtis Flowers Sues The DA Who Put Him On Trial 6 Times](https://www.npr.org/2021/09/03/1034198690/curtis-flowers-mississippi-lawsuit-prosecutor-da-freed-prisoner)** > > The Mississippi man, who was freed in 2019 after nearly 23 years in prison, sues the district attorney who prosecuted him six times in the killings of four people at a small-town furniture store. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1915 "2021-09-06T21:20:15Z")
> **[Ohio man arrested days after confronting NBC News' Shaquille Brewster on live...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-man-arrested-days-after-confronting-nbc-news-shaquille-brewster-n1278399)** > > Benjamin Eugene Dagley, 54, was picked up by marshals in Dayton, following the incident in Gulfport, Mississippi, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1916 "2021-09-06T22:16:33Z")
“task force” (three mentions): Did this s\*\*t-head remember to remove his OnStar? No, its still active Ok, go to that parking lot and wait for him ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1917 "2021-09-06T22:31:00Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Here’s a story appropriate for this thread. (Interesting side note: the leading Republican candidate to replace Gavin Newsom as governor of California if the recall succeeds, who himself happens to be black, has said that these stories are “lies, all lies, lies lies lies.”) Elder also says that the descendants of slave owners should have been compensated for their slaves having been freed. > **[Larry Elder says slave owners 'owed money' because 'property' was stolen](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16066374/larry-elder-reparations-slave-owners-candace-owens-show/)** > > RADIO host Larry Elder has insisted the descendants of slave owners are “owed money” because their ”property” was taken from them at the end of the Civil War.  The 69-year-old conservative aut… ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1918 "2021-09-06T23:19:52Z")
Holy crap, what a regressive, opportunistic jerk. He’s spamming my email every single day (and presumably lots of other Californians) so he can pop his little self into the governor’s chair in case the recall works, with a very small percentage of the vote. Gotta give him credit for snatching an opportunity that was under his nose, because I’m sure he knows that there is no way he would win any normal statewide election. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611/1919 "2021-09-07T05:05:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > Here’s a story appropriate for this thread. (Interesting side note: the leading Republican candidate to replace Gavin Newsom as governor of California if the recall succeeds, who himself happens to be black, has said that these stories are “lies, all lies, lies lies lies.”) > > Elder also says that the descendants of slave owners should have been compensated for their slaves having been freed. > [Larry Elder says slave owners 'owed money' because 'property' was stolen](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16066374/larry-elder-reparations-slave-owners-candace-owens-show/) The idiot\* doesn’t seem to know what “reparations” means. He appears to _want_ it to mean “restitution” (which is what would be called for _IFF_ the Thirteenth Amendment and Emancipation Proclamation were to be successfully characterized as “theft”). \*but I’m being redundant. He _is_ a Republican, after all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/living-while-black-in-america/817611.md?page=95)